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Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.25 01:50:00 - [1] I got to thinking, recently, and, being a Gallente/Amarr hybrid character, I got to wondering, why there are no pirate factions that fly Gallente/Amarr type ships? To recap, we already have: Guristas - Gallente/Caldari (enemies) Serpentis - Gallente/Minmatar (allies) Sansha's Nation - Amarr/Caldari (allies) Blood Raiders - Amarr/Minmatar (enemies) Angel Cartel - Caldari/Minmatar (enemies) So three pirate factions that have ships hybrided from opposing factions, and two that have ships hybrided from allied factions. Makes sense, really. They combine the best of both. This got me thinking "What if there were Amarr/Gallente hybrid ships?". I don't know if there is a pirate faction that could change to this or that is already out there that impliments these (I can't find any, so either they don't exist or they're impossible to get). However, I came up with some ideas for an Amarr/Gallente ship class! Battleship: Name: Whatever would fit. Ship Type: Reddish Blue or Golden Green Dominix/Megathron (or) Reddish Blue or Golden Green Armageddon/Apocalypse High Slots: 8 (6 turret slots) Med Slots: 5 Low Slots: 8 20,500 Powergrid 600 CPU Shields: 6,500 Armor: 8,700 Hull: 9,000 Drone Bay: 250 m3 Capacitor: 7,500 Bonuses: Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus: 5% Increase in Large Energy Turret/Large Hybrid Turret per lvl Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus: 10% Decrease in capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets /or/ +5% max capacitor per lvl Role Bonus: +5 Drone Control (Thought this fit, considering Gallente and Amarr are the two nations that use drones the most). Cruiser: Name: Again, whatever would fit. Ship Type: Mixed Amarr/Gallente Colour Scheme Thorax/Vexor or Arbitrator/Omen High Slots: 6 (4 turret) Med Slots: 3 Low Slots: 6 Drone Bay: 50m3 Shields: 2,000 Armor: 2,200 Hull: 2,500 Capacitor: 2,000 Bonuses: Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% to all armor resistances per lvl Gallente Cruise Skill Bonus: +5% Drone Damage per lvl and +10% Drone Hitpoints per lvl Role Bonus: +25m3 Drone Bay Size Frigate: Name: Again, whatever fits. Appearance: Mixed Amarr/Gallente colour-scheme Executioner/Atron High Slots: 4(3 turrets) Med Slots: 2 Low Slots: 4 Shields: 300 Armor: 500 Hull: 650 Capacitor: 550 Drone Bay: 15m3 Bonuses: Amarr Frigate Skill Bonus: -10% Capacitor Use of Small Energy Turrets per lvl Gallente Frigate Skill Bonus: 5% to maximum velocity per lvl Role Bonus: +10% to speed boost gained from Afterburner and Microwarp Drive modules. I've put some thought into this. Thought I'd post my idea on the forums. So please, tell me what you guys think! Constructive critisism, etc. Please no flaming though. If you don't like my idea then just click the back button.
Last Wolf Templars of Space	Posted - 2008.02.25 01:58:00 - [2] Angel Cartel is Gallente/Minmatar Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.25 02:04:00 - [3] Edited by: Sahkaedu Orinvi on 25/02/2008 02:05:22 Originally by: Last Wolf Angel Cartel is Gallente/Minmatar Ah. I'm terribly sorry. Fixed it now. (Got confused, lol). Thank you for pointing that out, Wolf.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.02.25 02:42:00 - [4] I made up some stats for Equilibrium of Mankind as Gallente/Amarr faction ships. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.25 03:36:00 - [5] Cool. Didn't see it though, how old is it? <.< I like my ship ideas better though. =P sorry. I love lasers. I'd be Amarr if they weren't fanatical religious nutjobs that enslave people.
Mannliche Frau Baptism oF Fire VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.25 07:50:00 - [6] I like where you're going with this, but there is a minor flaw in your idea. Pirate factions generally fill a niche that isn't already filled. An armor tanking drone and turret ship is already covered by Gallente. Sure you switched out the hybrids for lasers, but that really isn't a significant change. Also your bonuses aren't consistent between the different ship sizes like all existing pirate factions are. I do agree that a drone based faction is a must as there are no drone based faction ships. A shield tanking drone boat would fill a unique niche, but wouldn't fit with being Amarr/Gall What about an EW and drone ship? Only for of EW that isn't covered extensively already is ECM bursts. Ok, so here is my suggestion: Role Bonus: 50% reduced capicitor use and duration of ECM bursts Gall: 10% to drone hit points and damage per level And while a little off the wall, it keeps with the theme of not requiring a lock Amarr: 10% bonus to damage of FoF missiles per level Alright, my suggestion may suck, but you have to think outside the box. Come up with something unique that isn't already offered in existing ships. Also, this belongs in Features and Ideas Discussion.
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.25 12:43:00 - [7] mmm... you're right. I like where you're going with the Electronic Warfare, but... how about...? Role Bonus: 50% Increase in Electronic Warfare Drone effectiveness. Amarr Ship Skill Bonus: Varying between Damage to Energy Turrets and Resistances/Max Capacitor Gallente Ship Skill Bonus: Varrying between RoF to large turrets and max velocity.
