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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:03:56
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:03:48
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 08:57:24
Long post, good for reading at work. Short version... We came, we saw, we got podded... over and over and over... But learned and had fun. 
On March 4 I held an event for members called CAS Combat Day. Many people don't realize that NPC corps such as CAS actually are communities of their own. I want to give CAS members the opertunity to step out of their usual game play and experience Eve from a different perspective. The intent was to take people who had little to no experience with PvP and take them out into zero security space and get them some pvp experience. We were following the Hydra principal that Agony Unleashed uses in their player versus player university classes. Which means all pilots would be basically flying T1 frigates. Cheap ships that even month old players could afford to lose.
Total attendance was 8 actives in fleet and one pilot in fleet chat but in empire space. A bit low to be truly effective but we were were heading out in any case.
At 1800 hrs Eve time I gave everyone the rally system which was Orvolle. The people they were interested in going had haulers filled with ships and supplies set up in advance. Once they knew where the rally system was they all began to arrive. Between 1800 hrs and 1900 hrs people prepared their ships and we had a brief overview of making and using tactical bookmarks. Something that I think didn't quite click until after we got live fire experience using them in zero security space. After everyone had arrived and we had gotten Eve voice up and we were ready to head out.
Note: when logging in to double check ship spellings for this I was greeted by a pilot who was at the event. Hey told me that the tactical bookmark/directional scanner lesson got them past 2 bubble camps on their way out of 0.0. Voot!!!
We were using Eve voice so no one had to download any additional software and didn't require server access somewhere out there for either teamspeak or vent. Eve voice actually worked quite well. One pilot had a technical problem that had something to do with their hardware drivers which eventually was resolved. We all found the quality of Eve voice to be excellent and very easy to use. Teamspeak/Vent users said the quality was higher then they were use too.
Our objective is to get through the PF-346 system and into Syndicate. I've done some prep work in advance to reduce the possibility of running into gate camps. I taken a pilot with no skills and repeatedly flew them into the system. As they appear in the PF-346 system whoever was gate camping at the time would lock the ship then pop in and pod the pilot. Doing this repeatedly artificially inflates the number of ships destroyed and pod kills that show up in the map. This reduces traffic for people who bother to look at the map. End result is that with reduced traffic campers get bored and eventually leave. The dastardly thing about this tactic is the gate campers screw themselves over. After the fifth or sixth time of blowing up the same pilot in Ibis who made no attempt to evade or escape one would think they would think something was up. End result was at the time that we made our run through PF 346 there were a few assorted pilots scampering about but no active gate camps.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 08:58:48
With everyone ready we approached the PF 346 gate and made our way through. I proceeded to work to fleet to a safe spot behind the FD-MLJ gate. With the gate to clear I warped the fleet to the gate. Upon reaching the gate we could see that there was a warp bubble 1On March 4 I held an event for members called CAS Combat Day. Many people don't realize that NPC corps such as CAS actually are communities of their own. I want to give CAS members the opertunity to step out of their usual game play and experience Eve from a different perspective. The intent was to take people who had little to no experience with PvP and take them out into zero security space and get them some pvp experience. We were following the Hydra principal that Agony Unleashed uses in their player versus player university classes. Which means all pilots would be basically flying T1 frigates. Cheap ships that even month old players could afford to lose.00 km in the direction of Orvolle. Our tactical bookmark allowed us to bypass being trapped in a bubble. There were three ships that were camping the bubble. I was a bit concerned about them so I simply had the fleet jump straight through to FD-MLJ. This was a rather huge mistake...
Upon loading the screen in FD-MLJ I saw that there were 18 ships sitting on the gate. We had little problem...
Major fleet commander error in not sending a scout through the gate in advance. Not exactly sure what happened next but I believe one of the pilots broke rank and de-cloaked. One of the two interdictiors that were with that fleet dropped a bubble Here was our little CAS fleet diving headfirst into the deep into the ocean. With a bubble up I gave a command for everybody to break and run. To try and get outside the bubble and warp to any location they could. I was fortunate enough to only be 500m from the edge of the bubble. Being in Helios with a covert ops cloak it was fairly easy for me to get out of the bubble and get a safe distance away. I heard one of the fleet members requesting clarification on what to do. First time in a fleet action against other players and first time dealing with a warp the bubble. I told him to fly away from the gate and try o warp wherever he can get to. He was actually one of the pilots to make it out.
