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nomlasmit
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:05:00 -
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Edited by: nomlasmit on 07/03/2008 17:08:21
You guys have played every match trying to stop the opposing team from winning with benny hill tactics...
In your last match with Cry Havoc you deliberatley took your final two ishtars into neut/web range and stopped dead when there was approx 2mins left to deny the THD.
You better come up with a damn good explaination for this as right now you have a lot of very angry pirates.
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SuPeRcHeEzIt
Gallente
Eve Defence Force
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:10:00 -
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they sold they soul for a few new shiny ships
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:12:00 -
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Chill guys.
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Tradesman Mcgee
Caldari
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:12:00 -
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Bruce = failure, nothing new there. This time they probably made some isk by failing though.
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Lux Aeterna
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:13:00 -
[5]
lol
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Sirex007
Kumovi
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:14:00 -
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well, its not working whatever their trying to do. I've found the bruce games very entertaining, but only as true colors have come out.
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Elisa Day
Koshaku
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:15:00 -
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Not me, I bet 200m on our team  .
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Petrina Uvera
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:15:00 -
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What I am wondering is why did Cry Havoc get a Total hell death seeing as they only showed up with 99points. I thought the definition of a perfect win was killing all opponents without giving a single point away.
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Shiragiku Kensei
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:20:00 -
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This thread is fuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllll of win. Is Pandemic Legion nervous?
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Jeremy Samson
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:21:00 -
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I can see it already, this group = fixed results. The last match we will see ED win, but with Cry Havoc scoring at least 23 points on honortanked 0 m/s ED ships. 
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Friedrick Psitalon
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Friedrick Psitalon on 07/03/2008 17:42:51
Bear in mind this is BRUCE's first alliance tournament, and frankly, we're trying different and various tactics to get the job done. We had no illusions of winning, and weren't even sure we'd advance. What we're doing is sampling different tools. I dare say the impressive experience of Pandemic Legion in this tournament is a result of having done this before - you might bear that in mind - you were flying in these tournaments before BRUCE (and many of its players!) even existed. 
In the first match, the "Benny Hilling" as the commentators called it was us flying around killing Vigils. After that, we went for an Abbadon, and did the best we could to kill it. What do you suggest? That we simply stop the eight interceptors (not the five EVE TV reported) and let them die? Give you the extra points? No thanks, we wanted a game of it. Just because the commentators lacked the wit to count how many Inties we had on the field until late, and didn't recognize we weren't prepared for a three-battleship setup doesn't make it invalid. Most assuredly, eight interceptors would've made any cruiser-based gang pretty miserable. That being said, Pandemic thought further ahead, a credit to their skills and experience, and deserved the win. I'm not sure what "Benny Hill" tactics you think were used - we never stopped shooting and never stopped trying to win.
In the second match, we were defeated rather soundly by superior ECM. The order to stay alive was given to the two Interceptors because after the 0-0 of Havoc-Legion, we could still advance if we denied Ethereal Dawn a TotalHellDeath. There was nothing unsound in that decision; we were in it to advance like everyone else. Those Crows, by the way, were intended for anti-Kitsune/Griffin duty, while mounting a damp to assist our own ECM in "sealing" jams after the fact. One crow survived and we wanted to prevent ED from getting a TotalHellDeath, in case we did very well against Havoc and MC - a long shot, but would you have done differently? "No, Jester, just stop and die." I have more respect for Pandemic than to assume they'd give up like that - why should we?
The third match we were a bit shocked by - we were confident we could endure Smartbombs on our drones long enough to kill the Guardian; cross-repping Guardians had failed to endure the damage on test. Credit to Havoc; we weren't expecting shield-and-armor repping, and so the Guardian endured, and our drones died. We were then trying to avoid the tracking of those murderous Bouncer IIs while killing them, but we popped too fast for the effort. We did not suicide against Havoc; they had Neuts on their Domis and moved such that orbiting the Bouncers took us too close to them. When they did, our mistake was pounded. We're going to make a lot of mistakes - that's how it goes. We were concentrating on killing the Bouncer II's, and the pilots on the field didn't notice we'd strayed too close to the Domis, which were closing quietly. Much credit to Havoc for their play.
BRUCE is working hard, trying new things, learning a lot, and doing the best we can. No one would expect different. We've never stopped fighting, never stopped trying, never stopped bringing it, and never paid much attention to people who don't like our style. Are we the best team in our bracket? Not even close! We never claimed to be. We're having fun, though, trying new things, and we're learning. We flatly refuse to adopt any of the setups we're seeing everyone else use, and we're going to continue making our own road. That's all the explanation any BRUCE ever needs.
Much respect to the Legion. We didn't give up against you, Dawn, or Havoc - and we won't be giving up against MC, either. There is nothing more important to BRUCE than its integrity, and most assuredly, we don't "give" anyone a totalhelldeath - or sell it, either.
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES!
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Cabue
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:43:00 -
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Lets just drop this and give them the benefit of the doubt. Its not like the self destructed or brought out 10 ospreys.
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Shiragiku Kensei
This thread is fuuuuuuuuuuuulllllllllllll of win. Is Pandemic Legion nervous?
Not really, we did the best we could in this tournament and didn't lose a match. It's out of our hands now if we progress or not.