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.25 14:19:00 - [8] I'm all for Rogue Drone faction ships, simply for the utterly awesome Dominix skin they got in premium content. Be the Ultimate Ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.25 14:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Mannliche Frau Only for of EW that isn't covered extensively already is ECM bursts. Ok, so here is my suggestion: Role Bonus: 50% reduced capicitor use and duration of ECM bursts Gall: 10% to drone hit points and damage per level And while a little off the wall, it keeps with the theme of not requiring a lock Amarr: 10% bonus to damage of FoF missiles per level Alright, my suggestion may suck, but you have to think outside the box. Come up with something unique that isn't already offered in existing ships. Also, this belongs in Features and Ideas Discussion. If you're trying to keep with the theme here, this would be Gallente/Caldari. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2008.02.25 15:21:00 - [10] I really like where this thread is headed. In the spirit of what Mannliche Frau was saying about the faction ships filling a niche, I've always thought there should be a faction frigate with the same astrometric bonus found in the Probe or Heron. Here's why: All of the races have an astrometric frigate except the Amarr. The frigate that was designed to be an Amarr astrometric frigate was the Crucifier (says so in the description) but somehow the Crucifier was modified during construction to instead have a tracking disruption bonus rather than scientific scanning. This means that the Amarr players with fewer skill points are required to learn one of the other races astrometrics ships or work straight for the Anathema. Why not have an Amarr/Gallente hybrid frigate that has an astrometric bonus. Clearly this fills a niche as no other faction frigate has such a bonus, and it allows the Amarr to at least fly one of their own, so-to-speak, for pre-Anathema astrometrics. Cheers Eventy One MGLN CEO

Mannliche Frau Baptism oF Fire VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.25 18:56:00 - [11] Have you also considered a reason for this factions existence? CCP isn't going to introduce a new pirate faction just to fill out the faction combinations that haven't been used yet. My idea: -Purpose: to create more value in the rogue drone regions for people who aren't industrialists -Storyline: A group of Gallente scientists develop a method for influencing the behavior of rogue drones. Instead of sharing this technology according to the Yulai treaty, they join an violent anti-slaver group and amass an army of rogue drones to run raids on slaver groups (Amarr, Khanid, Ammatar, Sansha, etc.) -Implementation --Add missions in slaver territories to kill this faction. --Add some of this factions rats in with the rogue drone rats. --Increase the average bounty value of these rats as there would only be one or two per rat spawn (the rest would be drones) --Add 1-3 constellations in the middle of drone territory controlled by this faction with belt rats consisting entirely of this faction.
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.25 22:02:00 - [12] Interesting ideas, Ish, Mann. However, if you ask me, there would have to be more than just a Dominix version of the Rogue Drone Battleship for me to bite THAT bait. At least one rogue drone battleship for each race. Maybe cruisers too? Or battlecruisers... Considering that a Battlecruiser in EvE is usually longer/taller than the Eiffel Tower (324 meters tall), they'd be large enough vessels to take control of.
Pantaloon McPants	Posted - 2008.02.25 22:08:00 - [13] who doesnt want to see more toys in eve :) faction domi or capitals even, drool maybe some day. Its not rocket science, just add 10-25% to whatever bonus these ships usually get and slap on some fancy skin and a name.
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.02.25 22:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Sahkaedu Orinvi Cool. Didn't see it though, how old is it? <.< I like my ship ideas better though. =P sorry. I love lasers. I'd be Amarr if they weren't fanatical religious nutjobs that enslave people. Who's stopping ya? I'm Gallente flying caldari ships and loving it (something about the irony of using your enemies weapons against them) Anyways there are allready a few ships that arn't player ownable, and i think the pirate factions could do with some pirate faction BC hulls as well I'd like a gallente/caldari crossbreed, something with drones, missiles and shieldtanking.. i would SO get me one!!! _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Vasili vonHolst Minmatar Gargamel's Lair	Posted - 2008.02.25 22:36:00 - [15] More, expensive (5b+ range) non-model duplicate (think mach, not CNR) ships would be great! Something that you have to go to low sec / 0.0 to earn, not l4 mission grind in high sec. Maybie only Pirate agents give the offer with LP equivalent to the cost 5-10B. Something uber , like a state raven (but does not cost 100B). HELP! :P ------------------------------------------------ Movie: + Trillion ISK damage to Care Bear community
Reven Darklight 256 FREELANCERS Black Scope Project	Posted - 2008.02.26 02:07:00 - [16] I've always wanted to see a min/caldari faction. but as far as faction ships go, I'd love to see a faction caldari navy issue Drake or what ever they could call it. the drake itself is really a good ship with decent skills. a faction version thereof would be pretty good
XiticiX Gallente Kudzu Collective Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.26 05:37:00 - [17] Lots of good ideas here.
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.26 12:44:00 - [18] Edited by: Sahkaedu Orinvi on 26/02/2008 12:45:02 Hunter: Those actually do exist Hunter. They're called Guristas ships. They shield tank, are Caldari/Gallente hybrids, use mostly missiles, and have drone bays. To Vasili: I agree with custom models but... 5bil+? That's a bit over the top... a Machariel doesn't even go for over 1billion ISK at the moment. I think perhaps in the 600,000,000-950,000,000 range would be fine.
Sahkaedu Orinvi	Posted - 2008.02.26 12:46:00 - [19] Edited by: Sahkaedu Orinvi on 26/02/2008 12:46:42 Originally by: Reven Darklight I've always wanted to see a min/caldari faction. but as far as faction ships go, I'd love to see a faction caldari navy issue Drake or what ever they could call it. the drake itself is really a good ship with decent skills. a faction version thereof would be pretty good I would too, Darklight. (At least on my main). One would THINK that Angel Cartel would be Caldari/Minmatar. Or just pure Minmatar... They don't actually have ANY Gallente ship characteristics. They use missiles and projectiles and shield tank. edit Bah sorry for the double-post. Thought it'd merge my two messages into one like the previous board I was on does.


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