Originally by: 7sunami

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Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 03:55:13
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 03:54:44

Originally by: Hannobaal

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Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/03/2008 03:52:16



All the ones that are on that list that are not involved in the war right now, weren't involved 1 month ago either.

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Think Fountain

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Originally by: kublai

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Art of War morally supports BoB \o/

We also try to kill as many coalition as we can, but as we're low sec newbies we'd never dare venture into delve, heavens!

That said we don't have any standings so I guess we don't count *wanders back to his asteroid belt*

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Originally by: keelem

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Edited by: keelem on 03/03/2008 06:10:17
Many of those coalition alliances are innacurate. For example, I don't see how you can include exceed as they were actively camping the pipe during our nol invasion and killing our reinforcements.

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Originally by: 7sunami

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Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 07:02:05
Work in Progress. Should be up to date now

* Format: Year-Month-Day

08-03-03

Active (20 Alliances)
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Goonswarm 5719
Pure2125


Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate1832
Morsus Mihi1655
Imperial Republic of the North1655
Red Alliance1614
Ultima Rati01529
Tau Ceti Federation 1410
Ka-Tet1309
Mostly Harmless1195
Razor Alliance1114
Ka-Tet1070
Rule of Three958
Black-Out773
Mercenary Coalition697
Pandemic Legion412
Coven383
KIA Alliance361
Daisho Syndicate332
KIN-DZA-DZA87
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total26230


Sometimes (19 Alliances)
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Brutally Clever Empire2933
Roadkill1911
Smash Alliance1829
Intrepid Crossing1452
Hydra Alliance1415
Against All Authorities1266
United Legion1170
Black Star Alliance995
Fang Alliance798
Venom Alliance775
Brother of Steel589
Kraftwerk361
Son of Tangra333
Legion of xxDeathXX328
Soul of Fountain296
Vae Victus295
Ministry of Amerrian Secret Service278
Thorn Alliance251
VooDoo Technologies227
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total17502


Remove from the Coalition
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Curatores Veritatis Alliance 669
Dark Matter Coalition 497
Exceed408
Evoke350
Outbreak (corp)160
Knights of SoutherncrossDEAD
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total 2084

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Originally by: 7sunami

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Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 07:00:19
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 06:23:03

Originally by: keelem

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Edited by: keelem on 03/03/2008 06:10:17
Many of those coalition alliances are innacurate. For example, I don't see how you can include exceed as they were actively camping the pipe during our nol invasion and killing our reinforcements.

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Exceed made a standing reset recently so they will be removed. Exceed was included because they were blue to Coalition about a month ago

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Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan

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Woops

My point here is this, they had all the oportunities that we did, they maybe mismanaged their allies slighly and the list grew short.

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Originally by: Yogos

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Inserting c0ven into coalition is little to much I think.
Fact it that MC give us invitation on one party in QY6 we fight there but party is over and we are back in Stain.

Atm we have no interest in attacking BoB.

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Originally by: 7sunami

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I don't think you want to go down that road, because if I start listing all the alliances that Coalition are blue to, but not involved in the war, the numbers will be alot higher

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Originally by: marakor

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Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:21:56
You can put up list after list or map after map but the fact is that the coalition has always outnumbered BOB and their pets at least 2 or 3-1 and normally a lot higher.

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Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: marakor

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You can put up list after list or map after map but the fact is that the coalition has always outnumbered BOB and their pets at least 2 or 3-1 and normally a lot higher.

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Gotta agree with marakor on this one. Keep your stupid facts and data out of here, we need to go from the heart on this, and my heart tells me BoB has been boldly holding off the ravenous coalition with a mere 5 members. I'd place the coalition at somewhere around 500,000 individual members on the conservative side, possibly close to a million on the extreme side.

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Originally by: marakor

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Oh dear orangir-tang has dropped his dolly again and gone off the deep end.

It realy bites you so much that BOB/TRI and others have the respect you claim over and over not to care about or want does'nt it.

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Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: marakor

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Oh dear orangir-tang has dropped his dolly again and gone off the deep end.

It realy bites you so much that BOB/TRI and others have the respect you claim over and over not to care about or want does'nt it.

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What? I was attempting a exaggerated form of drama bomb in a low brow attempt to deflect the truth.

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Originally by: marakor

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Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:52:00

Originally by: Orangir

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What? I was attempting a exaggerated form of drama bomb in a low brow attempt to deflect the truth.

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fxt.

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Originally by: Baxalusx

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Yes, the Coalition in general are vastly better at diplomacy and cooperating with allies than BoB is/was. Why does this point merit continuous repetition?

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Originally by: Siddy

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Originally by: kublai

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Art of War morally supports BoB \o/

We also try to kill as many coalition as we can, but as we're low sec newbies we'd never dare venture into delve, heavens!

That said we don't have any standings so I guess we don't count *wanders back to his asteroid belt*

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you do that only cause you want into my pants :/

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Originally by: marakor

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Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 10:35:31

Originally by: Baxalusx

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Yes, the Coalition in general are vastly better at diplomacy and cooperating with allies than BoB is/was. Why does this point merit continuous repetition?

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Keep dreaming bud it was the ass kickings that BOB dished out and the fear the larger alliances in eve had of losing their space to them that created the coalition not you or your claimed diplomacy skills. Unless you can give another reason why so many have gone home now BOB is no longer a threat to their systems, perhaps you can use your uber diplo skill to get them back to delve.

