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Dark Spirit
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Posted - 2004.04.07 21:13:00 -
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hey guys, anyone got any suggestions on what the battlecruiser may have as skill requirements? i am guessing cruiser level 5 space command 5 but maybe they will be one other skill like the frigates have? maybe medium turrent 5?
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.04.07 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: flummox on 07/04/2004 21:19:09 well, the advanced frigates are supposed to be really agile, hence the evasive level 5 needed for the interceptors. so, maybe the battlecruisers will need something that is "needed" for a battlecruiser.
i'm gonna go ahead and guess it's Global Thermonuclear Warfare level 5...
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Tokka Konnair
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Posted - 2004.04.07 22:58:00 -
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my best guess would be that Battlecruisers are the cruiser version of what is now known as Escorts
on EV-db it claims the escort skill needs Engineering level 5 (though that would seem a little easy since it's a rank 1 and the other new spaceship command skills have require a level 5 rank 2)
Escorts level 4 and Cruiser level 5 maybe? __________________________________________
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.04.08 11:28:00 -
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Offhand I'd say, cruiser level 5, ship command 4/5 and Gunship 5 (one of the elite frigate skills).
I think all the new cruiser types are going to need one of the elite frigate skills to use, and given how high a rank they are it means you have to chose how you want to fight.
So for the destroyers (fast anti-frigate cruisers from memory) you're going to need Interceptor level 5.
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Jocca Quinn
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Posted - 2004.04.08 12:45:00 -
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Quote: Offhand I'd say, cruiser level 5, ship command 4/5 and Gunship 5 (one of the elite frigate skills).
I think all the new cruiser types are going to need one of the elite frigate skills to use, and given how high a rank they are it means you have to chose how you want to fight.
So for the destroyers (fast anti-frigate cruisers from memory) you're going to need Interceptor level 5.
Surely not !
I would hope that you can be an elite cruiser pilot without being an elite frigate pilot, different areas of specialisation.
I would agree that the pre-req's for each cruiser skill will be (race)cruiser 5 plus some other skill at 5 but I don't see why that other skill should be an elite frigate one.
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.04.08 18:31:00 -
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According to EVE DB, the Battlecruiser skill requires spaceship command III and escorts III. Escorts, however, requires engineering V and spaceship command I. One doesn't need the racial frigate skill to V to learn escorts, though, so one can skip the critical factor when going for an elite cruiser.
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Sitar
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Posted - 2004.04.08 18:48:00 -
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Is there even an esscort skill in the game as of yet? And where would i find it in the skill tree?
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Carmen Priano
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Posted - 2004.04.08 18:51:00 -
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There is in the database, but not on the market. Market items are updated each patch, as well, so you can check for piloting skills there after each patch to see if anything new can be expected. To check the skills in database, go to eve-db.com
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Tokka Konnair
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Posted - 2004.04.09 01:14:00 -
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i was closest ^_^
as i implied in my first post, Escorts is the new name for a class of elite frigate .... probably Gunships __________________________________________
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Tokka Konnair
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Posted - 2004.04.09 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tokka Konnair on 09/04/2004 01:36:11 according to the in testing page the elite frigates are:
-Interceptor -Covert Ops Frigate -Escort Frigate -Bomber -Mining Frigate
in devopement page states elite cruisers as:
-Point Defense Cruiser -Patrol Cruiser -Support Cruiser -Battlecruiser
wonder wich goes with which......
Point Defence sounds like the Covert Opps while Patrol might correspond to Interceptors
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Zasra
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Posted - 2004.04.09 11:47:00 -
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I wonder if someone will spend 2 month's training the skills needed only to find out they are still killed easy by a battleship :)
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.04.09 18:03:00 -
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Yes, would be kind of nice to know well in advance not only the tree skill, but the likely role/stats of the ships :-)
I don't think anyone would be particularly happy picking a particular tree only to find that the cruisers or battleships at the end of it are not what they wanted to fly :-). Previously it wasn't too much of an issue but now we are talking several months of skill investment thats a large mistake to make.
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Archfish
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Posted - 2004.04.10 07:41:00 -
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Quote: Yes, would be kind of nice to know well in advance not only the tree skill, but the likely role/stats of the ships :-)
I don't think anyone would be particularly happy picking a particular tree only to find that the cruisers or battleships at the end of it are not what they wanted to fly :-). Previously it wasn't too much of an issue but now we are talking several months of skill investment thats a large mistake to make.
I think i'd rather not know what the stats of the ships would be, as this would lead to everyone training the prerequisite skills (for the 'uber l33t ship') before they come out, and the ships losing that rarity value.
If you want to train up the skills now, then it should be a gamble (it'll either pay off big style, or you'll have some handy skills that you wouldn't otherwise have got).
If people don't want to risk training the 'wrong' skills, then they should just have to wait for the ships to be introduced. No reward without some risk ;-)
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:24:00 -
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Cruiser lvl 5 is probably the safest bet, wouldn't train anything else to lvl 5 just yet just cause it might be needed for some elite cruiser, when those are still in development. Just train the other skills if you think they're worth and maybe you'll get lucky.  ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.04.10 19:29:00 -
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Training cruiser to level 5 wouldn't be so bad if they gave them two bonuses as every other ship type has.
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Admiral Seafort
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Posted - 2004.04.11 01:54:00 -
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I wonder, then, if I should hold off on building a cruiser? I'm sure that the blueprints for Elite Cruisers will be near impossible to obtain, but then again if I hope to get a Battlecruiser I'll have to mine even more...
I think we should plan for what is currently in the game, rather than preparing for something that may or may not be implemented in the near future. Just because it's "in testing" doesn't mean that it will be available anytime soon.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.04.11 13:04:00 -
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True :-) but then again given the likely tech 2 component requirements for said ships you might need to start saving now to be able to afford one!
On the other hand they might have bps out for components by then.
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Nariko Tenrai
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Posted - 2004.04.11 21:31:00 -
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Historically, "battlecruiser" has referred to an offense-minded vessel with the speed and armor of a cruiser, but the guns of a battleship. If CCP is using this definition (they may not), BCs would likely require navigation and gunnery (not missile) prepreqs. - - - -
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.04.11 21:45:00 -
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In other words, expect Weapon Upgrades level 5 to be a prerequisite... --
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