Unfortunately two of our members, Boiglio and Rick Skynight, were trapped in the bubble and I sat rather helplessly watching them get popped and podded. Not only was Rick flying the only other T2 ship, a Kitsune, but he also jumped into the wrong clone that morning and lost a rather large amount of ISK worth of implants when he was podded.
I ordered all of the fleet members that were still in FD-MLJ to dock at the station. Boiglio and Rick were back in the Orvolle updating their clones and getting in replacement frigates. I docked to the station with the rest of the CAS members in FD-MLJ. We took stock of the situation. With two members back on the wrong side of PF-346 with small problem. We needed to get them back across. I headed back out my Hileos. I want to safe spot near the gate to scan it at about this time the fleet that was on the gate jumped out of the system. They did not go in the PF 346 though. Lucky for us. Would have been luckier for us if they weren't in FD-MLJ when we had jumped in.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:14:00
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:03:56
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:03:48
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 08:57:24
Long post, good for reading at work. Short version... We came, we saw, we got podded... over and over and over... But learned and had fun.
On March 4 I held an event for members called CAS Combat Day. Many people don't realize that NPC corps such as CAS actually are communities of their own. I want to give CAS members the opertunity to step out of their usual game play and experience Eve from a different perspective. The intent was to take people who had little to no experience with PvP and take them out into zero security space and get them some pvp experience. We were following the Hydra principal that Agony Unleashed uses in their player versus player university classes. Which means all pilots would be basically flying T1 frigates. Cheap ships that even month old players could afford to lose.
Total attendance was 8 actives in fleet and one pilot in fleet chat but in empire space. A bit low to be truly effective but we were were heading out in any case.
At 1800 hrs Eve time I gave everyone the rally system which was Orvolle. The people that were interested in going had haulers filled with ships and supplies set up in advance. Once they knew where the rally system was they all began to arrive. Between 1800 hrs and 1900 hrs people prepared their ships and we had a brief overview of making and using tactical bookmarks. Something that I think didn't quite click until after we got live fire experience using them in zero security space. After everyone had arrived and we had gotten Eve voice up and we were ready to head out.
Note: when logging in to double check ship spellings for this I was greeted by a pilot who was at the event. Hey told me that the tactical bookmark/directional scanner lesson got them past 2 bubble camps on their way out of 0.0. Voot!!!
We were using Eve voice so no one had to download any additional software and didn't require server access somewhere out there for either teamspeak or vent. Eve voice actually worked quite well. One pilot had a technical problem that had something to do with their hardware drivers which eventually was resolved. We all found the quality of Eve voice to be excellent and very easy to use. Teamspeak/Vent users said the quality was higher then they were use too.
Our objective is to get through the PF-346 system and into Syndicate. I've done some prep work in advance to reduce the possibility of running into gate camps. I taken a pilot with no skills and repeatedly flew them into the system. As they appear in the PF-346 system whoever was gate camping at the time would lock the ship then pop in and pod the pilot. Doing this repeatedly artificially inflates the number of ships destroyed and pod kills that show up in the map. This reduces traffic for people who bother to look at the map. End result is that with reduced traffic campers get bored and eventually leave. The dastardly thing about this tactic is the gate campers screw themselves over. After the fifth or sixth time of blowing up the same pilot in Ibis who made no attempt to evade or escape one would think they would think something was up. End result was at the time that we made our run through PF 346 there were a few assorted pilots scampering about but no active gate camps.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 08:58:48
With everyone ready we approached the PF 346 gate and made our way through. I proceeded to work to fleet to a safe spot behind the FD-MLJ gate. With the gate to clear I warped the fleet to the gate. Upon reaching the gate we could see that there was a warp bubble 1On March 4 I held an event for members called CAS Combat Day. Many people don't realize that NPC corps such as CAS actually are communities of their own. I want to give CAS members the opertunity to step out of their usual game play and experience Eve from a different perspective. The intent was to take people who had little to no experience with PvP and take them out into zero security space and get them some pvp experience. We were following the Hydra principal that Agony Unleashed uses in their player versus player university classes. Which means all pilots would be basically flying T1 frigates. Cheap ships that even month old players could afford to lose.00 km in the direction of Orvolle. Our tactical bookmark allowed us to bypass being trapped in a bubble. There were three ships that were camping the bubble. I was a bit concerned about them so I simply had the fleet jump straight through to FD-MLJ. This was a rather huge mistake...
