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Feng Schui
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.03.14 14:22:00 -
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Yea.. just curious, whats the deal with the Stabbabond? All of the vagabonds I have fought recently are all equipped with warp stabs, and this makes me sad.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 14:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Feng Schui
Yea.. just curious, whats the deal with the Stabbabond? All of the vagabonds I have fought recently are all equipped with warp stabs, and this makes me sad.
Out of curiousity, how did you find out that they all have stabs? This might explain why they are doing so.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.14 14:33:00 -
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I remember the stababonds from a year and a half ago..not seen any recently.
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Wu Jiun
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 14:44:00 -
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The only really good thing about that ship is that you can run away most of the time. This is why people fly it really because the can engage without risking their ship to a full extent all the time.
So going from there it would only be reasonable to fit a stab to further enhance these options. Of course the targeting range penalty and especially the scan resolution penalty really detract from the ships (limited) potential. Not to mention your epeen is cut in half every time you get caught in such a setup. And lets be realistic - those who fit warp core stabs are exactly the pilots who are probably caught the most.
Another possibility would be that some people have found the ship to be a good ratting vessel or at least one that is less likely to die!?
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Bruce Deorum
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:09:00 -
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Never seen one, and never known anybody flying a stabbed vaga.
Vagas r fast enough if u want to get away (most of the times).
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Garmon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:09:00 -
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takes skill to fly one effectively.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:36:00 -
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Did we just do a timewarp back to 2006?
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ry ry
StateCorp
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:44:00 -
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stabbed vagas? 4 x stab drakes? what's up with the forums today? :D
stabs are like fitting mods. sure you can shoehorn one onto a ship if you want, but it's at the expense of all sorts of other more useful goodies.
if you want to run away, surely a bit more nano will do the same thing and help out in non-running-away scenarios? boot it towards a planet and pick off the frigates chasing you at low transversal or something.
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Ryysa
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:48:00 -
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Back when I got my first vagabond, everyone put stabs on it. 3 dmg mods, 2 wcs.
It was fast enough, so there was no point fitting nanos, and it gave you the "if you screw up, you live" factor.
But the same worked even better for ECM ravens and the like :P
That said, vagabond already has pretty horrible locking range. Fitting any WCS to it makes it really kinda "meh".
Something like 2x signal amps + wcs + 2x gyro II in low would work though.
You could mess around with more things, but you would be slower, deal less damage, and die horribly still if you get properly tackled.
If you have experience flying fast gunships (not speedtanking ships, as those are just orbit and spam), then stabs are a waste of time.
If you are just starting out, you will still die terribly, because you will screw up terribly. 1 wcs is useful in very, very few situations.
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Lyria Skydancer
Home 0f Bored Occultists
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
Yea.. just curious, whats the deal with the Stabbabond? All of the vagabonds I have fought recently are all equipped with warp stabs, and this makes me sad.
The deal is: They suck and are noobs for fitting stabs on a vaga.
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z0de
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Wu Jiun
The only really good thing about that ship is that you can run away most of the time.
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Feng Schui
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tasko Pal
Originally by: Feng Schui
Yea.. just curious, whats the deal with the Stabbabond? All of the vagabonds I have fought recently are all equipped with warp stabs, and this makes me sad.
Out of curiousity, how did you find out that they all have stabs? This might explain why they are doing so.
True enough. I had them webbed and defiantly warp disrupted. First time, I was like, wtf? Was my modules bugged? 2nd time, and I'm kinda like, gdmit.
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Pilgrim Guide
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Ryysa
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 14/03/2008 17:06:10
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
The deal is: They suck and are noobs for fitting stabs on a vaga.
Pretty much sums up my post. Wasn't always considered that way ;)
You still won't kill them with a single warp disruptor though. Noobs or not.
That's why there is so much hate about the vagabond though, back when you weren't playing yet, it was quite invincible in the right hands, due to 2-3 stabs fitted + going fast.
No huginns, no nanoships (no rigs), no dictors - only way to kill one was jam it, and put a stiletto on it.
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Faife
Blackrain Solutions
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Posted - 2008.03.14 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
stabbed vagas? 4 x stab drakes? what's up with the forums today? :D
stabs are like fitting mods. sure you can shoehorn one onto a ship if you want, but it's at the expense of all sorts of other more useful goodies.
if you want to run away, surely a bit more nano will do the same thing and help out in non-running-away scenarios? boot it towards a planet and pick off the frigates chasing you at low transversal or something.
WTB vaga that can outrun nano gang.
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no really, I know they can and want to buy one.
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Wu Jiun
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
WTB vaga that can outrun nano gang.
wtb nano gang that cannot hold down a stabbed vagabond?
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Ryysa
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 17:11:00 -
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Proper nanogang with commandship boost = lolspeed.
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