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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:16:00 -
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Hi there, i like to abandon highsec and do missions in 0.0 and lowsec.
It's ok when i get killed at gates and stations, but i'm looking for a little security during the mission itself, hints on how to avoid being probed, since an attack of a pirate doesn't give me a fair chance to fight back, with all that npcs shooting at me.
1) From what i heard, pirates cannot probe me, using npc wrecks or cans as targets, is this correct ?
2) I also heard that the higher my sensor strenght, the lower the chance that they find me.
a) Is this correct ?
b) If so, does this mean that a Golem (SS 14) is much easier to find than a Raven (SS 22) ?
c) Will it help alot if i fit modules that increase my sensor strength, or isn't that worth the slots in terms of security gain ?
3) I've been told that using drones incease the chance to be probed out, is this true ?
4) How can i scan for probes ? 360¦ ship scanner for max distance ? Do i have to change settings or does this work with default settings, and do i need to train any additional skills to see probes ?
5) Are there any other thigs to decrease the chance of being probed ?
Any answers on one ore more questions are highly appreciated, expecially from people who have some experience with probing.
Thanks in advance.
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Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
Red Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:27:00 -
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1. Correct.
2. I am unable to confirm or deny. Sensor strength does come into play with ECM though.
3. Deadspace dampens all signals by 1/2....except for the bloody drones.
4. Scan 360 degrees at max distance, Don't use overview settings. (Basically, see everything)
5. Get the flock out of the high-traffic systems. Motsu, Dodixie and other popular systems draw in the predators and leeches. Get away from the crowds (and masses of easy targets) and you also shake off the majority of the probers.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:29:00 -
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1) Yes.
2a) Yes.
2b) Somewhat.
2c) I'd say it isn't worth the slots.
3) Yes, they can scan for you, and simultaneously scan for the drones. They only need to pick up a single target for the warp in.
4) Turn off overview settings and the probes will show on scan. Beware, some probes can actually scan you out from outside scan range (the strength makes this difficult though).
5) Signature radius factors into it. Generally, if someone's probing for you, it's not a question of whether they will succeed, but how long until they do. The key then is being aware of their attempts so you can evacuate before they find you.
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Miniturret
Amarr
Rum Runners Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:31:00 -
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1) you can not probe for wrecks or cans, you are correct in this
2) not entire certain so i will not attempt to answer this
3) Drones make finding ships a lot easier
4) make sure in overview settings you have probes selected, when you see someone enter local spam the scan button at max distance on directional 360 - if probe is seen, warp out
5a) things to decrease being probed out not really
BUT
A) Don't fly something you can't afford to lose.
B) Stay combat aligned towards something whatever it might be and preferably at full speed so that you almost insta-warp.
C) Don't fly something you can't afford to lose.
D) Don't smack talk if you get away.
E) Learn the residents of the area and who is who.
F) Don't fly something you can't afford to lose.
G) Should you lose something please do not whine about the lose as it was a known risk.
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Tari Telrunya
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:37:00 -
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1) You can't probe down cans but you can probe down wrecks so potentially they could probe you down from them, however wrecks no longer show up on the directional scanner so this makes things a bit harder for them.
2) AFAIK the sensor strength of your ship has nothing at all to do with your chance of being probed out (that's to do with ECM resistance).
3) Using drones will 'potentially' increase you chance of being probed out as I 'think' they have an unusually high signal strength. Also they show up on a directional scan and will give away the fact you are in combat.
4) You can pickup probes on a directional scan but you have to have 'use overview settings' unchecked, which is kinna a pain as you then get all sorts of stuff like moons etc.
5) I'd say watch local, hammer that directional scan and check for probes constantly. If you see probes the a) be afraid and b) set your 360 scan to a shorter range and watch for ships. If you see a covert ship on scanner then be wary. Make sure your aligned for a warpout (preferably a safe spot) at all times. Keep well away from your warp in (in dead space they will have to go through the mission gates just like you). Kill all scrambling frigates first as a priority.
and finally be overly cautious, better to lose a minute warping out and back in than losing your ship.
Having said that, personally I wouldn't do missions in low sec and only in 'safe' 0.0 (where your alliance mates are close by). It all comes down to risk vs. reward, and frankly low sec missions arn't worth it as if (or should I say when) you lose one ship then all the 'extra' payment you earned will be lost.
As an aside, if you are really interested in how someone can/would probe you down then try it for yourself! Try probing down a corp mate or whatever, you'll soon get up to speed on how quickly it can be done and what to look for etc.
 Originally by: Tarminic
CCP has a fairly large team of programmers and said personnel aren't amorphous blobs of "I MAEK CODE!"
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Tari Telrunya
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Miniturret
1) you can not probe for wrecks or cans, you are correct in this
Since when? How do salvage thief's work then?
Originally by: Tarminic
CCP has a fairly large team of programmers and said personnel aren't amorphous blobs of "I MAEK CODE!"
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Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Snake Assault
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:41:00 -
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Regarding 2)
Quote:
Target Signal Size = Target Signature Radius / Target Sensor Strength
From the ship probing guide.
The lower your signal size, the harder it is to get probed out.
Furthermore, avoid using drones. Most people will probe for them simultaneously, giving them a far better chance of finding you.
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Oldin Kinrod
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tari Telrunya
Since when? How do salvage thief's work then?
They scan for Ships and Probes. And the drones make it really easy due to their MWDs going 100% of the time.
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cybergurl
Caldari
Rubra Libertas Militia
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:57:00 -
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I have probed out a mission runner before when searching for drones, it can be done
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Tari Telrunya
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:08:00 -
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Hurm, well you learn something new....
But I'm sure you used to be able to, or at least there was a scan for wrecks category or something like that...
Or am I going mad 
Originally by: Tarminic
CCP has a fairly large team of programmers and said personnel aren't amorphous blobs of "I MAEK CODE!"
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TheJacko
Gallente
Quam Singulari
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:18:00 -
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im a prober myself and this is my answers to your questions
1) correct
2)
a) correct
b) correct
c) its up to you if you wish to nerf your tank but it will benifit you more unless you are witin 450.000.000 of the said prober
3) true
4) open scanner waxck it to 360 and tick the little ticky box ^^
5) DONT DO MISSIONS xD
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Regarding 2)
Quote:
Target Signal Size = Target Signature Radius / Target Sensor Strength
From the ship probing guide.
The lower your signal size, the harder it is to get probed out.
Has this ever been confirmed by CCP? If not, is there conclusive/hard evidence this is correct?
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Gaven Blands
Caldari
interimo
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:34:00 -
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Get out of Dodixie / Motsu
90% less chance of getting mission probed out per jump from a mission hub.
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Shanur
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:34:00 -
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About the only way to counter a prober is to warp to a safespot and cloak until he grows bored and leaves. Because areas around good agents are always crowded, one of your main methods of assuring safety in low sec - treating everyone in local as an enemy, isn't viable so you may have to settle for waiting until you can be sure the probe expired or everyone you don't know/don't trust has left the system.
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Jade O'aka
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Blands
Get out of Dodixie / Motsu
90% less chance of getting mission probed out per jump from a mission hub.
Originally by: OP
Hi there, i like to abandon highsec and do missions in 0.0 and lowsec.
I think that's what he is trying to do... 
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Winters Chill
Amarr
Legio Victrix
New Eden Federation.
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:27:00 -
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drones are much easier to scan down than ships...thats all Im saying at this point
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:32:00 -
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Your sensor strength affects directly the chance of probing you.
That is why before havein their signatures increased, motherships were nearly undetectable.
Fit an ECCM and don deploy drones and you will be very hard to find.
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