Upon loading the screen in FD-MLJ I saw that there were 18 ships sitting on the gate. We had little problem...
Major fleet commander error in not sending a scout through the gate in advance. Not exactly sure what happened next but I believe one of the pilots broke rank and de-cloaked. One of the two interdictiors that were with that fleet dropped a bubble Here was our little CAS fleet diving headfirst into the deep into the ocean. With a bubble up I gave a command for everybody to break and run. To try and get outside the bubble and warp to any location they could. I was fortunate enough to only be 500m from the edge of the bubble. Being in Helios with a covert ops cloak it was fairly easy for me to get out of the bubble and get a safe distance away. I heard one of the fleet members requesting clarification on what to do. First time in a fleet action against other players and first time dealing with a warp the bubble. I told him to fly away from the gate and try o warp wherever he can get to. He was actually one of the pilots to make it out.
Unfortunately two of our members, Boiglio and Rick Skynight, were trapped in the bubble and I sat rather helplessly watching them get popped and podded. Not only was Rick flying the only other T2 ship, a Kitsune, but he also jumped into the wrong clone that morning and lost a rather large amount of ISK worth of implants when he was podded.
I ordered all of the fleet members that were still in FD-MLJ to dock at the station. Boiglio and Rick were back in the Orvolle updating their clones and getting in replacement frigates. I docked to the station with the rest of the CAS members in FD-MLJ. We took stock of the situation. With two members back on the wrong side of PF-346 with small problem. We needed to get them back across. I headed back out my Hileos. I want to safe spot near the gate to scan it at about this time the fleet that was on the gate jumped out of the system. They did not go in the PF 346 though. Lucky for us. Would have been luckier for us if they weren't in FD-MLJ when we had jumped in.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 08:59:42
I entered in the PF 346 and while there was still a few people flitting around there wasn't any real active gate camping going on. Our two pilots in Orvolle prep their ships and got back on the gate into PF-346 I was watching the gate and there was it only a single ship on the gate. It was an interdictor but I had never had issues of warping away from interdictor with a frigate so I wasn't really worried. I gave the order to jump through. And fortunately forgotten in that one of the pilots, Rick Skynight, was the one that didn't have the Eve voice running. The command to warp was given but they didn't warp together and the interdictor dropped a bubble and trapped Rick. Boiglio managed to warp out and to the FD-MLJ gate. Rick on the other hand got popped and podded again. As I saw Rick's pot going up I heard Boiglio say over Eve voice that she was going down. Was at this time that I remembered that one, I told her to warp to the FD-MLJ gate and two there was that small warp bubble 100 km off the gate. I knew that's where she was trapped.
For some crazy reason I warped directly to the gate knowing I'd hit that bubble. I arrived in cloak just in time to see a nemesis recloaking on the edge of the bubble. Lots a little pilots causing problems. With Boiglio and Rick back in Orvolle again we had to start all over. For some reason you would think third time is a charm well this time it wasn't.
Basically it came down to the fact that I saw a small group of four ships camping the Orvolle gate. A fifth ship warped to the gate and got trapped in a small warp bubble that was placed above the gate. I saw the drones from the four ships go after the fifth and just arrived. I had assumed that that was them attacking another player. That made a good time for the two frigates to jump in while the gate camp was distracted. Now those four players were attacking the fifth that had just arrived. The only problem is that fifth ship was actually a member of the corp.
Just after giving the command and seeing the gate cycle the drones came back and the camp is ready for the frigates once again. It was then I relised I goofed again. Popped podded back to the beginning.
After this, bang your head on the desk moment, I finally realized that I was making a newbie mistake is a flight commander. I quickly ordered the two stranded pilots simply hop in the shuttle's. They thought it was a strange request but I repeated that they needed to get into shuttles. After getting their shuttles and warping to standby positions on the gate we are ready to go in a fourth time. The gate camp was there again but this time I used my fleet commander capabilities to warp everyone is a group. The shuttle's agility was high enough so the gate campers didn't have the ability to react to them de-cloaking and warping off. Group warp for the win. After all this we finally got those two pilots into FD-MLJ with the rest of the fleet.
I'd done some logistics in advance of this event and had a number of replacement frigates with fittings on hand in the system nearby. So the two pilots and shuttles could reequip at that station. All we had to do was get our fleet there. That station also had medical facilities so that was where we were going to transfer our clones to. FD-MLJ was quiet and we moved out. I jumped into the next system with my Helios since with the covert ops cloak I had the best chance of surviving gate camp. Additionally I was the only pilot that had my med clone in Syndicate. I jumped through there were a number of pilots in the system but the gate was clear. We only needed a moment to jump through and move on so I gave the order to jump. Timing is everything...