BRUCE chose to suicide their ships in the end, instead of avoiding points loss as they did against PL and Cry Havoc. It's within their rights to do so and there's nothing wrong with it.
Bracket C has been very suprising, which is good... ED has performed well and today totally suprised us to the point of a lot of "oh sh..." on teamspeak before the match went down. Cry Havoc. has put in a very solid performance and I for one would be upset to not see them progress.
Sure some of our non-tourney participants are a bit upset at BRUCE, but that's all part of the fun & drama that makes these tourneys interesting  . Pretend drama to blow people up later in a serious-business internet spaceship game and all that!
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Antodias on 07/03/2008 17:44:45
bruce: thats one big post
edit: shadoo you promised a much angrier poast
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Syath
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:52:00 -
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this is all just payback for the time bruce killed my nano cerb with their 40 man gang
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Cabue
Gallente
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Syath
this is all just payback for the time bruce killed my nano cerb with their 40 man gang
Was it polyed?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.03.07 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cabue
Lets just drop this and give them the benefit of the doubt. Its not like the self destructed or brought out 10 ospreys.
10 Osprey team would be pretty funny.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Cabue
Originally by: Syath
this is all just payback for the time bruce killed my nano cerb with their 40 man gang
Was it polyed?
Syath, if you answer yes to this question, you ever thought of joining PL???
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Floppy Disk
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Floppy Disk on 07/03/2008 18:03:06
Originally by: sakana
Originally by: Cabue
Originally by: Syath
this is all just payback for the time bruce killed my nano cerb with their 40 man gang
Was it polyed?
Syath, if you answer yes to this question, you ever thought of joining PL???
Good luck poaching our guys; nobody can compete with our lack of pants.
p.s. we've lost a lot of our solo ships to bruce, wicked defenders of space those guys.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:03:00 -
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Ishkurs only go ~1600 with MWD. If you look at their death mails, you'll see that Valkyrie IIs catch them just fine. Splat.
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nomlasmit
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:06:00 -
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Thank you Friedrick for an honest and detailed explaination...
PL never have and never will do things by halves.
Since I have been involved with this alliance I have never seen a group of players who are so dedicated and good at what they do.
We did not take Bruce to be the comedy option as we expected better of you. So I think you can see the frustration when we get the THD required and then see our hard work undone with a matter of minutes to play.
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Floppy Disk
Good luck poaching our guys; nobody can compete with our lack of pants.
I played today's tourney match naked. Just wanted to let you know that .
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Floppy Disk
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:13:00 -
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Hmm... Have you ever thought about joining Cry Havoc?
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Floppy Disk
Hmm... Have you ever thought about joining Cry Havoc?
What is CHs opinion on "man on man" action ?
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Veng3ance
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:19:00 -
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BRUCE ftw 
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Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: Floppy Disk
Hmm... Have you ever thought about joining Cry Havoc?
What is CHs opinion on "man on man" action ?
It must not be corrupted with pants, and we are ok with it.
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Zathi Shaitan
Minmatar
Illiteracy Combatants
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: nomlasmit
]explaination
Illiterate OP.
Failed thread.
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio
Originally by: Ohne
Originally by: Floppy Disk
Hmm... Have you ever thought about joining Cry Havoc?
What is CHs opinion on "man on man" action ?
It must not be corrupted with pants, and we are ok with it.
Intresting...
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Syrinthal
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ohne
Intresting...
Ohne ... they also have this excellent sofa at the back here... if you're thinking what I'm thinking
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Mr Rive
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:39:00 -
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this thread is starting to get scary.
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JadeFalcon3r Pryde
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 19:07:00 -
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First rule : No Pants!
Man-on-Man action is...fine.You should see our hazing rituals!
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Frey Jorgurand
Minmatar
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 19:40:00 -
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MMmmmmmm......ears.
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Seth Rock
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Rive
this thread is starting to get scary.
Don't worry rive you can come too
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.03.07 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Petrina Uvera
What I am wondering is why did Cry Havoc get a Total hell death seeing as they only showed up with 99points. I thought the definition of a perfect win was killing all opponents without giving a single point away.
If you don't lose anything you field you get the THD, you'll still give up unused points.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Antaris Xenal
Gallente
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: JadeFalcon3r Pryde
First rule : No Pants!
Man-on-Man action is...fine.You should see our hazing rituals!
Yeah, you all should have seen what they did when I first joined  I still feel sore around there!
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HotSeat
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 22:25:00 -
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Sorry, but it sucks to never loose a match and still not go through :(
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 22:35:00 -
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The draw points are handled in a flawed fashion.
We've got 2 THDs and a draw without a single ship loss, and this makes our position a little shaky as well.
We'd both have been better off just SD'ing an equal amount of our team before time ran out so that both sides would have gained points as we moved on. Kind of a sad reality.
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Friedrick Psitalon
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.08 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: HotSeat
Sorry, but it sucks to never loose a match and still not go through :(
For what it's worth, I very much agree with this statement.
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Zaltor Kabalen
Amarr
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.08 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon
Originally by: HotSeat
Sorry, but it sucks to never loose a match and still not go through :(
For what it's worth, I very much agree with this statement.
I agree also.
Either way, watching my fellow alliance and corpmates compete.. I think CH has made a statement to say the least. The point system is flawed in that matter, but so be it.
Rock on guy.
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