Oh let me guess you "do not want/need them in delve anyway" so there is no need for you to whip out your "big gun" diplomatic skills.

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Originally by: Baxalusx

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Yes, the Coalition in general are vastly better at diplomacy and cooperating with allies than BoB is/was. Why does this point merit continuous repetition?

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Originally by: Baxalusx

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Yes, BoB's mistakes created the Coalition that is now killing them. As a direct result of BoB's inability and unwillingness to cooperate with anyone, we developed extremely efficient venues of communication and very good relationships with our allies. BoB are tactically skilled and often win on the field, but we have total supremacy in every other arena from logistics to diplomacy.

It's true that in many ways, we owe our competences and dedication to BoB's incompetences and arrogance, and while their willingness to fight is admirable and we're grateful for their stupidity, we're still going to make full use of their ineptitude outside the actual field of battle to destroy them, like we have been for the past year.

Edit: What you don't seem to understand is that most of us do acknowledge that BoB is outnumbered and that BoB is quite tactically skilled, we just also see that that is no longer enough to win.

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Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan

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Woops



Originally by: NI'shka Delmante
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What I find incredible about the whole southern war is that people have such short memories, many are making out that Goons, RA et al are all winning due to huge numbers etc. Let's not forget how this all started:

In the RED corner.
BoB & Allies Standing List


BOB
= Black Eclipse [BNC.E]
= Black Nova Corp [BNC]
= Destructive Influence [DICE]
= Evolution [EVOL]
= Reikoku [RKK]
= Relentless Construction [RKK.C]
= TAOSP [TAOSP]
= Tin Foil [HAT..]

Corps
= Arcane technologies [ATUK]
= Constructive Influence [COIN]
= Exile Strike Team [EXILE]
= Goddess of EvE [KRYZ]
= Gobshyte Inc. [-GSI-]
= Lions Emporium [POOT]
= Morne Attitude
= Space Monkeys
= True Salvations - (ShakaZ XIV)
= Vronsky Bros and Sons


Delve
= Omerta Syndicate - (Yuki Li)
= Exuro Mortis - (Righteous Fury)


Esoteria
= Digital Fury Corp (PRIMARY: Commander Solo, or Tonelock, SECONDARY: Gillard)
= Executive Outcomes - (Cosmo Raata / Andar Kreone)
= Miners with Attitude - (Jake Noble)
= Pyrrhus Sicarii [OHSHT] - (Prefect Six)

Fethyabolis
= Boob Heads [BOOB.] - (kenbadger)
= Git-R-Dun - (Col Mammoth)
= Gods of Night and Day - (Meriones)
= Nova Lusitania [NoLu] - (Luso)
= QUANT corp. (QTC) -
= [DICE] Twister quit
= QUANT corp. (QTC) - (Pwett)
= Red Moon Federation - (James Britanicus, Omatje)
= R I S E - (Eternal Fury, Rhohan, LoKesh, or Baymm)
= The Neo Syndicate - (Nival) (Caelestis Hawkeye)

Fountain
= Aftermath Alliance
= Corelum Syndicate (Joshua Foiritain)
= M'8's (Yitro)
= OEC [o3c] - (Karash Amerius)
= Shadow of Darkness
= Xelas Alliance (Blue Flame)
= Axiom Empire
= YouWhat

Paragon Soul
= Dark Rising - (Mitch Taylor)
= Gentlemen O'Fortune [GEOF] - (Si Brows)
= Quasar Inc [.QSR.] - (Torpedo CSR)
= Southern Cross Alliance - (Sharmina)

Period Basis
= Dark and Light Inc - (Nemon V3)
= GRUNTFUTTOCKS
= Mercenary Coalition [BDCI, CONIN, FRICK, ETNY]
= Reddish Bears [RBS] - (WitchGhost)
= Southern Tactical Fighter Unit - (Mazira)

Querious
= British Space Corporation - (Krilos Nereth)
= Dawn of Empire (DAOE)
= Enfuria - (Conor Steel)
= Firmus Ixion (Avernus)
= Flashtrooper Corp - (Ft_eastwood)
= Folsom Technologies - (xtcy)
= FLASHTROOPER CORP [FTFL] - FT_Eastwood
= Four Horsemen [LIH]
= Freelancing Corp [PAUL]
= Gunboat Diplomacy - (spuffofdog) (Nocturne Mra'tharden) (Avril Dewar)
= High Guardians of Gallente - (Ze'dex)
= Phoenix Knights - (franny)
= Satans Delivery Boys [SADB] - (F1Hydro)
= Star Blood Industry - (Abygaelle)
= Requiem-Aeternam - (Gaaskel and Axeon)
= The Two Thrones - (Anhela)

Scalding Pass
= Interdiction

Pure Blind and the surrounding Regions
= YouWhat
= Axiom Empire
= Xelas Alliance

Unknown Locations
= Lotka Volterra v rumored to be moving to Stain
= Digital Renegades
= Fallen Souls
= Minmatar *** Rights League
= Fatal Alliance
= Southern Connection
= Distant Star Alliance
= Chorus of Dawn

Surrendered
= Interstellar Starbase Syndicate: Surrendered to KOS

My point here is this, they had all the oportunities that we did, they maybe mismanaged their allies slighly and the list grew short.

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