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Vogon
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Posted - 2004.04.05 12:33:00 -
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Here's how....you've been mining for hours and you now have an indi full of ore, you might want to sell it. So you go to the station and they offer you say 13 isk per unit. You check the market and find out 5 jumps away they will give you 18 isk. Well worth the trip so you get the 18 isk.
Ore theives don't have this luxury, we have to get back out there and get the rest before you empty your own can. So we sell at the 13 isk.
This has an obvious advantage to the economy, with cheaper materials and the saving can be passed on to all in the community by production of in turn cheaper ships, goods, etc. So next time someone does a bit of unoffical hauling for you don't forget you are helping everyone else so don't feel too bad....
cya in space
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.04.05 12:37:00 -
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.05 12:53:00 -
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Here's how....you've been mining for hours and you now have an indi full of ore, you might want to sell it. So you go to the station and they offer you say 13 isk per unit. You check the market and find out 5 jumps away they will give you 18 isk. Well worth the trip so you get the 18 isk.
Ore theives don't have this luxury, we have to get back out there and get the rest before you empty your own can. So we sell at the 13 isk.
This has an obvious advantage to the economy, with cheaper materials and the saving can be passed on to all in the community by production of in turn cheaper ships, goods, etc. So next time someone does a bit of unoffical hauling for you don't forget you are helping everyone else so don't feel too bad....
cya in space
ROFLMAO! Yeah I like that 
I'm a great fan of Vogon, mainly because when my alt mines he does it secure 
I'm gonna have to put some buy orders in with you mate.
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ClarCE
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Posted - 2004.04.05 13:06:00 -
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Here's how....you've been mining for hours and you now have an indi full of ore, you might want to sell it. So you go to the station and they offer you say 13 isk per unit. You check the market and find out 5 jumps away they will give you 18 isk. Well worth the trip so you get the 18 isk.
Ore theives don't have this luxury, we have to get back out there and get the rest before you empty your own can. So we sell at the 13 isk.
This has an obvious advantage to the economy, with cheaper materials and the saving can be passed on to all in the community by production of in turn cheaper ships, goods, etc. So next time someone does a bit of unoffical hauling for you don't forget you are helping everyone else so don't feel too bad....
cya in space
Hehe, I do like watching those arguments in local, you must get a lot of grief Vogon, also a lot of people who do steal ore, aren't man enough to admit it, so props. (unless of course you are an alt) 
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2004.04.05 14:00:00 -
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(in character) Vogon is a pain in the **** to a lot of people and he's hit some friends of mine which i dont like.
(out of character) Vogon is a good laugh and i've had a good joke around with him, decent guy just playing the game his way.
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khainestar
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Posted - 2004.04.05 15:28:00 -
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In before the lock
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Here's how....you've been mining for hours and you now have an indi full of ore, you might want to sell it. So you go to the station and they offer you say 13 isk per unit. You check the market and find out 5 jumps away they will give you 18 isk. Well worth the trip so you get the 18 isk.
Ore theives don't have this luxury, we have to get back out there and get the rest before you empty your own can. So we sell at the 13 isk. This has an obvious advantage to the economy, with cheaper materials and the saving can be passed on to all in the community by production of in turn cheaper ships, goods, etc. So next time someone does a bit of unoffical hauling for you don't forget you are helping everyone else so don't feel too bad....
hhmmm that top grade troll bait your dropping there.
I hope you got flame proof clothing.
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slothe
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Posted - 2004.04.05 15:45:00 -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.05 16:47:00 -
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lol, I like Vogan. Actually i like all ore thieves simply because they liberate the ore of the greedy/ignorant people. Continue your crusade against carebeardom champion!
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.04.05 17:28:00 -
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Ore theives don't have this luxury, we have to get back out there and get the rest before you empty your own can. So we sell at the 13 isk.
OR you could grab all the ore you can, refine then haul it over and sell it for 18 isk per unit. But whatever.
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Reah
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Posted - 2004.04.05 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Reah on 05/04/2004 18:55:15
btw this is'nt good for the economy imo. because of ore thieves its a sertain 'risk' involved with the mining. so the miners will be less willing to mine and seek out alternative ways of making money -> less miners -> lack of minerals -> higher price
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.05 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Reah on 05/04/2004 18:55:15
btw this is'nt good for the economy imo. because of ore thieves its a sertain 'risk' involved with the mining. so the miners will be less willing to mine and seek out alternative ways of making money -> less miners -> lack of minerals -> higher price
LMAO Sorry I was forgetting Eve is getting short of miners
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DeathGrip
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Posted - 2004.04.05 21:37:00 -
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To be honest, I mine a lot... Ore theifs agrivate the living you know what out of me, but, I really don't mind since I have 2 accounts, and never have more than 1 full load of ore in a container. What does bother me is when ore theiefs steal the 2k of ore from the Noobs. I really feel they should be able to look at the miner and decide weather or not they should steal from them. Then you have people like Peace Guard who don't steal the ore, they Just Destroy the canister, how does this help anyone?
