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Securion Wolfheart
Not Like Most
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Posted - 2008.03.17 01:56:00 -
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Seriously guys, stop talking about fittings for ships that are totally outdated. Get yourself a carrier and join the Carriers Online community today! Its where all the fun is! 15k carriers now and counting. How long until most 0.0 fleets are 100 caps and some random battleships for support? Oh wait, thats happening right now in EC-?!? But dont worry, im sure a well balanced mixed fleet easily can counter that with some brains and balls right?
That or get a speed tanked Vagabond. As we could see in the EVE Tourney they cant be killed. Not even 5 Cerbs firing all they had against it could even dent its shield. 0 damage inflicted with 5 Cerbs shooting at it forever. Good balance there CCP, i gotta give you that!
Next step is to get the mothership production going so we can upgrade from carriers to motherships. Long term goal is of course to have all noobs to create an account, go away for two years and come back and help out a large scale "PvP" alliance during 12 hour long laggy "fleet fights". Just warp your solopawnmobile (carrier/mothership) in and laugh at the dudes in battleships. When will they ever learn eh?
So, start training for a carrier, and go away until you are done. All this talk about other ships is just silly, and you know it.
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DiuxDium
Clown College Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:02:00 -
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Amazing, some ships are stronger than others. Let me make a clever post about this ironically. Bichas' gunna be on my dizlnick in no time. ------------- Hello America |
Hans Viktor
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:20:00 -
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But why train for a carrier when you can easily hop into a Dread and whoop on carriers!
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Mykpilot
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Viktor But why train for a carrier when you can easily hop into a Dread and whoop on carriers!
And then begins the capital ship metagame. So, when everyone does Dreads... what beat Dreads?
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mykpilot
Originally by: Hans Viktor But why train for a carrier when you can easily hop into a Dread and whoop on carriers!
And then begins the capital ship metagame. So, when everyone does Dreads... what beat Dreads?
ten battleships traveling faster than 100 m/s
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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MrAssasin
The Reappropriation Committee
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:37:00 -
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Dude not everyone want to fly a cap ship. Pvp in the future will never be just about cap ship. Ya to be sucessful alliance u must have a decent cap fleet now adays and pvping is changing fast but caps billion doller ship that many cant afford and afford to lose every month, thay also take months to train and without a good support fleet cap fleets do go very far and do do very well. As far as your other statement 100 caps and some random bs; NO not true at all u need the dictors and ceptor and the outthisworldpwnagespeedtankingvagabonds and other support ship to do most of the dirty work and every day pvping and with a good FC and a nice balance fleet u can counter a cap fleet with some random bs. So form talking about fittings for ships that u say are out of date is crazy because its what makes eve so fun for us pvp pilots to find different setups for different ships to take out other ships like how to kill a vaga 1on1 which is very easy if u no what u doing and have the right ship. But my point is no matter how big your cap fleet is u will never be sucessful in 0.0 without good support fleets ships at all times-(HAC,HIC,BS,BC,RECONS,CEPTORS) ect the everyday pvp ship.
Flying minmatar ship is like takeing the seatbelt off while on a roller coster going 90degrees downword. |
Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:44:00 -
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I flew cap ships once
Never again ...
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Cpt Branko
Surge. Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: MrAssasin Dude not everyone want to fly a cap ship. Pvp in the future will never be just about cap ship. Ya to be sucessful alliance u must have a decent cap fleet now adays and pvping is changing fast but caps billion doller ship that many cant afford and afford to lose every month, thay also take months to train and without a good support fleet cap fleets do go very far and do do very well. As far as your other statement 100 caps and some random bs; NO not true at all u need the dictors and ceptor and the outthisworldpwnagespeedtankingvagabonds and other support ship to do most of the dirty work and every day pvping and with a good FC and a nice balance fleet u can counter a cap fleet with some random bs. So form talking about fittings for ships that u say are out of date is crazy because its what makes eve so fun for us pvp pilots to find different setups for different ships to take out other ships like how to kill a vaga 1on1 which is very easy if u no what u doing and have the right ship. But my point is no matter how big your cap fleet is u will never be sucessful in 0.0 without good support fleets ships at all times-(HAC,HIC,BS,BC,RECONS,CEPTORS) ect the everyday pvp ship.
