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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.04 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: trixs on 04/04/2004 03:55:20
Hi everyone,
I have been playing EVE for a few days now. All is going well and have learned the game fast. ANyway i have a few questions. What do you guys think about starting a group of newer players that run in kestrels. Basically get about 20 people and go out into lower lvl space to well kill others :)
Equip them with heavy missiles or cruise missiles. Seems to me this would be a hard force to stop without large numbers. These lil frigates can pack a punch.
trixs
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.04 03:56:00 -
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Only attack industrials and cruisers. The rest will just wtfpwn you.
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:00:00 -
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Maybe. But it sure would be fun and CHEAP. Not only that the insurance will cover more than it cost for the ships and the insurance combined.
So basically you can die all you want and not lose a damn penny.
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Barrett Blank
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:05:00 -
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What's the point though, other than of course greifing?
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:09:00 -
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What. Whats the point? To have fun of course.
This game is all about pirates and empire building.
If your in a lower lvl system you should know your probably going to be attacked. If you dont understand that then you should be killed.
I dont call it griefing, its the mechanics of the game. Griefing would be killing pods. I would only d that if they had a bounty :)
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Maule
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:25:00 -
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Only attack industrials and cruisers. The rest will just wtfpwn you.
20 kessies. 5 whit warp scramblers, mwd and sencor damper, 5 whit the same and just some webbers and then just 10 kessies whit standard setup whit sencor dampers warp scramblers webbers and mwd¦s.. that group I wont even meet whit 5bs unless its all scorps loaded whit fof and cruise missiles. maybe you can use drones but 20 kessies can kill those drones pretty damn fast
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:29:00 -
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20 kestrals with 1 warp disruptor, 1 sensor dampner and 1 MWD each would OWN any lone BS pilot, and would own even some small groups of BS pilots.
Good luck to you if you try it, if not, i'm accepting kestrel pilots into my corp for PvP if you are interested.
Shamis
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.04 04:30:00 -
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Thats what I thought.. It has the bee hive affect. So many targets and they have the same weapons you do. There defenses are just very low.
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Amox
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: Amox on 04/04/2004 05:29:26
Well your not the first to think of this. Yes it does work and work well.
However you said: "I dont call it griefing, its the mechanics of the game. Griefing would be killing pods. I would only d that if they had a bounty :)"
Little hint here. If you have 10 Kestrels shooting missiles you will pod kill alot weither you intend to or not. 
Like you said though its the mechanics of the game. With that said though there are few that kill just to kill. Thats why he said griefing. Usually its a pay me or die thing. Few go out just to kill, and really whats the point in that other than to grief?
P.S. lose a lot of loot too. 
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Jehutty
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Posted - 2004.04.04 05:28:00 -
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Yeah Trixs,like you said you are a newb and maybe dont remember or never heard of Merc. Frigates...They did it for a while but like others said the only good thing that would be for is killing indys and some cruisers.But as most of us know deep space hold more things than just good ore,Like maybe An Alliance gate blocking and if you came in on one of those in kestrels ya might have a lil suprise in store for you.
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PaulLRyan
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Posted - 2004.04.04 06:49:00 -
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What's the point though, other than of course greifing?
I think the point is that these guys don't wanna wait (and mine and run agent missions) until they all have Battleships before they get into PvP. The only chance for new guys is to band together.
As for keeping it 'fair' and not just killing lone miners and other new solo players. What if the corp just hires itself out as extra ships in corp wars. Really big corps will not need then but smaller ones might find that for the cost of a battleship they can hire 20 pilots and not care how many times they die. Those extra pilots might just make a difference.
Gives a proper 'game' reason for what they want to do, makes them some money and removes the perceived injustice of 'greifing'. Although as far as I'm concerned if I'm in low sec space and I get fragged that's my problem.
Now if the above scenario doesn't work (I'm a noob too and I guess it's already been done) then fair enough. I just think (again as a noob) that fighting real people is the difference between EVE and just booting up an old version of Elite....