[i]Everyone needs to bring PVP to the table, Miners, Builders, Researchers, Get yourself a Frig, and help out some, You may even |
Koda
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Posted - 2004.04.05 21:44:00 -
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I can't stand this type of "gameplay" but I suppose until people smarten up and stop jet can mining in >.4 it will continue.
I wish you jacka$$es would get a real job. Wouldn't have so much time to crow on the forums.
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Necrome
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Posted - 2004.04.05 21:45:00 -
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I think(being pirate my self) people shouls use sesure pods or if they mine in 0.8+ get a indy and stick mienr and and mine afk????  SO IT AINT THE PRIATES FAULT THEY JSUT TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING
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deuce throw
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Posted - 2004.04.05 23:43:00 -
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Continue your crusade against carebeardom champion!
Doing our best to serve EVE :)
My first day as an ore thief by Deuce Throw.
Im fairly new at this so i would love some tips from the masters. I had an argument in local today with the BS driver that was giving me hassle in Diaderi, he reckoned i should be looking to get ore legally and leave the n00bs cans alone etc...well i had to tell his almighty highness in his BS that he was stealing much more ore from the n00bs than i ever could in my little probe.
3 people got themselves killed in their cruisers and one frigate pilot. All of whom realised what they were doing and for some reason thought that the loss of cruisers was better than paying me a small fee to leave to their operations alone.
I suppose theres the principle of the thing but it still seemed a bit daft...im perfectly honorable and i would have left their ops alone.
I was perfectly polite in local chat and always retained a sense of humor regarding the whole situation. It is a game after all. :)
thanks for reading...sorry to have thread robbed ;)
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Jehutty
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Posted - 2004.04.08 03:09:00 -
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You lil fewl Vogon yer lucky I never caught ya in space today had I caught you in my Carcal i wouldve taking a sec hit to kil ya from steeling new peoples ore.
No matter how big
No matter how strong
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.08 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 08/04/2004 11:04:21
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I think(being pirate my self) people shouls use sesure pods or if they mine in 0.8+ get a indy and stick mienr and and mine afk????SO IT AINT THE PRIATES FAULT THEY JSUT TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING
oh the greef
remember me? 
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QueenKenny
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Posted - 2004.04.08 12:33:00 -
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The only good ore thief is a dead ore thief.
Do what I do. Train an alt to fly a kestrel. Load up with Cruise Missiles. Find ore thief and destroy. You should be able to get 2 or 3 volly's of missiles before concord get you.
Your mining char can then go and get the loot from your kestrel and the indy for use in the next attack.
Cost to you. Kestrel and some looted missile launchers, maybe 120,000 isk. Cost to thief 400k for a new indy.
But dead ore thieves do help the ecomomy as they keep on buying indys.
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HITANDRUN
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Posted - 2004.04.08 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: HITANDRUN on 08/04/2004 16:26:26
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I'm an orethief aswell, although I check local and I don't rob people that only have been playing a month orso, not much in the can anyways. Dream targets are corps that battleship strip mine in 0.5 and only haul when they have 2-3 cans that are full .
But beware, oretheft is a very hard job to pull off, the victems corp will hunt you down with their imagenary 50 bs strong fleet, pod you 10 times to oblivion and you'll never be safe from them again... Sounds like harassment to me
Ore theft is an easy job to pull off (1.0-.5 systems), but it comes with consequences that you should be aware of and probably are. When you harass players by stealing their labored fruits, what else do you expect to happen? If you are allowed to harass them by stealing, why shouldn't they be allowed to pod you a few times(It's tick for tack)? Old saying: For every action, there is a reaction and don't start sh*t you don't want to own up to later.
Think about what your doing before you do it. After the dirty deed is done and you have 50 ships chasing you down to pod you, you have brought it on yourself. That is not harassment!!
If I was in 0.0 and you stole crokite from me, I would pod you everytime you came out of the station, but more then likely I would never see you out there!!
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AwiL
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Posted - 2004.04.08 16:46:00 -
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ummm, standard economics tells you that theft raises prices man. when stuff gets stolen, prices go up to compensate for the stolen goods. but happy thieving
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Meriones Unguiculatus
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Posted - 2004.04.09 17:36:00 -
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The only good ore thief is a dead ore thief.
Do what I do. Train an alt to fly a kestrel. Load up with Cruise Missiles. Find ore thief and destroy. You should be able to get 2 or 3 volly's of missiles before concord get you.
Your mining char can then go and get the loot from your kestrel and the indy for use in the next attack.
Cost to you. Kestrel and some looted missile launchers, maybe 120,000 isk. Cost to thief 400k for a new indy.