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:56:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 08:59:42
I entered in the PF 346 and while there was still a few people flitting around there wasn't any real active gate camping going on. Our two pilots in Orvolle prep their ships and got back on the gate into PF-346 I was watching the gate and there was it only a single ship on the gate. It was an interdictor but I had never had issues of warping away from interdictor with a frigate so I wasn't really worried. I gave the order to jump through. And fortunately forgotten in that one of the pilots, Rick Skynight, was the one that didn't have the Eve voice running. The command to warp was given but they didn't warp together and the interdictor dropped a bubble and trapped Rick. Boiglio managed to warp out and to the FD-MLJ gate. Rick on the other hand got popped and podded again. As I saw Rick's pot going up I heard Boiglio say over Eve voice that she was going down. Was at this time that I remembered that one, I told her to warp to the FD-MLJ gate and two there was that small warp bubble 100 km off the gate. I knew that's where she was trapped.
For some crazy reason I warped directly to the gate knowing I'd hit that bubble. I arrived in cloak just in time to see a nemesis recloaking on the edge of the bubble. Lots a little pilots causing problems. With Boiglio and Rick back in Orvolle again we had to start all over. For some reason you would think third time is a charm well this time it wasn't.
Basically it came down to the fact that I saw a small group of four ships camping the Orvolle gate. A fifth ship warped to the gate and got trapped in a small warp bubble that was placed above the gate. I saw the drones from the four ships go after the fifth and just arrived. I had assumed that that was them attacking another player. That made a good time for the two frigates to jump in while the gate camp was distracted. Now those four players were attacking the fifth that had just arrived. The only problem is that fifth ship was actually a member of the corp.
Just after giving the command and seeing the gate cycle the drones came back and the camp is ready for the frigates once again. It was then I relised I goofed again. Popped podded back to the beginning.
After this, bang your head on the desk moment, I finally realized that I was making a newbie mistake is a flight commander. I quickly ordered the two stranded pilots simply hop in the shuttle's. They thought it was a strange request but I repeated that they needed to get into shuttles. After getting their shuttles and warping to standby positions on the gate we are ready to go in a fourth time. The gate camp was there again but this time I used my fleet commander capabilities to warp everyone is a group. The shuttle's agility was high enough so the gate campers didn't have the ability to react to them de-cloaking and warping off. Group warp for the win. After all this we finally got those two pilots into FD-MLJ with the rest of the fleet.
I'd done some logistics in advance of this event and had a number of replacement frigates with fittings on hand in the system nearby. So the two pilots and shuttles could reequip at that station. All we had to do was get our fleet there. That station also had medical facilities so that was where we were going to transfer our clones to. FD-MLJ was quiet and we moved out. I jumped into the next system with my Helios since with the covert ops cloak I had the best chance of surviving gate camp. Additionally I was the only pilot that had my med clone in Syndicate. I jumped through there were a number of pilots in the system but the gate was clear. We only needed a moment to jump through and move on so I gave the order to jump. Timing is everything...
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:01:02
At that moment five ships warped to the gate. I gave the order to hold. Some pilots had already executed the jump others did not. The pilots to did not I ordered to warp back to the station in FD-MLJ. To the remainder that had just jumped in I ordered to dock at the station in the system. I de-cloaked from the jump and headed to the gateing distracted trying to get everyone else to safety I forgot that I had a covert ops cloak and to turn it on. The single advantage is that they targeted my ship rather than the others and everyone got away accept me who got popped and podded. Fortunately I had ships and a clone a few jumps away.
Much to my surprise one of the members recognized my name from the time I spent in Syndicate over a year earlier. I remembered to him as well, friendly player but a hostile pilot.
I updated my clone hopped into another frigate. Went back to that system collected the pilots from the station and brought them that back to our base of operations. They started selecting and outfitting their replacement ships, two of the three pilots were Boiglio and Rick in their shuttles. I then went off to FD-MLJ to collect the remainder of the fleet. Passing through the gate on one side were the five pilots that took out my Helios. On the other side were five or six pilots hanging on the gate. In my time in Syndicate a year earlier I'd never seen so many pilots in such a small number of systems in such a short time. It was crazy.
