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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.08 10:28:00 -
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Latety several changes has been brought about on the game that has made faction and deadspace items seem very off. The biggest is of course the change to the Sansha ships. While older players probably know about the changes and how things used to be, newer players might be confused by the armor tanking Coreli mods and the shield tanking ships etc. Heres my humble suggestion:
Remove True Sansha and Coreli armor mods and replace them with shield mods. They should have exactly the stats of Domination and Gistii. Dark Blood and Corpum has exactly the same stats so it doesent matter. True sansha and Coreli now has the exact stats of another faction instead.
Remove True Sansha cruise launchers and bcu. Replace them with True Sansha shield recharger and True Sansha shield flux coil. No other faction drops those modules so that will be nice for passive tankers.
Change Slave set to represent shield amount rather then armor. This will be highly valuable for passive shield tankers so the implants wont drop in value (i think)
Change Talisman to what Slave set used to be. Face it, nos and neut might still be a small issue in pvp but not what it used to be and not by a longshot enough to warrant a 1.5b pirate set.
Lets conclude: Dark Blood and True Sansha was always the same so the people who liked True Sansha mods can just buy Dark Blood instead. New True Sansha, Slave and Coreli stats will give passive shield tankers nice faction mods to play with. They still wont be that overpowered, we all know what happens to passive drakes in pvp, they are simply primaried last. Talisman set was always a bit useless imo, 95% of people who use high grade pirate sets are mission runners and they seldom, if ever, have nos. Now there are 2 nice pirate sets to choose from, Slave for people who run lvl 4 in passive drakes and nighthawks and Talisman for people who like armor. And finally True Sansha gets 2 unique modules for their faction, the passive shield mods. Thoughts?
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.08 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ethaet on 08/03/2008 12:55:19
Originally by: Draahk Chimera Latety several changes has been brought about on the game that has made faction and deadspace items seem very off. The biggest is of course the change to the Sansha ships. While older players probably know about the changes and how things used to be, newer players might be confused by the armor tanking Coreli mods and the shield tanking ships etc. Heres my humble suggestion:
Remove True Sansha and Coreli armor mods and replace them with shield mods. They should have exactly the stats of Domination and Gistii. Dark Blood and Corpum has exactly the same stats so it doesent matter. True sansha and Coreli now has the exact stats of another faction instead.
Remove True Sansha cruise launchers and bcu. Replace them with True Sansha shield recharger and True Sansha shield flux coil. No other faction drops those modules so that will be nice for passive tankers.
Change Slave set to represent shield amount rather then armor. This will be highly valuable for passive shield tankers so the implants wont drop in value (i think)
Change Talisman to what Slave set used to be. Face it, nos and neut might still be a small issue in pvp but not what it used to be and not by a longshot enough to warrant a 1.5b pirate set.
Lets conclude: Dark Blood and True Sansha was always the same so the people who liked True Sansha mods can just buy Dark Blood instead. New True Sansha, Slave and Coreli stats will give passive shield tankers nice faction mods to play with. They still wont be that overpowered, we all know what happens to passive drakes in pvp, they are simply primaried last. Talisman set was always a bit useless imo, 95% of people who use high grade pirate sets are mission runners and they seldom, if ever, have nos. Now there are 2 nice pirate sets to choose from, Slave for people who run lvl 4 in passive drakes and nighthawks and Talisman for people who like armor. And finally True Sansha gets 2 unique modules for their faction, the passive shield mods. Thoughts?
Since when do serpentis shield tank?  Shield hp bonus implants would be WAY overpowered for all the passive drakes/nighthawks. Perhaps for the implants, just switch the function of slave and talisman around (changng all slave implants ingame into talisman and viceversa).
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.08 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Draahk Chimera on 08/03/2008 13:52:20 Serpentis? Domination and Gistii are angels. And why would a few thousand extra shield be overpowered (for the prize of 1.5+ b) when 5000 m/s extra from a snake set isnt?
Edit: O**** Is coreli serpentis? Then what is Sansha? Anyways, in my original post replace all "coreli" with whatever the sanshas deadspace is called.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.03.08 13:55:00 -
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Serpentis: Core, Coreli, Corelum, etc. Blood: Corpum, etc Sansha: Centus, etc
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.08 14:12:00 -
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Yeah, so change True Sansha and Centus modules to shield with the same effectnivness as Domination and Gist. Sorry about my mistake. Now discuss. 
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.08 14:19:00 -
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Most domination modules, with exceptions (mwd, overdrives, gyros) are worse than t2, so bad idea.
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.08 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Draahk Chimera on 08/03/2008 14:45:34
Originally by: Ethaet Most domination modules, with exceptions (mwd, overdrives, gyros) are worse than t2, so bad idea.
As are TS bcu. Some faction mods are worse then t2, thats how it works. If TS bcu is replaced by shield flux coil better then t2 it evens out.
If my calculations are correct this will make Pith the best active shield followed by Gistii and Centus. Then Dread Guristas, then t2 then Domination and True Sansha.
The best speed will be Gistii then core then domination then t2 then shadow serpentis right?
The best passive shield will be True Sansha and Thukker Tribe then t2.
Best lasers would be True Sansha and Dark Blood, best missiles would be Dread, t2 then Domination (no Sanshas yousee, becasue they dont use missiles anymore).
Etcetera. Sanshas and centus items will still be competative just moved to a different niche. And as an added bonus we remove a pretty useless pirate set. Right?
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Cha Jeng
Zenith of Things
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Posted - 2008.03.09 02:38:00 -
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few thousand extra shield? wtf are you talking about, a full slave set give 53% more armor... can you imagine if a passive shield tank guy had 53% more shields? that would be incredibly overpowered
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 02:47:00 -
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And he wants faction shield flux coils, lol. ---------------------------------
Oh noes!
Originally by: CCP Greyscale *moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal*
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