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Stokerpoons Gallente Funda Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.03.11 23:26:00 - [1] Edited by: Stokerpoons on 11/03/2008 23:29:25 Linkage Launched where? Oh wait. no it hasn't Good luck with the patch btw
Feng Schui Minmatar Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.03.11 23:45:00 - [2] Quote: 3/11/2008 8:11:03 PM EVE Gets a Boost Trinity 1.1: Boost Patch has launched, filled with helpful and thrilling modifications, and not a single 'nerf'. With every patch we hope to greatly improve our virtual world, by enhancing features, squashing bugs and fine-tuning the action. Boost Patch has done just that. Navigate to the Trinity webpage to review all of Boost Patch's features, interviews, screenshots and wallpapers. And what exactly is reducing EM armor resists and Explosive shield resists? Oh yea.. a NERF. Project:Gank Pilgrim Guide
Grendelsbane	Posted - 2008.03.11 23:57:00 - [3] I gripe more than your average pilot, but I must say they seem to have dealt with a number of them in this patch - the little functional things. Grendelsbane is pleased.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Feng Schui Quote: 3/11/2008 8:11:03 PM EVE Gets a Boost Trinity 1.1: Boost Patch has launched, filled with helpful and thrilling modifications, and not a single 'nerf'. With every patch we hope to greatly improve our virtual world, by enhancing features, squashing bugs and fine-tuning the action. Boost Patch has done just that. Navigate to the Trinity webpage to review all of Boost Patch's features, interviews, screenshots and wallpapers. And what exactly is reducing EM armor resists and Explosive shield resists? Oh yea.. a NERF. Funny, it's boosting my damage. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.1
DogSlime	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:11:00 - [5] Originally by: Feng Schui Quote: 3/11/2008 8:11:03 PM EVE Gets a Boost Trinity 1.1: Boost Patch has launched, filled with helpful and thrilling modifications, and not a single 'nerf'. With every patch we hope to greatly improve our virtual world, by enhancing features, squashing bugs and fine-tuning the action. Boost Patch has done just that. Navigate to the Trinity webpage to review all of Boost Patch's features, interviews, screenshots and wallpapers. And what exactly is reducing EM armor resists and Explosive shield resists? Oh yea.. a NERF. This annoys the hell out of me. I don't really care that they nerf armour and shields, but this BULL** about "not a single nerf". I hate liars like that. I like the game, but I don't like the idea that my subscription pays the wages of people who lie like politicians. Scum, in my opinion. Whilst it might seem like a minor issue, it's the principle that they can feed us a line of ** and we swallow it, and pay them in the process. Nerf shields and armour, but don't then lie and say "not a single nerf". That's a politicians trick and the people who do it are scum.
Aprudena Gist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:14:00 - [6] Originally by: DogSlime Originally by: Feng Schui Quote: 3/11/2008 8:11:03 PM EVE Gets a Boost Trinity 1.1: Boost Patch has launched, filled with helpful and thrilling modifications, and not a single 'nerf'. With every patch we hope to greatly improve our virtual world, by enhancing features, squashing bugs and fine-tuning the action. Boost Patch has done just that. Navigate to the Trinity webpage to review all of Boost Patch's features, interviews, screenshots and wallpapers. And what exactly is reducing EM armor resists and Explosive shield resists? Oh yea.. a NERF. This annoys the hell out of me. I don't really care that they nerf armour and shields, but this BULL** about "not a single nerf". I hate liars like that. I like the game, but I don't like the idea that my subscription pays the wages of people who lie like politicians. Scum, in my opinion. Whilst it might seem like a minor issue, it's the principle that they can feed us a line of ** and we swallow it, and pay them in the process. Nerf shields and armour, but don't then lie and say "not a single nerf". That's a politicians trick and the people who do it are scum. They Said Balancing Changes aren't nerfs but they dam well are.
Elias Modron Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:25:00 - [7] Originally by: DogSlime This annoys the hell out of me. I don't really care that they nerf armour and shields, but this BULL** about "not a single nerf". I hate liars like that. I like the game, but I don't like the idea that my subscription pays the wages of people who lie like politicians. Scum, in my opinion. Whilst it might seem like a minor issue, it's the principle that they can feed us a line of ** and we swallow it, and pay them in the process. Nerf shields and armour, but don't then lie and say "not a single nerf". That's a politicians trick and the people who do it are scum. You take this game far too seriously. Don't like it? Don't play.