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Rob Mattacks
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Posted - 2004.04.04 08:59:00 -
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Minmatar breachers would be better as they are almost twice as fast as kestrels so can avoid missiles etc...although they have one less midslot and launcher they are still better for pvp imo and if you travel in large groups u can mix fittings so some have warp disruptors some have webifiers and some have sensor dampeners 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.04 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 04/04/2004 09:12:09
Nice idea
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.04.04 10:14:00 -
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the only drawback being , ull have to get 20 newbs
to show up at the same place at the same time , and
follow orders . teach them how to use TS and not panic ..
not that an easy job
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Dekar
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Posted - 2004.04.04 10:52:00 -
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Plus, if you come across gatecampers in 0.0, even 2 BS will take out a load of kestrels before you guys close in enough to see them warp away.
However, if you're the one ambushing (that will probably be the case in the majority of the cases) you'll be doing some nice damage :)
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AwiL
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Posted - 2004.04.04 14:48:00 -
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mmmmmmmm...yummy frigates. your gonna learn real fast what you can and cannot attack in a frigate. cough hybrids cough. but good luck with that. you might want to throw an app into merc frigs tho man, they're exactly what your lookin for. and you don't gotta go to 0.0 to find it with all the f*ckin wars against them
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.04.04 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 04/04/2004 15:42:24
This is how Reikoku first got started a long time ago, using a mass of frigs to pwn BS.
It's great fun and you can build a lot of tactics and friends through this time to take you into the future.
Ignore all those doubting you or being idiots who can't see any potential beyond a BS. This game has far more to offer than BS.
Good luck and go scout for some innocent BS miners in 0.0 just waiting to be blasted.
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Yaltabaoth
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Posted - 2004.04.04 20:03:00 -
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Eve Radio Army is currently on its way to 0.0 space to hunt down one of the most notorious pirates in EVE space (doby is still withholding the name though).
Our numbers are currently up to 60 flying our trusty newbie ships and we will kill him with our glorious civillian gattling guns and extract every little piece of tritanium with our mining lasers!
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.04.05 00:27:00 -
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If you were going to do this "go to 0.0 space and fight" anyway...
Why charge to merc? If you were just looking for a reason to fight why charge? Just merc. Thats an unlikely sale anyway. "noobs in kestrels will fight for you" Just corp up and put your name out there: "noobs with kestrels want a reason to fight. Convo me and will join your side just cause were crazy like that. We will harass the enemy no charge"
Maybe one day after you shake the noobness you can talk about charging but I suspect right now if your looking for a fight just form a merc corp of noobs and offer your services to what ever side strikes your fancy or approaches you first.
Also when you give it away you can make good PR without being examined. See the EnB thread of them getting harrased:
"Hi got a young merc corp mostly frigate. Were going to take up your side. Ill convo you tonite"
If you dont charge it just looks good imo. If you try to charge you look cheesy cause you know and shortly they will know your a noob.
Anyway form a corp of these 20 pilots and go fight the good fight for someone. Thats an excuse to fight.. just like running to 0.0 space and tagging what you see.
Heck you make me want to get a kestrel~
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.04.05 08:46:00 -
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Eve Radio Army is currently on its way to 0.0 space to hunt down one of the most notorious pirates in EVE space (doby is still withholding the name though).
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You know that ERA is meant to loose ?  think that event is fun, now I have not joined them myself but made a alt that is Caldari who I was thinking of training for use with Kestrel and stuff... but so far it have been with the thinking.
I do have had the same tought as the treadstarter... because I myself lost my Vexor to a pirate when we was mining in a 0.1 system, luckily I did not get podded... and to my luck when the insurancemoney came in I could afford a Thorax 
But my idea was... well let say it is a secret you pirates might see that one day.
When all that is said, I think pirates and the guys who scam at Escrow is what makes this game fun... I mean what is the fun in a "safe" game, I have been mining in 1.0 systems and it is boring when nobody is firing at you then thinking of NPC rats... so every now and then I move into deeper space to mine for rarer ore... THAT is fun.
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.05 23:12:00 -
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Thanks for all the information everyone.
Does anyone know some member names in merc frigates? The founder is never on. :(
Anyway, i might be new to the game but i learn really fast. TOday is what my 6th day and I alreayd have 2 cruisers. HOwever I like the frig idea because it would be fun ^^
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Vodalus
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Posted - 2004.04.06 00:49:00 -
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Breachers and Rifters are better. If you have an MWD on a rifter you can outrun cruise missiles (maybe on a breacher too with the right skills).
Anyways, if you wanna talk to some MF we typically hang out in Yulai/Nonni/New Cal area, although these days it seems everyone is in Carrignottin (sp?) fighting with the CH guys.
