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RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.19 00:45:00 -
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I would like to suggest implementing some kind of resum+¬ system to improve the dynamics of all around recruiting. I see the need for this change for a few reasons:
-The recruitment channel, while designed for just that, usually has around 850-900 members (peak time), 125 of which are actually monitoring the channel, 87 of those 125 are trolling, and two of the remainder are actually looking for a corporation. -Start up corporations have an especially hard time recruiting from the ground up with low member counts, since a lot of players will only prefer to join a corp with a large social base. -Will alleviate spam Conversations at beginner areas to a degree -Will give corporations the chance to ensure a player is just as good a fit for the corp, as the corp is for the player -Give CEOs, Directors, and recruiting personell the chance to take a good look at the potential applicant's capabilities/history/tendencies
This is my idea as to how to actually put this into play:
The resum+¬ page will be included under the 'Recruitment' tab of the 'Corporation' window, and only viewable by members with permissions to accep applications. The actual form, which will be mostly filled out by the applicant, will have spaces for them to fill out somewhat of a bio, as well as what they're looking for in a corp. The rest will be automatically filled in by the game, such as how long this player has been active, employment history/number of corps player has worked for, ships this player is capable of flying, a limited insight into the applicant's trained skills, etc. Understandable that this idea brings a degree of transparency to applicants, but the resum+¬ process would be 100% voluntary. The benefit, however, would be that the applicant's name and information would be readily available to a potential employer, making their odds of finding a corporation that fits much higher. From the employer's end, they could enter search parameters to narrow results among the applicants, such as what type of corp they are looking for, where they are located, time played, etc, or just view all Resum+¬s. As an alternate form of finding a good match, the resum+¬s could automatically be filtered based on the preferences outlined in the corp's recruiting ad, such as the primary mission of the corp, types of players sought, so on and so forth. If an employer decide to hire an applicant, they could choose to extend their offer of employment to the applicant, which would be mailed to them and be available for them to review and accept.
I appreciate your time in viewing my suggestion, and I hope something can be done to this effect. Thank you, RC.
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Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2012.02.19 04:54:00 -
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Holy SH*T a good idea in Features and Ideas +1 from me! |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
684
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Posted - 2012.02.19 05:30:00 -
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Sounds almost like an automated API check of a player. I could see this going somewhere good. I think it needs some polish, but it has some promise. |
leviticus ander
The Scope Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2012.02.19 07:11:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Sounds almost like an automated API check of a player. I could see this going somewhere good. I think it needs some polish, but it has some promise. ya, API + checking their previous corps. and if you're so willing, talking with the previous CEOs of those corps. |
Drop-Me-Own-Stocks Darius
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.19 07:19:00 -
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Wow! This could revolutionize the gameplay worldwide!
Okay, that was a slight exageration. Who would like to buy a melon?Madame, would you like to buy a--...oh. I see you've already got some.Who would like to buy a melon? |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Malicious Mission Murderers
81
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Posted - 2012.02.19 07:19:00 -
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+1 This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:48:00 -
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Thanks for your +1s, I'm hoping this will get noticed by the right people. |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
560
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:40:00 -
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You sir, have come up with a brilliant idea.
Now getting it noticed is going to be a difficult task. I will be sure to offer a bump on this occasionally to keep it rolling.
A resume packet or dossier of a corporation set to join an Alliance would be useful as well.
+1 "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
22
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:57:00 -
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I wholeheartedly endorse this suggestion. It shouldn't take too much effort to impliment either.
Being the CEO of a small corp with a very specific set of entrance criteria which are far from normal this would mean I might actually bother recruiting.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
643
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Posted - 2012.02.22 13:38:00 -
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*checks pulse*
hmm... no, I'm not dead ...
*checks calendar*
hmm... no, it's not April Fools Day...
o_O it really is a good idea in F&I!! [:D]
+1 interwebs to you, sir. |
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RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.24 01:46:00 -
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Once again, I appreciate the positive support, and yes, this is a lame excuse for a bump :) C'mon CCP check it out! |
Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems The Fourth District
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Posted - 2012.02.24 02:00:00 -
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Right now a lot of this is done out-of-game, which can be confusing for new players. Allowing the interested player to fill out information like their peak play times, what areas they are most interested in, where the majority of their skill points are, highlight some of their certificates (remember those), etc will also reduce the workload on player-leaders.