At least I could read the OP's post. He wins.
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Mr Ignitious
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Ignitious on 17/03/2008 02:50:41
Originally by: MrAssasin Dude not everyone want to fly a cap ship. Pvp in the future will never be just about cap ship. Ya to be sucessful alliance u must have a decent cap fleet now adays and pvping is changing fast but caps billion doller ship that many cant afford and afford to lose every month, thay also take months to train and without a good support fleet cap fleets do go very far and do do very well. As far as your other statement 100 caps and some random bs; NO not true at all u need the dictors and ceptor and the outthisworldpwnagespeedtankingvagabonds and other support ship to do most of the dirty work and every day pvping and with a good FC and a nice balance fleet u can counter a cap fleet with some random bs. So form talking about fittings for ships that u say are out of date is crazy because its what makes eve so fun for us pvp pilots to find different setups for different ships to take out other ships like how to kill a vaga 1on1 which is very easy if u no what u doing and have the right ship. But my point is no matter how big your cap fleet is u will never be sucessful in 0.0 without good support fleets ships at all times-(HAC,HIC,BS,BC,RECONS,CEPTORS) ect the everyday pvp ship.
i like you, and your logic. this man is just mad because he probably lost his carrier to a blob of 3 carriers its ok buddy, everything will work itself out in the end.
also, MrAssassin is very correct in saying you need the other support, because EWAR is a massive undertaking and repeatedly and consistently changes the tide of battle.
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: MrAssasin Dude not everyone want to fly a cap ship. Pvp in the future will never be just about cap ship. Ya to be sucessful alliance u must have a decent cap fleet now adays and pvping is changing fast but caps billion doller ship that many cant afford and afford to lose every month, thay also take months to train and without a good support fleet cap fleets do go very far and do do very well. As far as your other statement 100 caps and some random bs; NO not true at all u need the dictors and ceptor and the outthisworldpwnagespeedtankingvagabonds and other support ship to do most of the dirty work and every day pvping and with a good FC and a nice balance fleet u can counter a cap fleet with some random bs. So form talking about fittings for ships that u say are out of date is crazy because its what makes eve so fun for us pvp pilots to find different setups for different ships to take out other ships like how to kill a vaga 1on1 which is very easy if u no what u doing and have the right ship. But my point is no matter how big your cap fleet is u will never be sucessful in 0.0 without good support fleets ships at all times-(HAC,HIC,BS,BC,RECONS,CEPTORS) ect the everyday pvp ship.
At least I could read the OP's post. He wins.
haha
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:51:00 -
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Man dude, **** cap ships. You're never going to find me in one. Also, **** hotdropping carriers on my solo battleship. That **** gets old fast.
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MrAssasin
The Reappropriation Committee
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Posted - 2008.03.17 02:55:00 -
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LOL ya my grammer isnt the best but it true no support fleet not cap fleet
Flying minmatar ship is like takeing the seatbelt off while on a roller coster going 90degrees downword. |
Lithalnas
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.03.17 04:19:00 -
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i chuckle at people who think carriers are endgame, if they are endgame why do you not see fleets of them roaming around lowsec ganking miners and the like?
First they are expensive, they require a billion isk investment possibly more, second you have to invest over a year to just fly one. Do you want to fly around in 1 bil isk worth of ship with a giant, scamble me sign painted on it?