I collected the rest of the group and had them pass through the fight and make it back to our base of operations. One of the pilots missed the order to undock and was left behind. And now comes the ironic part of the day. New arrivals were always welcome and Sassle was one of those. While all this was going on he made his way to Orvolle to try and catch up with us. As I was heading back to pick up the member that was left behind I saw Sassle flyby and jump through the gate I was on. I was shocked. I asked him how he had gotten there. His response was, "I just flew through.". I wanted to strangle him. The past hour and a half we've been trying to punch her way through multiple fleets sitting on gates and he just casually flew through it all without a care in the world. And yet again the lesson is driven home, timing is everything.
I collected the remaining member in FD-MLJ and we had everyone at our base of operations. Everyone updated and set their clone to the station. Finally two and a half hours after the start time we were at the position where I'd expected us to be 10 to 15 minutes in.
We began to move deeper into Syndicate. Another member we had picked up along the way was Mornie II. he was a shuttle because he didn't have the skills to build a fly a frigate. He logged onto his main to turn off skill training so it could start to train the frigate skill. Since he was a shuttle, got a replacement clone free and had some prior experience he was our scout. The next several systems were largely uneventful. We encountered other pilots but were unable to actually engage anyone. Upon entering my former home system in Syndicate we hung on the gate. Our arrival was greeted with an interdictor.
I ordered an attack in the game was afoot. Our lack of numbers showed through here. We had nine people in the fleet channel but only eight were actually along for the ride. The ninth. C'happa'ii Was in empire space but with us in spirit. Additionally my inexperience at handling fleet logistics meant that while I did provide rocket and missile launchers for the ships that needed them I've managed to forget to bring rockets and missiles for them to use... So we had a bunch of T1 frigates, and the Griffin and Tristan's flying without ammo for their launchers. We were short on numbers and lacking on DPS but with plenty of gumption.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:01:40
The attack and not go well we did next to no damage to the interdictor and battle cruiser warped in for support. Ships were going boom everywhere. Unfortunately they were all CAS ships. For some reason the interdictor didn't drop a bubble. That allowed to just about everyone to make it out in either their ship or pod. Nonetheless it was a good experience. Because unlike the previous massacres in this one we actually had the opportunity to do a little pew pew pew. While our attack was ineffectual we actually did attack. We ended the affair with a positive outlook on it.
Some of the members had seen "gf" in local chat during the previous massacres. When it was explained that gf meant "good fight" they got a little miffed. They weren't good fights from our fleets perspective. The good fight comment in local felt more of an insult then the salute for showing up and engaging that was meant to be. After this engagement with the battle cruiser and interdictor the "gf" in local was finally seen more along the lines of what it was meant to mean. Because this time we actually had the chance to fight. Lost, but at least had fought.
I liquidated most of my assets in the system months ago but still had a few ships remaining. Unfortunately no one else could fly Gallante assault frigates except me. So the only ship that was added to the fleet was a pvp fitted Celestis and an old Ishkur of mine that I flew. We took a little down time and then headed out to go pick up pilot that had been podded in the previous engagement. And with that headed deeper into Syndicate. After making a lot of jumps and having no joy we were near enough to a system that was selling in Atron. Mornie II by this time had completed training Frigate II and was able to fly one. I brought in fittings from our base of operations and he outfited the ship is a tackler. And we were on our way again.
We got some practice using the directional scanner trying to find pilots in the systems we passed through. Unfortunately were unable to find them or they were at a POS. But by this time we had got a fair amount of experience maneuvering is a fleet, scouting and using the directional scanner. While wasn't an exciting time for the event the practical experience was valuable. We headed deeper into zero security space heading towards outer ring. We were approaching a system, 4C-B7X, that had 30 plus pilots and it. It made me a little uncomfortable bringing such a small fleet through that system. But the whole day was about experience, success purely defined by taking out other ships was not the intent. A new experience and the opportunity to learn about aspects of Eve that CAS members would not normally have the opportunity to experience was the order of the day.
We ran into a few pilots but had been unable to nail any down. We spent a little too much time in the systems approaching that crowded system. Those pilots had enough for warning to put together a small fleet. We warped on to a gate and found a Brutix there. I gave the order to attack and engage and the fight was on. I knew full well that this was bait. But I felt our fleet needed the action. The Brutix's support actually took a little while to get there. Our mighty little fleet managed to get it to about 70% armor before the first of his support arrived.
