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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.23 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Randy West on 23/02/2008 18:32:18 tabernak
maldak
maldakv
I am sure more will come up
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.25 16:38:00 -
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Here is the awesome response I got from CCP
Hi,
Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support.
Rule number one in EVE: "Never trust anyone". Scamming is not supported but tolerated in EVE. I am sorry that i cannot help with this issue.
Best regards,
GM Hocopor EVE Online Customer Support
So hey they don't support it AND won't do anything if it happens to you.
So there you have it CCP looking out for the decent honest player everyday
Thanks all at CCP
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Velios
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.02.25 16:41:00 -
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It's all part of the game son. I could tell you some underhanded stories that I know about from my 5 years playing this game that would make you cry.
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.25 16:44:00 -
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It is all part of the game because those that run the game make a choice to do nothing about it.
I understand the concept but it does not really help the reputation of this game much.
I doubt I would cry from your stories, and I am sure you have some doosies. I would probably just get even more angry to hear of all the other crap that nothing was done about as well.
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Marsman37X
Amarr Alder Space Pioneers
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Posted - 2008.02.25 16:57:00 -
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Like the GM said, never trust anyone. There are game mechanics in place that, used correctly, can prevent you from being scammed.
However, I doubt your losses come anywhere near the infamous GHSC heist. And there have been numerous large scale thefts since that one too. So take it on the chin and learn from it. |
Jessamine
wncc1701ps home
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Posted - 2008.02.25 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Randy West
I understand the concept but it does not really help the reputation of this game much.
Yes it does. It keeps whiny 'give me what I want cuz I pay your salary' type idiots away from the game... Well obviously not because we have posts like this but I can only imagine they would be more...
This is about two steps away from 'But I flew back to where my ship exploded and it didn't give me the option to get back in the ship and fly off! WTF CCP!!!'
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.25 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jessamine
Originally by: Randy West
I understand the concept but it does not really help the reputation of this game much.
Yes it does. It keeps whiny 'give me what I want cuz I pay your salary' type idiots away from the game... Well obviously not because we have posts like this but I can only imagine they would be more...
This is about two steps away from 'But I flew back to where my ship exploded and it didn't give me the option to get back in the ship and fly off! WTF CCP!!!'
Your comparison and generalization are so far off I am sorry I commented on it
I asked a question I was refused, I don't see where I went on and on about it.
I am over it
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order. United Connection's
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Posted - 2008.02.25 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Marsman37X I doubt your losses come anywhere near the infamous GHSC heist.
Can you elaborate on this heist... who was involved and any information you might have?
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Jessamine
wncc1701ps home
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Posted - 2008.02.25 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jessamine on 25/02/2008 23:19:12
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Marsman37X I doubt your losses come anywhere near the infamous GHSC heist.
Can you elaborate on this heist... who was involved and any information you might have?
Second page when you google GHSC Heist...
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RichThugster
Gallente Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.02.25 23:26:00 -
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hope this helps you on your way
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Jebba IV
Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.26 00:33:00 -
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Welcome to eve
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Firestorm11
Caldari Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jebba IV Welcome to eve
this.
I ve been scammed by people quite a few times too. But hey, live and learn.
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P'Tang
Dissolution Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.26 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Randy West Here is the awesome response I got from CCP
Hi,
Thank you for contacting EVE Online customer support.
Rule number one in EVE: "Never trust anyone". Scamming is not supported but tolerated in EVE. I am sorry that i cannot help with this issue.
Best regards,
GM Hocopor EVE Online Customer Support
So hey they don't support it AND won't do anything if it happens to you.
So there you have it CCP looking out for the decent honest player everyday
Thanks all at CCP
Deal with it. Fools are easily parted with their ISK. If you'd actually read the EULA (you know, that big thing of text that you were given when you first logged on to EVE), you'd know that scamming is perfectly within the rules.
The great thing about CCP is that they don't babysit. There's actually a measure of personal responsibility in EVE.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.26 06:04:00 -
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short answer: if you keep your head out of your arse you won't be easily scammed
long answer can be found Here
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.26 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jessamine Edited by: Jessamine on 25/02/2008 23:19:12
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Marsman37X I doubt your losses come anywhere near the infamous GHSC heist.
Can you elaborate on this heist... who was involved and any information you might have?
Second page when you google GHSC Heist...
this was the first time i ever heard of eve. wish i started playing then rather than about a year ago when my friend told me to play.
funny thing is i imagined the characters running around stations yoinking from various hangers. and people manually training skills for days at a time. (okay so i was playing a korean grind mmo at the time :x)
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.26 06:35:00 -
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I'm guessing this was an infiltrating attempt by the ISK farmers, they stole your stuff hoping you will turn to them to recoup your assets.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.03 22:06:00 -
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The purpose of the thread was to inform other players of what had happened. It was more so others could see and be aware of the people doing scams was all.