Freeing up player-leaders to get back to FCing, organizing mining ops, detailing industrial plans, and explaining their crazy visions and keeping those new players engaged in the game. Lai Dai Infinity Systems |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
564
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:11:00 -
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This is NOT a lame excuse for a bump.
This system should be implemented as it would do a lot to assist players who are trying to get new corps off the ground, as well as make people seeking corps more available to the cluster. If this system were to come about, I'd suggest a "Job Board" that CEOs could check on a regular basis in-game which would contain up to date resumes. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Kelms
Moonshadow Intelligence
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:28:00 -
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This could use certificates as a means to show an applicant's skills. |
Daeva Teresa
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:32:00 -
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+1 for geat idea |
Nomistrav
Plague Riders
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:42:00 -
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+1
While I'm in here.. Something to clear up the constant show-up's of NPC Corporations in an employment history would be fantastic.. Something to eliminate all the "Aliastra" in my Employment History... |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
564
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:46:00 -
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The resume system should also allow for notes to be added by previous employers as to why they were removed from previous corporations (removed for being Corp spy/thief, inactive, etc). "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Motamar Askold
RONA Midgard Academy RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:03:00 -
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1+ for good idea, i'd like to see this happen. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:55:00 -
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Newbie systems and HQs are quite effective but the main problem is that it is too easy to make a corp while being clueless. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jenshae Chiroptera
462
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Posted - 2012.02.25 14:38:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Newbie systems and HQs are quite effective but the main problem is that it is too easy to make a corp while being clueless.
Just elaborating on that, far too many corps with no hope messing new players up, if it were tougher to start one, there would be less of them and more players joining up with solid corps. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
564
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Posted - 2012.02.25 17:14:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Newbie systems and HQs are quite effective but the main problem is that it is too easy to make a corp while being clueless. Just elaborating on that, far too many corps with no hope messing new players up, if it were tougher to start one, there would be less of them and more players joining up with solid corps.
So basically what you're getting at, is in a sandbox game, where pretty much anything goes, not everyone should be permitted to have a corp.
You are exactly what is wrong with EVE.
- Give me your stuff - Enter Biomass queue over - Go outside for once in your life "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
Mikkael Ethys
Ethys Industrial Random Coalition of Corporations
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Posted - 2012.02.25 23:28:00 -
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Good Idea ! Think that this will be helpful for new corps (like mine) |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.26 10:56:00 -
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Forwarding this idea to our wonderful Team PE caring about the player experience.
Also don't forget to read about the "Ease of EVE" devblog and to comment in its comment thread if you have good ideas, suggestions or questions. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Galphii
Furnulum pani nolo THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2012.02.26 11:28:00 -
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Excellent idea, adds a nice degree of professionalism to the process. +1
Also nice to see CCP does actually read posts on this forum |
Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
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Posted - 2012.02.26 11:49:00 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:The resume system should also allow for notes to be added by previous employers as to why they were removed from previous corporations (removed for being Corp spy/thief, inactive, etc).
an easy way of doing this would be to just have the contact standing of the corp to the individual. that way when you see a list of corps there would be the standing listed next to each one.
-also, i beleive that people should be able to choose how much of their stats would get listed. having every, ship and skill you have listed on a resume' for recruiters is a little too transperant (imo). is a great use for certs. |
Malcom Dax
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.27 14:06:00 -
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This idea is full of win. Anything that makes CEOs and directors lives easier is a good thing in my book. Blacklight Incorporated: Recruiting all pilots for PvE and Industry - UK/EU/US timezone. |
L0rdF1end
STA'IN The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.27 17:47:00 -
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+1 Great idea.
This fixes a lot of time and effort put into recruiters trying to obtain the information that would be either filled out by the applicant or auto collected through the form, Very big win.
If this change goes through there needs to be some big imporovments on the Corp advertising side to match.
For instance..if an applicant filled out his Applicant form he/she should then be able to run the results of his form against a database of potential would be recruiting Corps so he/she can get a shortlist of Corps suited to what he or she is interested in.
