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Delor Jax
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Posted - 2008.02.28 23:10:00 -
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Hey Everyone
Any suggestions on a good defense against a spider tanking group of ships?
Any suggestions on breaking a spider tanked group of ships?
Thank you for your comments and assistance.
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation
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Posted - 2008.02.28 23:17:00 -
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Falcon
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Katrina Coreli
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.02.28 23:24:00 -
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Bumping, ECM, rediculous amounts of dps
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Firkragg
PREDATORS OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2008.02.28 23:58:00 -
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i hear spiders dont tank very well 
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.29 00:41:00 -
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A combination of ECM and Sensor dampeners (locking time) on supporting ships (ie, jam&Damp anything but your active target) tends to break most Spidertanking groups.
Use some kind of specialty jamming ship (Kitsune, Blackbird, Rook, Falcon or Scorpion) or just hideous amounts of ECM drones and then fit in sensordamps on your regular combat ships.
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X99 Z990
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Posted - 2008.02.29 01:11:00 -
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A rolled up newspaper. 
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Arazel Chainfire
United System's Commonwealth
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Posted - 2008.02.29 01:22:00 -
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As others have said - ecm, damps, and bump.
ECM (should be obvious)
ECM burst (requires you to be in the middle of them though...)
ECM drones (always nice  )
damp - best used w/ ecm, and use locking time scripts, break their lock, and damp them so they can't lock each other again
bump - range on large remote reps is ~8km, if you use this technique though, kill any logistics ships fast (range of up to ~70km)
And lastly (but not leastly) - get a bunch of minny BS's or abaddons and alpha them out of existance with every shot  (need ~100,000 alpha to mostly guarantee kill on BS's... max any bs can take is ~300,000, but if it has that then you can safely ignore it because it can't do anything else) For instapopping, you need to have you dps within about 10 seconds or so to guarantee that they can't repair your target.
-Arazel
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Stuart Price
Caldari
Havoc Inc
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.29 04:18:00 -
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Or for simple elegance and exploitation of psychology:
Call multiple primaries. Give each of your squads a primary instead of one fleet primary.
They almost certainly won't manage to call reps onto the affected ships before a few die.
Of course, jammers and megabumpage work wonders. As do energy neuts.
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ceyriot
Crimson Rebellion
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Posted - 2008.02.29 06:30:00 -
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 Originally by: X99 Z990
A rolled up newspaper.
seconded, this technique has also been used with much success against spiderman 
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.02.29 06:49:00 -
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ecm, ecm, ecm, ecm, ecm, ecm
lots of it :P
then enough ships to hold all of them down and to kill them
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Ban Shui
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.02.29 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price
Call multiple primaries. Give each of your squads a primary instead of one fleet primary.
Or rapidly switch primaries to increase their (and your own) workload.
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Iron Wraith
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Posted - 2008.02.29 11:27:00 -
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would a bombing wing help out? with the 15km blast and everything. i'm thinking its what they were made for but dont know enough about them to be sure.
as for defence could you not make your own web?
Because sometimes you just have to go back to your roots:
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Recalesence
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Posted - 2008.02.29 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price
Or for simple elegance and exploitation of psychology:
Call multiple primaries. Give each of your squads a primary instead of one fleet primary.
They almost certainly won't manage to call reps onto the affected ships before a few die.
Of course, jammers and megabumpage work wonders. As do energy neuts.
Give this guy a gold medal.
Also, nevermind I wouldnt want you to know how to confuse spider tankers, just try to use your imagination there are a few more tactics.
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Mr Ignitious
Gallente
Rome
Rare Faction
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Posted - 2008.02.29 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Iron Wraith
would a bombing wing help out? with the 15km blast and everything. i'm thinking its what they were made for but dont know enough about them to be sure.
as for defence could you not make your own web?
bombs don't hurt bs's that much really... takes atleast 3 of them and thats if they're untanked to the dmg of the bomb. bombs are good for killing unwary inties/t1 cruisers
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Wardeneo
Gallente
BLL Wise Guys
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.29 15:33:00 -
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its maily ecm, but im shote id u have a couple of bs, all running some heavy neuts spider tank wont run for much longer ^^
wardeneo
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Perfect Diamond
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Posted - 2008.02.29 15:36:00 -
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I have never used ECM bursts.
Does it affect both enemies and friends?
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.02.29 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price
Or for simple elegance and exploitation of psychology:
Call multiple primaries. Give each of your squads a primary instead of one fleet primary.
They almost certainly won't manage to call reps onto the affected ships before a few die.
Of course, jammers and megabumpage work wonders. As do energy neuts.
This.
Its alot less confusing for you to switch primaries around to mess up their rep than it is for them to rep the right ship. Reaction time, etc.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.02.29 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Omarvelous on 29/02/2008 16:45:10
Originally by: Perfect Diamond
I have never used ECM bursts.
Does it affect both enemies and friends?
Yes they affect both your friends and the hostiles. All they do is break the lock - they can instantly try to re-lock you, unlike a normal ecm jammer.
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