My Ishkur was taking heavy damage due to being webbed. The Griffin using its ECM broke the battle cruiser's target locks and saved my hide. At this time a crow warped in and started to engage. My Ishkur apparently was primary. The crow came after me. I redirected my drones to go after the crow who promptly flew off. While it meant my drones weren't damaging the battle cruiser nor the crow due to the crows speed it removed the last bit of DPS that was on my ship. At that moment my ship had had about 4% armor 20% hull left.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:58:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:01:02
At that moment five ships warped to the gate. I gave the order to hold. Some pilots had already executed the jump others did not. The pilots to did not I ordered to warp back to the station in FD-MLJ. To the remainder that had just jumped in I ordered to dock at the station in the system. I de-cloaked from the jump and headed to the gateing distracted trying to get everyone else to safety I forgot that I had a covert ops cloak and to turn it on. The single advantage is that they targeted my ship rather than the others and everyone got away accept me who got popped and podded. Fortunately I had ships and a clone a few jumps away.
Much to my surprise one of the members recognized my name from the time I spent in Syndicate over a year earlier. I remembered to him as well, friendly player but a hostile pilot.
I updated my clone hopped into another frigate. Went back to that system collected the pilots from the station and brought them that back to our base of operations. They started selecting and outfitting their replacement ships, two of the three pilots were Boiglio and Rick in their shuttles. I then went off to FD-MLJ to collect the remainder of the fleet. Passing through the gate on one side were the five pilots that took out my Helios. On the other side were five or six pilots hanging on the gate. In my time in Syndicate a year earlier I'd never seen so many pilots in such a small number of systems in such a short time. It was crazy.
I collected the rest of the group and had them pass through the fight and make it back to our base of operations. One of the pilots missed the order to undock and was left behind. And now comes the ironic part of the day. New arrivals were always welcome and Sassle was one of those. While all this was going on he made his way to Orvolle to try and catch up with us. As I was heading back to pick up the member that was left behind I saw Sassle flyby and jump through the gate I was on. I was shocked. I asked him how he had gotten there. His response was, "I just flew through.". I wanted to strangle him. The past hour and a half we've been trying to punch her way through multiple fleets sitting on gates and he just casually flew through it all without a care in the world. And yet again the lesson is driven home, timing is everything.
I collected the remaining member in FD-MLJ and we had everyone at our base of operations. Everyone updated and set their clone to the station. Finally two and a half hours after the start time we were at the position where I'd expected us to be 10 to 15 minutes in.
We began to move deeper into Syndicate. Another member we had picked up along the way was Mornie II. he was a shuttle because he didn't have the skills to build a fly a frigate. He logged onto his main to turn off skill training so it could start to train the frigate skill. Since he was a shuttle, got a replacement clone free and had some prior experience he was our scout. The next several systems were largely uneventful. We encountered other pilots but were unable to actually engage anyone. Upon entering my former home system in Syndicate we hung on the gate. Our arrival was greeted with an interdictor.
I ordered an attack in the game was afoot. Our lack of numbers showed through here. We had nine people in the fleet channel but only eight were actually along for the ride. The ninth. C'happa'ii Was in empire space but with us in spirit. Additionally my inexperience at handling fleet logistics meant that while I did provide rocket and missile launchers for the ships that needed them I've managed to forget to bring rockets and missiles for them to use... So we had a bunch of T1 frigates, and the Griffin and Tristan's flying without ammo for their launchers. We were short on numbers and lacking on DPS but with plenty of gumption.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:58:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:01:40
The attack and not go well we did next to no damage to the interdictor and battle cruiser warped in for support. Ships were going boom everywhere. Unfortunately they were all CAS ships. For some reason the interdictor didn't drop a bubble. That allowed to just about everyone to make it out in either their ship or pod. Nonetheless it was a good experience. Because unlike the previous massacres in this one we actually had the opportunity to do a little pew pew pew. While our attack was ineffectual we actually did attack. We ended the affair with a positive outlook on it.
Some of the members had seen "gf" in local chat during the previous massacres. When it was explained that gf meant "good fight" they got a little miffed. They weren't good fights from our fleets perspective. The good fight comment in local felt more of an insult then the salute for showing up and engaging that was meant to be. After this engagement with the battle cruiser and interdictor the "gf" in local was finally seen more along the lines of what it was meant to mean. Because this time we actually had the chance to fight. Lost, but at least had fought.