It wasn't meant to be a pity party
Just one player trying to keep other players informed of the situation
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PaRaZiTuRL
Amarr modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.03.03 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Randy West The purpose of the thread was to inform other players of what had happened. It was more so others could see and be aware of the people doing scams was all.
It wasn't meant to be a pity party
Just one player trying to keep other players informed of the situation
So you have been scamed. No problem, not everyone has a high IQ. Now, from here you have 3 options. 1.STFU 2.Come to the forums and whine 3.Come to the forums and whine + trying to blame CCP for something that you are paying money for and have allready clicked the "accept" button on the EULA. Wait for it...
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.03 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: PaRaZiTuRL
Originally by: Randy West The purpose of the thread was to inform other players of what had happened. It was more so others could see and be aware of the people doing scams was all.
It wasn't meant to be a pity party
Just one player trying to keep other players informed of the situation
So you have been scamed. No problem, not everyone has a high IQ. Now, from here you have 3 options. 1.STFU 2.Come to the forums and whine 3.Come to the forums and whine + trying to blame CCP for something that you are paying money for and have allready clicked the "accept" button on the EULA. Wait for it...
Or you could have just went past the post instead of adding your nonsense to it as well.
Some of the people actually look at the forums for information about the game. Not just to see people name calling and acting like total idiots.
If you have something good to add that is one thing
you don't obviously so move along
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.03 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Jessamine Edited by: Jessamine on 25/02/2008 23:19:12
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Marsman37X I doubt your losses come anywhere near the infamous GHSC heist.
Can you elaborate on this heist... who was involved and any information you might have?
Second page when you google GHSC Heist...
this was the first time i ever heard of eve. wish i started playing then rather than about a year ago when my friend told me to play.
funny thing is i imagined the characters running around stations yoinking from various hangers. and people manually training skills for days at a time. (okay so i was playing a korean grind mmo at the time :x)
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Arkanden
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.03.04 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanden on 04/03/2008 00:29:23 The people that get scammed probably aren't the kind of people that will benefit from this. If you could describe how he scammed you that would help , or just repost it if it was in the petition.
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.04 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Arkanden Edited by: Arkanden on 04/03/2008 00:29:23 The people that get scammed probably aren't the kind of people that will benefit from this. If you could describe how he scammed you that would help , or just repost it if it was in the petition.
It was just a share sale scam that I fell for
He supposedly had some shares of FRPB that he was selling.......he has some others as well he was trying to sell or scam earlier today in another thread.
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PaRaZiTuRL
Amarr modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Randy West Edited by: Randy West on 23/02/2008 18:32:18 tabernak
maldak
maldakv
I am sure more will come up
Sorry if i offended you mate, but how do you honestly want people to take you seriously when you write that. From those details, as far as i know your a scammer.Write something constructive, like how it happened, what he did, you know, proof or it didn't happen, and how can people stay away from... whatever.And not here, there is a thread made just for this for naming people like this.
P.S. CCP has nothing to do with scammers.
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Maldak Vrajakstopovitch
Caldari Solitary Wolf
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:00:00 -
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I Lol'ed hard when I saw this topic.
You are an epic pile of fail, do you realize that ?
Two things :
- I have never scammed you, you're the one who wanted me to send you the FRPB shares AND BMBE shares first, and then you'd pay. I have no reason to do that, and the way you behaved, you're an obvious scammer.
- These are not my alts and I'm laughing my ass off imagining that you maybe harrassed these people. Shows how intelligent you are. You made a quick name search and came up with these ? Seriously go get a life. So if a guy is called John, all his alts are all John characters in the game ?
Now stop failing, you're the one who tried to scam me, and you don't see me coming here to cry.
But don't you dare f**k with me or I while hunt you down and pod kill you relentlessly until you come here crying asking for mercenary help.
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:55:00 -
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Good: Naming scammers so others know to avoid them Bad: Not understanding the game's principles, and blaming that on CCP's personnel Worse: Not providing any kind of proof nor evidence, hence risking fame of troller/scammer itself
-Lasse
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.04 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Maldak Vrajakstopovitch I Lol'ed hard when I saw this topic.
You are an epic pile of fail, do you realize that ?
Two things :
- I have never scammed you, you're the one who wanted me to send you the FRPB shares AND BMBE shares first, and then you'd pay. I have no reason to do that, and the way you behaved, you're an obvious scammer.
- These are not my alts and I'm laughing my ass off imagining that you maybe harrassed these people. Shows how intelligent you are. You made a quick name search and came up with these ? Seriously go get a life. So if a guy is called John, all his alts are all John characters in the game ?
