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Bob Arko Geddonites	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:22:00 - [31] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Horeta good tank, but not realistic: without mwd, and your cap dry to fast by using hardeners... and you still need to run bubble... A HICtor is one of the few ships where there's a legitimate argument for not fitting a MWD... and regarding capacitor - that was my point. The Devoter mounts a reasonably equivalent tank, and does so without cap problems. -Liang I really don't know where did you get it from, but heavy interdictors DO need an mwd too.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:36:00 - [32] Edited by: Grimpak on 22/02/2008 09:37:29 Originally by: Bob Arko Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Horeta good tank, but not realistic: without mwd, and your cap dry to fast by using hardeners... and you still need to run bubble... A HICtor is one of the few ships where there's a legitimate argument for not fitting a MWD... and regarding capacitor - that was my point. The Devoter mounts a reasonably equivalent tank, and does so without cap problems. -Liang I really don't know where did you get it from, but heavy interdictors DO need an mwd too. until you activate the WDFG (unless scripted), and see the mwd become pretty much useless. also the HIC's are very, very fat. fitting the mwd there is only for mobility purposes and not chasing purposes. with the WDFG scripted however things are a bit different. Originally by: James Lyrus Originally by: Grimpak my view for the HIC's. broadsword and the onyx are very equal, in terms you can get better resists out of the onyx and better shield regen out of the broadsword. Actually, that's a bit of a misconception. Both Broadsword and Onyx have exactly the same slot layout. Both Broadsword and Onyx get: 25% boost to all resists, 25% to one resist, 50% to another resist. The difference is that Broadsword has the 50% on EM, 25% on thermal. The Onyx is 50% on thermal, 25% on kinetic. But the only difference is the layout of those resists, and the fact that the Onyx is left with a 'low' resist of 25% EM, and the Broadsword is left with a low of 55% kinetic. In general I think I prefer a well rounded resists profile, than have one where you need two colour specific hardeners to get it up to th same level. That's of course, at the same time as the Broadsword having lower signature, and go faster too. The Onyx does have more base shield though. But shrug. For most purposes, I'd consider Broadsword to be superior, but since I've realised that the Onyx actually has a truly insane quantity of CPU, and can thus fit a probe launcher, I'm less bothered. ah but they are still very equal. one can say that the only striking difference between both is the weapons, otherwise both are nearly equal. --- Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Wardeneo Gallente BLL Wise Guys Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:54:00 - [33] WOOT WOOT my post got bigger ^^ lol wardeneo If brute force doesn't work..... your not using enough :)
Cashflow Broker	Posted - 2008.02.22 11:04:00 - [34] So....I am getting a phobos soon. How should I fit it then? with a mwd II or an ab II? (I'm confused )
Tok Nar	Posted - 2008.02.23 11:58:00 - [35] I fly both the Onyx and the Devoter. I understand the Broadsword is roughly equivalent to the Onyx, perhaps slightly better. In any case, a devoter with full tank and cap boosters will hold it's tank for a long, long time. A few weeks ago mine managed to tank the fighters from two carriers and well, there were 6 other people on the killmail. It lasted for a few minutes which I think is relatively impressive for a cruiser sized ship. That said, Onyx/Broadsword passive tanks are a bit safer. I think I'd prefer to fly the devoter if given the choice since 3/4 LSE tend to boost sig rather heavily. Btw, I also always use an MWD on all hdictors so the tank coudl be slightly improved on both (cap recharger on dev, more tank on onyx).
Bob Arko Geddonites	Posted - 2008.02.23 17:03:00 - [36] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 22/02/2008 09:37:29 Originally by: Bob Arko Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Horeta good tank, but not realistic: without mwd, and your cap dry to fast by using hardeners... and you still need to run bubble... A HICtor is one of the few ships where there's a legitimate argument for not fitting a MWD... and regarding capacitor - that was my point. The Devoter mounts a reasonably equivalent tank, and does so without cap problems. -Liang I really don't know where did you get it from, but heavy interdictors DO need an mwd too. until you activate the WDFG (unless scripted), and see the mwd become pretty much useless. also the HIC's are very, very fat. fitting the mwd there is only for mobility purposes and not chasing purposes. with the WDFG scripted however things are a bit different. It doesn't matter. There is simply so many situations when you need to burn FAST to get in range (gate, ship, out of bubble ect ect) that is plain stupid to not fit an MWD unless you know for sure you will be using it stationary only.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.23 17:17:00 - [37] Originally by: Bob Arko It doesn't matter. There is simply so many situations when you need to burn FAST to get in range (gate, ship, out of bubble ect ect) that is plain stupid to not fit an MWD unless you know for sure you will be using it stationary only. well I did said Originally by: Grimpak also the HIC's are very, very fat. fitting the mwd there is only for mobility purposes and not chasing purposes. --- Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.23 18:37:00 - [38] If you want to play it "safe" and all around, you go for onyx/broadsword. For extreme scenarios, where you want to make sure your point stays on, go phobos (mwd, injector, sensorbooster, ECCM) For even more buffer or selfrepairing ability than the phobos, you'll go devoter whose high sigres can enable you to drop the sensorbooster the phobos would use (and keep the ECCM inplace). In those extreme scenarios (capital tackling), I'd say that a cap injector is almost a must as any supercap pilot will have at least 2 hvy neutralizers on you, effectively sucking you dry and might make you lose the point. Also, keep inmind when your EFT-izing your ships and comparing tanks to also try and "imagine" the extra dmg you get from having higher sig size when you fit shield extenders and sig size increasing rigs.
Bob Arko Geddonites	Posted - 2008.02.25 19:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Grimpak well I did said Originally by: Grimpak also the HIC's are very, very fat. fitting the mwd there is only for mobility purposes and not chasing purposes. I consider mobility is enough reason to fit mwd unless you fitting it for some very specific situation.
Spaja Saist Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.02.25 19:10:00 - [40] So does someone have a good Phobos setup?
Perfect Diamond	Posted - 2008.02.25 20:17:00 - [41] Buffer tank: Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor Explosive Hardener II Stasis Webifier II Sensor Booster II Medium Capacitor Booster II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Warp Disruption Field Generator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2008.02.25 22:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Bob Arko Originally by: Grimpak well I did said Originally by: Grimpak also the HIC's are very, very fat. fitting the mwd there is only for mobility purposes and not chasing purposes. I consider mobility is enough reason to fit mwd unless you fitting it for some very specific situation. never said it wasn't just said that mobility is the only reason for fitting a mwd in the HIC's. --- Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards
Kailin Balien	Posted - 2008.03.05 10:29:00 - [43] Hi Being still new I have missed some info regarding the HI . My only question is : does the WDFG, once scripted, work (or/and is tolerated by concord) in high sec (war target or else) as well as in low sec? Thank you in advance for your answers .
Kunming T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.03.05 11:17:00 - [44] Broadsword and Onyx, thats because passive shield tanking is overpowered or there is no equivalent for armor. Its not only the huge buffer its also the huge regen almost matching active tanks. Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Vardemis Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.03.05 11:28:00 - [45] Originally by: Perfect Diamond Buffer tank: Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor Explosive Hardener II Stasis Webifier II Sensor Booster II Medium Capacitor Booster II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Warp Disruption Field Generator I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I That is a horrible setup. You will have problems dealing damage to anything and your cap will still run out reasonably fast.

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