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:28:00 - [8] Take a ******* chillpill DogSlime or you'll have a heartattack. OP: You have to put the change into context. You can boost damage by nerfing tank. You can nerf damage by boosting tank. Relatively speaking. If they would've boosted EM and EXP damage instead then that would be an indirect nerf to tank aswell.
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:34:00 - [9] There isn't a "single" nerf in this patch there are many so technically its true, having said that huggles absolution --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Sky Marshal Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.03.12 00:42:00 - [10] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 12/03/2008 00:43:28 Quote: 3/11/2008 8:11:03 PM EVE Gets a Boost Trinity 1.1: Boost Patch has launched, filled with helpful and thrilling modifications, and not a single 'nerf'. I can't believe that they would go so far. ____ 14/20 Revelations : Desyncs... 11/20 Trinity : BBSOD, Bugs, Desyncs, F*** Nerfs 10/20 1.1 : [...] + EXP shield nerf 08/20 ½ Not a single nerf + : What ?!? CCP is the real problem of EVE.
DogSlime	Posted - 2008.03.12 01:33:00 - [11] Originally by: Cpt Fina Take a ******* chillpill DogSlime or you'll have a heartattack. OP: You have to put the change into context. You can boost damage by nerfing tank. You can nerf damage by boosting tank. Relatively speaking. If they would've boosted EM and EXP damage instead then that would be an indirect nerf to tank aswell. Yeah, screw it. Who cares really? I just got angry because I see all this from politicians on the TV, and these "no nerf" claims seem to be the same crap. Overall, it's no big deal as you and others so correctly observe.
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente Snake Eyes Inc Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.03.12 01:37:00 - [12] It's boosting the need for a better tank. What's the complaint?
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.12 01:37:00 - [13] It affects ALL ships so cant really be said as a nerf as such. --------------------------------- Oh noes! Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Daelin Blackleaf Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.12 01:43:00 - [14] Technically the idea behind all the changes is to buff one thing or another, of course in buffing any one thing you nerf another. It's the idea that counts, they didn't nerf polycarbs, they didn't nerf non-stacking rigs, they didn't nerf snakes, they could have, many would have applauded such changes, but the spirit of trinity 1.1 is that of improving the lot of some decidedly under-par ships. Is it spot on? No balance never is it's an art not a science. Will everyone be happy? No, you can't make everyone happy. Is it a boost patch? Yes, I'd say it is, nothing in there is done to nerf anything. If a politician claims they are improving public services funding this year (a buff) and moves a huge chunk of money into services but also decides to reduce funding to some services to improve others you cannot really say that the years budget saw a decrease to services funding (a nerf). It's all semantics, I'm sure if CCP were like the politicians they'd have made no such claim, in fact they'd probably not tell us much of anything for fear of criticism. I'd rather not see the company take such a direction, but if the community is going to whine about almost everything they say we'll force the lines of communication to tighten to a trickle and ruin the relationship between the players and the devs even more than the last year or so has managed.
DogSlime	Posted - 2008.03.12 01:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf It's all semantics, I'm sure if CCP were like the politicians they'd have made no such claim, in fact they'd probably not tell us much of anything for fear of criticism. I'd rather not see the company take such a direction, but if the community is going to whine about almost everything they say we'll force the lines of communication to tighten to a trickle and ruin the relationship between the players and the devs even more than the last year or so has managed. Fair enough, but we pay for the service they provide. People who pay for a service have every right to sound-off about the things they don't like. It comes with the territory. If eve were free, I imagine people would still whine, and in that case it would be quite unfair, but it isn't free. It's a service paid for by its users and if I am paying for something, and there's something I don't like about it, then I'm gonna complain.
Ralon Aster Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.12 01:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Feng Schui And what exactly is reducing EM armor resists and Explosive shield resists? Oh yea.. a NERF. Cry some more. Geez..
DEFIER ORILIS	Posted - 2008.03.12 02:16:00 - [17] Great patch notes enhancements to the already great Eve Trinity... ...It looks like the shining star viewed by all solar system will be gone after Trinity 1.1 patch. CCP has worked hard for our money and we greatly appreciated. Defier.