That way, he/she can approach those Corps directly via their public channel and then hand in their recruitment applicant form.
If you're going to give this some love please go the whole hog and make sure its not a half ars'd effort.
Ty for reading. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:41:00 -
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Nice! Ill throw in my support for this one! +1 EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:39:00 -
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+1 to you.
Great idea! Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:45:00 -
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+1
I don't see anything other then API checks here... but since those are standard, streamlining them into the game is good. Would be great for CEO's. Also, how about posting resume's to a central database? So not only can corps post adverts, but so can pilots? Make it so. /picard |
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Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:14:00 -
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+1 And maybe call it:
EVE Harmony
Matching players to corps based on logic and facts, rather than hit or miss in the dark.
Sells itself, great idea! |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
570
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:18:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:+1 And maybe call it:
EVE Harmony
Matching players to corps based on logic and facts, rather than hit or miss in the dark.
Sells itself, great idea! Trademark infringement suit in 3... 2... Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Valerius Anthar
Seventh Nation Militia
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:45:00 -
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+1 sir.
I'm actually rather lucky I got contacted by a small-scale pvp corp out of the blue via mail, looking for fresh players. If that hadn't happened, I might have had to use the in game channel, oh god, the horror. I think that a resume would help both corp and players find each other more efficiently without wading through all the nonsense (entertaining though it might be sometimes). Also, I agree with Jen, fewer corp overall but each corp being more solid would be better (instead of hundreds of tiny three men corp which seem so common in game), so maybe some form of restriction on making a corp until one is at a certain time played?
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:49:00 -
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Woah, dev response, sweet. Now if I could just get them to notice my thread ... lol.
In all seriousness, as a Director, I would definitely like to see something like this. API checks and so forth are just such a royal pain to go through, having it all in one spot would be handy. |
Timbuck V
Confrerie de la Lumiere Confrerie de la Lumiere Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.28 11:19:00 -
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+1 Great idea |
CaleAdaire
Research Industry Mining and Support Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2012.02.28 13:05:00 -
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if only we could get the Mittani to protest for this... Please stop asking for new stuff "Cuz it's neat".-á |
PinkKnife
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.28 17:34:00 -
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+1 I'd also suggest adding a certificate list to the resume, so you can see what certs people have skilled up for. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.02.28 17:45:00 -
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Couldn't we just refurbish the job search thingie (recruitment pane in corp tab) that no one in their right mind uses anyway, to include prospective employee CVs, that appropriate (add a few tick-boxes so that a null alliance doesn't vacuum the whole thing every week) corps can then browse when headhunting?
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2012.02.28 20:36:00 -
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Ideally, a system like this could be matched with the corp advert system. My resume is automatically matched with all ads and I get a list of the best corporations that match me. Though, it would be more efficient if the corp ads were always active.
Rather than a 2M list fee on the corp ads, maybe a 2M finders fee per successful applicant? |
RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries Random Coalition of Corporations
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Posted - 2012.02.28 23:13:00 -
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That's actually part of what I proposed, near the end.
" As an alternate form of finding a good match, the resum+¬s could automatically be filtered based on the preferences outlined in the corp's recruiting ad, such as the primary mission of the corp, types of players sought, so on and so forth."
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Tinu Moorhsum
Royal Scientific Research Enterprise
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Posted - 2012.02.29 00:24:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:+1 And maybe call it:
EVE Harmony
EVE-Match or E-Match
Nice idea. +1
T- |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
565
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Posted - 2012.02.29 02:06:00 -
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I support this as recruiting is a gigantic pain in the ****. Especially when you end up with a chat channel filled with nothing but spammers and trolls, and the people actually trying to be recruited are being buried under trolling and spam. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
YuuKnow
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Posted - 2012.02.29 06:10:00 -
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1+ I like it |
RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries Random Coalition of Corporations
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:09:00 -
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Bump |
Sasha Imella
Rhongomiant Legion Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:40:00 -
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Yup +1 |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:09:00 -
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Anyone who doesn't like this is a moron. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
RC Ironside
Massive Dynamic weapons
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Posted - 2012.03.07 22:33:00 -
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Cmon 1 like away from 100! |
Sasha Imella
Massive Dynamic weapons
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Posted - 2012.03.13 00:32:00 -
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Bump |
Leto Aramaus
Grimm Hounds
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Posted - 2012.03.13 01:01:00 -
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+1
To expand on the idea of fixing the recruitment channel... how about a tab in the corp window for recruitment, where instead of all the corps spamming and posting their ads, players would post their Resumes publicly for CEO's and recruiters to browse through, like a monster.com for EVE.