I liquidated most of my assets in the system months ago but still had a few ships remaining. Unfortunately no one else could fly Gallante assault frigates except me. So the only ship that was added to the fleet was a pvp fitted Celestis and an old Ishkur of mine that I flew. We took a little down time and then headed out to go pick up pilot that had been podded in the previous engagement. And with that headed deeper into Syndicate. After making a lot of jumps and having no joy we were near enough to a system that was selling in Atron. Mornie II by this time had completed training Frigate II and was able to fly one. I brought in fittings from our base of operations and he outfited the ship is a tackler. And we were on our way again.
We got some practice using the directional scanner trying to find pilots in the systems we passed through. Unfortunately were unable to find them or they were at a POS. But by this time we had got a fair amount of experience maneuvering is a fleet, scouting and using the directional scanner. While wasn't an exciting time for the event the practical experience was valuable. We headed deeper into zero security space heading towards outer ring. We were approaching a system, 4C-B7X, that had 30 plus pilots and it. It made me a little uncomfortable bringing such a small fleet through that system. But the whole day was about experience, success purely defined by taking out other ships was not the intent. A new experience and the opportunity to learn about aspects of Eve that CAS members would not normally have the opportunity to experience was the order of the day.
We ran into a few pilots but had been unable to nail any down. We spent a little too much time in the systems approaching that crowded system. Those pilots had enough for warning to put together a small fleet. We warped on to a gate and found a Brutix there. I gave the order to attack and engage and the fight was on. I knew full well that this was bait. But I felt our fleet needed the action. The Brutix's support actually took a little while to get there. Our mighty little fleet managed to get it to about 70% armor before the first of his support arrived.
My Ishkur was taking heavy damage due to being webbed. The Griffin using its ECM broke the battle cruiser's target locks and saved my hide. At this time a crow warped in and started to engage. My Ishkur apparently was primary. The crow came after me. I redirected my drones to go after the crow who promptly flew off. While it meant my drones weren't damaging the battle cruiser nor the crow due to the crows speed it removed the last bit of DPS that was on my ship. At that moment my ship had had about 4% armor 20% hull left.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:02:33
I redirected the drones to attack the cruiser and at this point in the rest of the support was warping in. Our fleets ships started going down. Pods were getting popped and quickly and Then it was over.
Two or three of us had actually made it out with our pods. We warped to the local station. I had a pleasant conversation with our opponents and thanked them for the engagement. It was the best of the day. While I was chatting in local the rest of our fleet was chatting on the eve voice about how fun the fight was. Losing ships was expected considering the numbers that we were up against but the fight lasted long enough for everyone to get a little bit of a bite in. It gave everyone a bit of a sense of accomplishment after the hours of getting pounded trying to get into zero security space followed by the monotony of warping through empty system after the system.
By this time CAS Combat Day at reach the the nine hour mark and just about everybody chose to end on a high note. There were no new lemmings, excuse me pilots, willing to jump off the cliff with us as such we called it a night. Those of us who stayed on line continued to chat about the experiences we had had that day.
While combat wise our greatest achievement was getting a Brutix to about 35% armor everyone felt it was a success. People got a new experience the opportunity to learn and see how another part player base lives. It was defiantly a rough beginning, very bad luck in the timing. But the later engagements and the additional fleet operations experience was appreciated. Hopefully our next event will draw more pilots. With those experienced from the first event and additional pilots things may turn out different the next time.
Thanks to all the pilots who participated every one of you made this event happen.
Rick Skynight
Vic Steeleyes
Sparkinator
Boiglio
Nobbii
C'happa'ii
Mornie II
Redhouse
Mithor Karez
zyna zyzzx
jander dante
Sassle
0.0 pilots beware one-day CAS may come for you.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ashina Sito on 06/03/2008 09:02:33
I redirected the drones to attack the cruiser and at this point in the rest of the support was warping in. Our fleets ships started going down. Pods were getting popped and quickly and Then it was over.
Two or three of us had actually made it out with our pods. We warped to the local station. I had a pleasant conversation with our opponents and thanked them for the engagement. It was the best of the day. While I was chatting in local the rest of our fleet was chatting on the eve voice about how fun the fight was. Losing ships was expected considering the numbers that we were up against but the fight lasted long enough for everyone to get a little bit of a bite in. It gave everyone a bit of a sense of accomplishment after the hours of getting pounded trying to get into zero security space followed by the monotony of warping through empty system after the system.