Second is that they are really not that useful, granted any carrier should be able to kill any sub cap ship in eve in a 'to the death' fight but thats not pvp in eve. Solo carriers die quite fast to pirates not to mention the locktime on a carrier is long enough for anything smaller than a battleship to get away. Carriers cant use jumpgates which means if the pilot has half a brain he is going to stay within docking range, if he starts gate camping he is a target for most small gangs to kill. -------------
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Yungwun
YungBloodz Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.17 04:36:00 -
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So from what i garner carriers are not worth it (already knew). but what about dreads. especially the MOROS. Yungwun Drools.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.17 04:57:00 -
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Why anything else than a Carrier? Hell, make that "capital ship", not just "carrier". Why ? Because:
* you are able to enter and/or move around highsec at will * you can be moving to another system without a cyno-alt or a cyno-buddy * you can enter other places no capitals can go to (like, say, deadspaces, for instance) * you can actually target something that's not another capital before it warps off
...and so on and so forth.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.17 05:27:00 -
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i regret training carrier skills... pointless waste of time as im never going to use one. i prefer small gang pvp. less lag.. if at all and more fun fights
PS: eve turnament does NOT represent real pvp on TQ... so mybe less carebearing and more pvp for the OP so he can see how its really done ? ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
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Windjammer
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.17 06:04:00 -
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Anybody who fly's a Carrier and thinks it's a solo pawnmobile ship is going to be losing the Carrier real quick. Carriers need to be in a group to be effective.
How many situations have we seen where a solo Carrier dies to a small group of ships. Two or three is plenty to take a Carrier out. There was even one case where a Raven beat a Carrier off. It just kept jumping around, breaking the Carriers target lock and pounding the fighters. Carrier pilot couldn't see the sense of losing his fighters in a fight he couldn't win, so he warped off.
Regards, Windjammer
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J Valkor
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 06:10:00 -
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Carriers are fun and can be real game turners if used appropriately. That being said, them being used poorly provides minutes of hilarious entertainment as they torn to ****.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.17 06:25:00 -
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At one point battleships were quite sparse because of cost and prerequisites. A carrier is never going to be the bulk of a gang, but it's logistics facilities mandate any gang encountering one to be of sufficient size to out dps what it's repping, and have a shot at bringing it down. I only get hotdropped a couple times a week, but give it a couple years and you'll start expecting every small gang to have a carrier, and have to prepare accordingly.
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ViperVenom
Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.03.17 09:34:00 -
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Carrier are good in gangs. But Solo not a good Idea..
Boo CCP!!!!
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Shaitis
Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.17 11:25:00 -
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I love to roam, if U will give me some clues about roaming in carrier, I'll do it ;p [/url] "What is funnier ? 20 Matari slaves pinned to one tree or 1 Matari slave pin |
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.17 11:39:00 -
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Hasn't this been already discussed to death ? Remove all carriers, and you can make the same post about battelships ("battelships online" whine whine whine "my kestrel has no chance against a battelship" whine whine whine). Remove all battelsphis and you can make the same post about battelcruisers. Remove all battelcruisers and you can make the same post about cruisers. Remove all cruisers and you can make the same post about destroyers. Remove all destroyers and you can make the same post about frigates.
So in the end you are proposing a game called "noobship online" - thank, but no thanks.
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Athar Mu
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.17 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Hasn't this been already discussed to death ? Remove all carriers, and you can make the same post about battelships ("battelships online" whine whine whine "my kestrel has no chance against a battelship" whine whine whine). Remove all battelsphis and you can make the same post about battelcruisers. Remove all battelcruisers and you can make the same post about cruisers. Remove all cruisers and you can make the same post about destroyers. Remove all destroyers and you can make the same post about frigates.
So in the end you are proposing a game called "noobship online" - thank, but no thanks.
Nope he is proposing "pod online" where we can't do any damage to each other and we fly around bumping into each other, having nice chats about the weather while drinking tea and biscuits.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.17 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Hasn't this been already discussed to death ? Remove all carriers, and you can make the same post about battelships ("battelships online" whine whine whine "my kestrel has no chance against a battelship" whine whine whine). Remove all battelsphis and you can make the same post about battelcruisers. Remove all battelcruisers and you can make the same post about cruisers. Remove all cruisers and you can make the same post about destroyers. Remove all destroyers and you can make the same post about frigates.
So in the end you are proposing a game called "noobship online" - thank, but no thanks.
Actually, a carrier is quite a different beast than the rest of that lineup, because it's the logistics and HUGE leap in tanking capability up from a battleship that are at issue. Capitals are hardly just another T1 ship class of size. Removing them this late in the game is ridiculous of course, but something must be done in regards to their mobility to limit their deployment to large scale battles which they are oriented around. It's only in small gang warfare that they're an issue. This is the change I advocate.
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