Agif	Posted - 2008.03.13 03:53:00 - [18] CCP lies = Fact CCP is useless at patching = Fact and epic fail CCP employees are all recruited from kindergarten = Pending At the end of the day they deliver but they still are epicly useless at patching and making this game suck one patch at a time :P --------------- EvEmissions - Level 5 Missions - Updated 22/01/08
Rawr Cristina	Posted - 2008.03.13 03:56:00 - [19] Arn't 'Boost' and 'Nerf' both subjective terms? Personally I'd rather they focused on 'Balance' ...
Stuart Price	Posted - 2008.03.13 03:56:00 - [20] Edited by: Stuart Price on 13/03/2008 03:56:37 Since I fill my lows with damage mods and go for the biggest guns possible with the most damaging ammo, reducing shield resists is a boost for me since I am now gankier. I dps-tank so reduced resists don't hurt me :p "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Ringo Jeicha	Posted - 2008.03.13 03:58:00 - [21] Then why my good friend, do you still p(l)ay?
Kylar Renpurs	Posted - 2008.03.13 03:59:00 - [22] Quote: Nerf /nɜrf/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nurf] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation Trademark. any of various toys modeled esp. on sports equipment but made of foam rubber or other soft substances. From dictionary.com So at least CCP didn't really lie... Improve Market Competition!
Drink PepsiMax	Posted - 2008.03.13 04:02:00 - [23] Wow, you're all like that angry german kid on youtube, you know who I mean. It's so funny to see people get worked up so bad over a game Very entertaining and amusing
Agif	Posted - 2008.03.13 04:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Drink PepsiMax Wow, you're all like that angry german kid on youtube, you know who I mean. It's so funny to see people get worked up so bad over a game Very entertaining and amusing Wait this is just a game I WANT MY LIFE BACK --------------- EvEmissions - Level 5 Missions - Updated 22/01/08
Azirapheal	Posted - 2008.03.13 04:21:00 - [25] tbh they gave us boobs on corpses. im busy sorting my anin collection into 2 containers. i will be spending much time there. THANK YOU CCP
Morp p'LLoran	Posted - 2008.03.13 04:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Azirapheal tbh they gave us boobs on corpses. im busy sorting my anin collection into 2 containers. i will be spending much time there. THANK YOU CCP , just Have fun, i guess * Standard COAD Disclaimer * All post I make represent myself, me and I only - and does not reflect my corp or alliance viewpoints
Dealth Striker	Posted - 2008.03.13 04:54:00 - [27] Maybe they have not lied about "Not a single nerf" might be more than one? :)
Futureface01	Posted - 2008.03.13 05:36:00 - [28] CCP is pulling a "Baghdad Bob".. There are no nerfs here... No nerfs at all! BagdadBob
Kyra Felann	Posted - 2008.03.13 07:19:00 - [29] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Arn't 'Boost' and 'Nerf' both subjective terms? Personally I'd rather they focused on 'Balance' To me, nerf implies that something is made useless, kinda like a Nerf bat in real combat. Armor is far from useless.
Kwitch	Posted - 2008.03.13 07:39:00 - [30] I believe CCP put the word 'nerf' in quotes like they did to relate to the traditional, historical definitions the word has been used as in the past regarding reducing the effectiveness of certain parts of the game, i.e. laser nerfing, torpedo nerfing, ew nerfing. This means a module that had skillpoints invested behind it and it's functionality was proportionate to a pilot's skills was made less effective. most noteably: Nosferatu nerfing. By stating this pastch does not nerf per-se, it was to imply that no ships or weapons were recieving changes to their functionality. Now, a resistance change be it more or less in any category could be considered a 'nerf' if you were just to take an absolute stance and say it is less than it was therefore it is a nerf and ccp needs to go to hell. In this instance this would be incorrect, and the person describing the scenario as such to be found lacking in moderation. This did not need 6 seperate threads to flame CCP about, for example. Consider a 'nerf' a major gameplay change that enables a player greater combat ability over another with a direct reduction of another person's abilities. In this instance that example does not apply due to a reduction in a resistance easily being adjusted for. -- Read of my adventures: Born Dusty - Feeds from a random spaceman

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