Anyone? |
Ja'thaal Deathbringer
Obsidian Innovations
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Posted - 2012.03.15 15:52:00 -
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Definite +1, this is an excellent idea.
Would make recruiting a lot easier because you could just look at what they're like without having to take them on their word. That turns out bad more often than you'd think, trust me. |
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.03.15 18:35:00 -
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+1 x whatever means is needed to become reality.
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RC Ironside
Massive Dynamic weapons
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:53:00 -
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Bump |
Aidan Patrick
Aldebaran Foundation Tauri Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 03:37:00 -
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+1 from me as well. Primarily I'd be interested in searching for potential recruits through a system similar to how they can search for corps. Make the search a two way street instead of having recruiters sit in a channel. [ [ALDEB] Aldebaran Foundation (Recruiting Industry & PvE Players) [HISEC] ] |
Dengen Krastinov
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:55:00 -
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+1 Good idea. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:40:00 -
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Just read, the resume idea is excellent. Essentially bringing (as mentioned by many others) the API check into the game. It is standard for any major corporations. Of course there probably are things that from the sandbox play couldnt be (checking for mails or alts) but if there were checkboxes, similar to the api it would help. Just apply, fill some words, check off what to auto ad, every corp HR person loves you. If it was made to interface with the API, then half of the work is already done! |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2012.03.30 07:16:00 -
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we almost got what we wanted. :Z the approval proces sis a simple up or down vote.
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RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.30 19:50:00 -
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Bump |
PinkKnife
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.31 17:37:00 -
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I can't like it twice |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.31 21:37:00 -
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I like the idea. Ideally there would be a matching system that recommends guilds :p to pilots and pilots to guilds.
Yes I used the word guilds on purpose, punks. All I hear is goons this and goons that, it's like you people are the villiagers from goons village. |
Loius Woo
PATRIOT KNIGHTS
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Posted - 2012.05.31 22:55:00 -
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+1
Great idea. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
690
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Posted - 2012.05.31 23:24:00 -
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This could also be expanded to a resume for corps looking for an alliance. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
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Posted - 2012.06.01 12:48:00 -
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Ok so this is basically a reverse corp recruitment ad with the player advertising for a corp instead of the corp advertising for players? I like this general idea. I don't think seeing exact skills should be part of it though, I think seeing certificates the pilot holds would be a better way of doing it.
Additionally I think that this should be a permanent thing. As in the player doesn't fill it in every time he advertises, but instead should be persistent (and accessible for change at any point and therefore could be outdated if the player forgets or chooses not to update it) and "attachable" to a corp application. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2012.06.01 13:28:00 -
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I don't think it will remove the desire for API checks, as people will still want to have a look at what sort of alts you have. A six-month-old character with a four-year-old alt is...suspicious. There's no good way to present that information in game without utterly breaking immersion AND violating what I consider to be private information. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Ayame Yoshida
Republic 1st Fleet
8
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Posted - 2012.06.01 13:50:00 -
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Which is why I think that certificates rather than skills is the way to go in all honesty. Also they could make the certificate section like the corp skills section where you have to "update with my skills" only in this case it would be "update with my certificates". I think the general idea of using a resume as a reverse corp advert is a great idea, and the ability to attach the resume to a corp application means you don't have to write out a corp application each time. What actually becomes part of the resume system is something else entirely. Hopefully they can make it something better than just a text box. |
RC Ironside
Rhongomiant Legion Industries ESS Empire
70
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Posted - 2012.06.10 16:00:00 -
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I think the certificate thing is a great idea. I wouldn't intend for this system to completely expose a toon, since piracy and spying is a part of the great sandbox called EVE, but at least some sort of implement to keep 'em honest would be nice. Thanks for the +1s. Dev commented a while ago, hope they're taking it seriously. |
Acot Voth
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.06.10 17:19:00 -
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+1 |
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