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Dalarian
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Posted - 2004.04.06 02:24:00 -
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yar brother!!!!!!
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.04.06 07:30:00 -
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hey now, I took our an omen and a maller in my kestrel once....
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2004.04.06 07:40:00 -
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Thats what some guys already done... when i was washing my ship outside the station the local pops up 10+ppl approached the station... they started a lock at me, too bad no one got out of the system. I have it frapped and some screenshots too. It was as Fun as i liked it, i cant stop laughing i dunno why 
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Posted - 2004.04.06 07:56:00 -
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I dont call it griefing, its the mechanics of the game. Griefing would be killing pods. I would only d that if they had a bounty :)
Reading this, I do not believe you when you tell you are here for a few days only .... And it "is" griefing, going out ganking people who just do not play the way you do. And - the podkill is for dessert.
Have a cookie.
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2004.04.06 08:16:00 -
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Lol, fit 1 Multi spec jammer to 5 of the kestrels.
Fit a webber onto 2 more kestrels.
Fit some warp disruptors on a few of ur remaining kes's.
load up with cruise missiles and go p'own a battleships.
Make sure u FRAPS it so we can all ahave a laugh.
Make sure it isnt me lol, GL.
Ahhhh, fledgling pirates. Warms the heart that. Let this be a lesson, not all new pilots need be carebear miners.
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Daruma
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Posted - 2004.04.06 08:21:00 -
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Trixs, you can ask Omri, shiver me timbers, shani or Azziza Meekstone about applying for Merc Frigates. We are always happy to have more frig fighters.
See you laters, and if they aren't on, look me up and i'll hook you up, i'm on almost every night west european time.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.04.06 12:46:00 -
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if you all spread the EW between you and all call the same target it works, what doesnt worrk is having 1 frig jamming and the rest not as when he goes pop u get locked again...
Words of the wise : Ive fallen Prone to the relying on 1 or 2 frigs for EW, its better to stack accross the fleet, and also you pick up the stack bonuses for dampners as there coming from multiple frigs..
But at the end of the day u can have the greatest fun in frigs.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2004.04.06 13:11:00 -
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Ahhhh, fledgling pirates. Warms the heart that. Let this be a lesson, not all new pilots need be carebear miners.
Thats absolutly TRUTH! And a wrong Statement of the carbears. If you are good, you can ransom yourself a BS or sell it...
Should be no Problem locking down a BS with the right Tactics!
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
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Ace Mangler
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Posted - 2004.04.07 01:43:00 -
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I dont call it griefing, its the mechanics of the game. Griefing would be killing pods. I would only d that if they had a bounty :)
Reading this, I do not believe you when you tell you are here for a few days only .... And it "is" griefing, going out ganking people who just do not play the way you do. And - the podkill is for dessert.
Have a cookie.
Now now...
What it comes down to is. You pay your 15$ to play the way you want and i pay my 15$ to play the way i want. If you dont want to be killed then empire space is the perfect place to dwell around in. If you exit empire space you are pretty much signing a contract that states that you may get killed at any minute...infact when you enter lower security empire space a window pops up that unsecure space is dangerous and might be host to 'griefers'.
The thing that seems to just slip by all the loud accusers and complainers is...
People who kill other people in EVE for no apparant reason, do not do this to ruin their victims day, they do this because its alot more fun to shoot real people then it is to shoot pirate drones. Its even more fun when the person your shooting is a whiny accuser or complainer
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trixs
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Posted - 2004.04.07 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: trixs on 07/04/2004 19:57:02
Hi Everyone!
Thanks for all the information. After posting this thread something happend that I did not expect. Many people have been messaging wondering if I am going to go through with it and if so can they join.
Anyway after running the idea past a few people I am going to try it out. It seems like a good idea that would be alot of fun. Anyway I will be forming the corp in the next few days or this up comming weekend. Ill try to keep this thread uptodate
This will be an open corp for all skill levels. I truly believe anyone can be taught to pvp if they give it some time. The only requirment I would have is that you participate in corp activites. IE PVPING
trixs
EDIT: Oh, some members may love pirating and should fell free to do so. I know I will.
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Posted - 2004.04.07 21:06:00 -
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trixs:
A corpmate of mine spoke with you last night. We're both interested in some Kestrel ganking, though we have our own corp with other friends, obviously. Is that going to be a problem?
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