Now stop failing, you're the one who tried to scam me, and you don't see me coming here to cry.
But don't you dare f**k with me or I while hunt you down and pod kill you relentlessly until you come here crying asking for mercenary help.
Yeah whatever come pod kill me you lame scammer
I sent you half a billion isk and no shares so who is the scam???
Funny because the guys in your alliance chat gave me the other names, said you were french and most of the other players did not really like you anyway.
Thats who I got the list of the alts from guys in your own channel in game. Quit trying to act like you are not a scam
It is not like I am the only person on here pointing that out.
I don't need merc help for a lame french scammer........please I could hire a merc corp to hunt for you
I have already wasted enough iskies on you already
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.04 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki Good: Naming scammers so others know to avoid them Bad: Not understanding the game's principles, and blaming that on CCP's personnel Worse: Not providing any kind of proof nor evidence, hence risking fame of troller/scammer itself
-Lasse
And how do you provide the proof??
He supposedly was selling shares of FRPB and some others BMBE and some others I believe. He received my isk and was then going to send shares.....I am still waiting for them.
If you look at his post history he had agreed to send shares to a head of a corp or alliance......well guess what that person did not receive shares either.
So you go ahead and agree to buy his shares and see what you end up with. If you would look through some of the other threads he is in you will see exactly what happened
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.04 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Heikki on 04/03/2008 21:40:41 Edit: For proof question, with a full API key a trusted third party could confirm who did transfer and what..
Originally by: Randy West And how do you provide the proof?? .. received my isk .. I am still waiting for them.
Thats better, thanks. Even after re-threading the thread, the only explanation of events before this was from Maldak. So now your accusation makes more sense, and is rather believable at least in my eyes.
If Maldak denies the accusation, adding link to screenshots of related journal entries would be partial evidence. Fakeable, but requires more work than most non-true accusers would be willing to do against some random person. Might prompt Maldak to response with screenshot missing the claimed transaction, and give rest of the readers task of analyzing and spotting which one is fake..
-Lasse
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Randy West
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.04 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki Edited by: Heikki on 04/03/2008 21:40:41 Edit: For proof question, with a full API key a trusted third party could confirm who did transfer and what..
Originally by: Randy West And how do you provide the proof?? .. received my isk .. I am still waiting for them.
Thats better, thanks. Even after re-threading the thread, the only explanation of events before this was from Maldak. So now your accusation makes more sense, and is rather believable at least in my eyes.
If Maldak denies the accusation, adding link to screenshots of related journal entries would be partial evidence. Fakeable, but requires more work than most non-true accusers would be willing to do against some random person. Might prompt Maldak to response with screenshot missing the claimed transaction, and give rest of the readers task of analyzing and spotting which one is fake..
-Lasse
I didn't mean to come off as rude if I did I am sorry for that.
I am just trying to present the information and people can make up their own minds. Our you could ask in the MD forums about the guy or about me for that matter. I have only had one transaction with anyone but it went through with no problems what so ever.
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Maldak Vrajakstopovitch
Caldari Solitary Wolf
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Posted - 2008.03.05 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Randy West
Originally by: Maldak Vrajakstopovitch I Lol'ed hard when I saw this topic.
You are an epic pile of fail, do you realize that ?
Two things :
- I have never scammed you, you're the one who wanted me to send you the FRPB shares AND BMBE shares first, and then you'd pay. I have no reason to do that, and the way you behaved, you're an obvious scammer.
- These are not my alts and I'm laughing my ass off imagining that you maybe harrassed these people. Shows how intelligent you are. You made a quick name search and came up with these ? Seriously go get a life. So if a guy is called John, all his alts are all John characters in the game ?
Now stop failing, you're the one who tried to scam me, and you don't see me coming here to cry.
But don't you dare f**k with me or I while hunt you down and pod kill you relentlessly until you come here crying asking for mercenary help.
Yeah whatever come pod kill me you lame scammer
I sent you half a billion isk and no shares so who is the scam???
Funny because the guys in your alliance chat gave me the other names, said you were french and most of the other players did not really like you anyway.
Thats who I got the list of the alts from guys in your own channel in game. Quit trying to act like you are not a scam
It is not like I am the only person on here pointing that out.
I don't need merc help for a lame french scammer........please I could hire a merc corp to hunt for you
I have already wasted enough iskies on you already
I have to say that's a nice story, but it fails at the point that Solitary Wolf is not part of any alliance. I doubt you've spoken to anyone in our private corp channel, since there's maybe one guy there every two days since my CEO, and all my friends have gone MIA and don't play anymore.
And I really doubt they'd give you these names if you had met anyone in any kind of channels, because these are clearly not my alts.
But keep on, keep on.
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