By this time CAS Combat Day at reach the the nine hour mark and just about everybody chose to end on a high note. There were no new lemmings, excuse me pilots, willing to jump off the cliff with us as such we called it a night. Those of us who stayed on line continued to chat about the experiences we had had that day.
While combat wise our greatest achievement was getting a Brutix to about 35% armor everyone felt it was a success. People got a new experience the opportunity to learn and see how another part player base lives. It was defiantly a rough beginning, very bad luck in the timing. But the later engagements and the additional fleet operations experience was appreciated. Hopefully our next event will draw more pilots. With those experienced from the first event and additional pilots things may turn out different the next time.
Thanks to all the pilots who participated every one of you made this event happen.
Rick Skynight
Vic Steeleyes
Sparkinator
Boiglio
Nobbii
C'happa'ii
Mornie II
Redhouse
Mithor Karez
zyna zyzzx
jander dante
Sassle
0.0 pilots beware one-day CAS may come for you.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:02:00 -
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:02:00 -
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:29:00 -
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There are actual players in NPC corps? I always thought they were just market alts, cyno alts, spy alts, and forum warrior alts in NPC corps.
Doing prep work to avoid gate camps then going right into PF-346 kinda defeats the purpose of avoiding gate camps.
 Originally by: Paulo Damarr
That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Paladin Mining and Production
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Posted - 2008.03.06 10:17:00 -
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Nice write up, very interesting.
Too bad it takes hours and hours of preperation to get a good 5 minute fight in 0.0
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Legion of Shadow is looking for recruits.
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syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.06 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Orion Eridanus
There are actual players in NPC corps?
There's quite a few of us in CAS actually.
Originally by: GM Faolchu
People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.03.06 11:05:00 -
[18]
Reminds me of SWA PVP posts i saw about 6 months back, good work guys I encourage more of this.
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Boiglio
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Posted - 2008.03.06 16:05:00 -
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CAS is a community. We fly under the banner "Dessert for All, Taxes for None". Basically, we have a corporate culture of supporting our members in whatever the hell they decide they want to do. It would be a mistake, a very large mistake, for anyone in Eve to close their eyes to what an association of freelancers can accomplish. The only thing I refuse to support? The imposition of someone else's playstyle, outmoded uncreative ideas, or how something should be done into my Eve experience.
Ashina, it was an absolute blast. I'll help coordinate many more in the future.
~Boiglio, unofficial coordinator of CAS potlucks and owner of the freebie soda machine
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.03.06 17:08:00 -
[20]
Excellent post and good show to the OP. People like them are what make EVE great.
And yes, there are hundreds of real players in the NPC corps :)
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Gorefacer
Caldari
Resurrection
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Posted - 2008.03.06 17:24:00 -
[21]
Hey Ashina.
Not that it matters, but we weren't part of the Brutix's gang, we saw you guys pass through E9G and 1L- with our small (3 or 4 I think) gang. We got distracted by a Munnin, after killing it we headed towards d5i to try and catch you guys. As we warped to your gang we saw other friendlies had already engaged.
After the fact we all decided it would have been a better fight if it had just been our gang against yours, but I'm still glad you guys got some learning experience in and most importantly had fun.
0.0 is all about the attitude and getting your guys down there is the best first step. Good luck in the future.
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Sassle
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Posted - 2008.03.06 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Sassle on 06/03/2008 17:53:56
Ashina
I had a great time even though I was just a little bit of "Canon Fodder". It was nice to learn about setting your clone in the right spot, even though it was the hard way, 13 jumps.
Sign me up for the next one.
Canon fodder for the masses.
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Rick Skynight
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Posted - 2008.03.07 15:57:00 -
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I had a really good time! I wasn't much help on the offensive damage end, but my ECMing abilities came in handy especially against the brutix at the end :) I had never used electronic attack ships until that day against another player.
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Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.07 16:30:00 -
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Cool story, always good to see people willing to introduce more folks to the ranks of the pew pew.
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.07 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gorefacer
Hey Ashina.
Not that it matters, but we weren't part of the Brutix's gang...
Nice to hear the other side. Although I would much rather have fought just the Brutix and the Crow rather then your gang, since we would have taken the Brutix down. =D
Thanks for all the comments. I am glad that there was fun to be had on both sides of the fence. Guess I'll have to work on putting another CAS-C Day together... Mabe we'd have better luck in Delve...
o7
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