But dead ore thieves do help the ecomomy as they keep on buying indys.
You can also pick up several million for Vogon's corpse which should buy you a few kestrels to use on other gutless lowlifes.
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Elphaba
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Posted - 2004.04.09 21:54:00 -
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Cost to you. Kestrel and some looted missile launchers, maybe 120,000 isk. Cost to thief 400k for a new indy.
Suicide Kestrel: 120,000 isk
12 Cruise Missiles: 100,000 isk
Time to train a new alt because you're an evil criminal who can't show your face in Empire Space anymore: 2 weeks.
The Happiness that you recieve watching me Warp away to safety with a hold full of liberated ore...
Priceless.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.09 22:57:00 -
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Cost to you. Kestrel and some looted missile launchers, maybe 120,000 isk. Cost to thief 400k for a new indy.
Suicide Kestrel: 120,000 isk
12 Cruise Missiles: 100,000 isk
Time to train a new alt because you're an evil criminal who can't show your face in Empire Space anymore: 2 weeks.
The Happiness that you recieve watching me Warp away to safety with a hold full of liberated ore...
Priceless.
dont u mean - liberated cargo full of BS materials ? 
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Salazar N'terre
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Posted - 2004.04.09 23:58:00 -
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I'm an orethief aswell, although I check local and I don't rob people that only have been playing a month orso, not much in the can anyways. Dream targets are corps that battleship strip mine in 0.5 and only haul when they have 2-3 cans that are full .
But beware, oretheft is a very hard job to pull off, the victems corp will hunt you down with their imagenary 50 bs strong fleet, pod you 10 times to oblivion and you'll never be safe from them again... Sounds like harassment to me
Got to say we had a laugh at your visit, watching concord take you out because you hit one of our ships and not the can with a cruise missle. Noob thief.
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hagakure
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Posted - 2004.04.12 09:10:00 -
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Hehe
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Makeh
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Posted - 2004.04.12 19:09:00 -
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Cost to you. Kestrel and some looted missile launchers, maybe 120,000 isk. Cost to thief 400k for a new indy.
Suicide Kestrel: 120,000 isk
12 Cruise Missiles: 100,000 isk
Time to train a new alt because you're an evil criminal who can't show your face in Empire Space anymore: 2 weeks.
The Happiness that you recieve watching me Warp away to safety with a hold full of liberated ore...
Priceless.
LMAO
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.04.12 19:25:00 -
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Go end yourself.
always wanted to say that!
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal
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Var Talvin
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Posted - 2004.04.12 20:02:00 -
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Whats an ore thief?
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Swift Darklighter
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Posted - 2004.04.12 20:52:00 -
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Whats an ore thief?
That is debatable, but essentially what most people consider an ore thief, is someone who removes ore from a jettison can from corps.
typically the ore thief operates in systems greater then .5 security, as the only way to deter his removal of ore isto shoot him, in which case, Concord will take care of the aggressor most expediously.
"The bottom line is: If you use regular containers to store your ore you assume all the risk." That quote comes straight from the support tab, on the 18th most popular topic "Why is it so easy to steal ore?"
The answer is, quite simple, because players continue to use jettison cans in a way that they were never intended to be used.
I have no problem, clearing space of this "garbage". I love this line in particular:
"Having your valuables floating in space in an unsecure container is equivelant to throwing money on the street. Should you lurk nearby and wait for someone to take the money and then attack him, the police would deal with you, not him. The same goes in Eve. "
So unless you want to lose your ship, you do not shoot he "ore thief". that is why people make suicide kestral pilots.
I just wish someone would actually follow through with the "Im going to put a 1 million bounty on your head" comments
So far I have had at least 5 to date, and my bounty still remains ZERO.
If I see space clutter (jettison cans full of ore) in my region of operation, I WILL take the time to remove it.
Shoot me if you dare!
I do however refrain from stealing from newbs in frigates. That is quite low, as the new guys deserve a fighting chance. Sometimes I will take the ore, and re-jettison just to make a point of it though
So far, 5 cruisers have gone down trying to blow my little ole hoarder hehe. Poor cruisers, the police dont like it when you shoot innocents in secure space
Swift
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Krum Ma'la'ki
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Posted - 2004.04.12 21:36:00 -
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I always love the comment on mining to secure containers. If every mining operation that mined above .5 space were to mine in secure containers. Then the price of trit, pyerite and mex would go up. Maybe even nox. Then we would hear people complain about the prices of ships that out strip the value of insurance.
Unfortunately the logistics of mining to a secure container is a utter nightmare and probably will never happen for bigger operations. For they cannot be anchored next the belt, they need to be 5km from the nearest asteroid, and 5km from each container, they also do not possess the space equivalent to a jetted can, if they did,we would not see as much whinning about ore thieves. Well thats not true.
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