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banannagirl The U-B-H-C	Posted - 2008.03.19 01:35:00 - [1] Get rid of all bpo's for tech two ships but make bpc's regular drops all over eve in exploration etc. The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. Your still gonna have to train the skills to build them etc .. it will slow down the use of the high powered ships and make the game far more even far more regularly and the large ships far more powerful. Also add pos bpc's to the drops and tech two weapons etc etc. regards BG regards BG Link removed, advertising services for real world money is not allowed on the forums - Wrangler
Marcus TheMartin Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.03.19 01:37:00 - [2] No
Jack Brazen Blue. Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.03.19 01:38:00 - [3] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin No One word reply, yet such an effective statement in this thread. I concur, just because your reply was vastly more snappy than the OP. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight.
Segge Bolled Dirty Sexy Pilots	Posted - 2008.03.19 01:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Jack Brazen Originally by: Marcus TheMartin No One word reply, yet such an effective statement in this thread. I concur, just because your reply was vastly more snappy than the OP. /signed, and if I knew of a shorter way to say "/signed" coherently, I would have used it in support of brevity-in-smackdowns.
banannagirl The U-B-H-C	Posted - 2008.03.19 01:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Segge Bolled Originally by: Jack Brazen Originally by: Marcus TheMartin No One word reply, yet such an effective statement in this thread. I concur, just because your reply was vastly more snappy than the OP. /signed, and if I knew of a shorter way to say "/signed" coherently, I would have used it in support of brevity-in-smackdowns. lol was it the even the score that scared you off... regards BG Link removed, advertising services for real world money is not allowed on the forums - Wrangler
Kia Rash The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.03.19 01:52:00 - [6] Originally by: banannagirl Get rid of all bpo's for tech two ships ..... how?
sasf Blacksheep Incorporated Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:09:00 - [7] Let me quess, those who say 'no' to the ops idea have T2 BPO. How is it fair that i need to go through the invention process while players with T2 BPO do not?, and please dont use the excuse that those T2 BPO cost alot. Alot of those T2 BPO were obtained through the lottery. I believe they do need to be removed to make it fairer for newer players. And those players that lose them need to be reinburst somehow.
Jack Brazen Blue. Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:10:00 - [8] Originally by: sasf Let me quess, those who say 'no' to the ops idea have T2 BPO. How is it fair that i need to go through the invention process while players with T2 BPO do not?, and please dont use the excuse that those T2 BPO cost alot. Alot of those T2 BPO were obtained through the lottery. I believe they do need to be removed to make it fairer for newer players. And those players that lose them need to be reinburst somehow. Hmm... I count one person saying "No", and nothing else, and two people agreeing on that premise. Are you seeing someone I'm not? ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight.
Ren Surkova AirHawk Alliance Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:19:00 - [9] I dunno man new players already have it pretty easy
Ruah Piskonit PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:22:00 - [10] I always thought that T2 BPOs should be seeded like all the other BPOs. . .maby bought for LPs or something. But I know it will never happen. Be happy that there is invention at all - there was a lot of resistance to just that. ----

cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:26:00 - [11] Isn't Even the Score a mission or something? --- Join BH-DL Skills
Skelator Stronghold corp CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:27:00 - [12] And You THINK that the (Insert Country of choice)Sweatshops are ruining the game as it is? This suggestion would make the game 10X Worse! Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts. Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
cnuchavez State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin No lol
Firkragg 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:40:00 - [14] This isnt even a t2 bpo owner whine. It appears to be about limiting the number of t2 ships in game forcing prices up meaning more people will fly t1 ships. all i have to say to this is... no
sasf Blacksheep Incorporated Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.19 02:40:00 - [15] All i want is a T2 Invulnerabilty field BPO, is that really asking for too much? P.S those that have T2 BPO, I hate you
AKULA UrQuan STK Scientific Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.19 03:56:00 - [16] I do not want to be paying the same T2 prices I was paying 18 months ago.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.19 03:59:00 - [17] Edited by: Malcanis on 19/03/2008 03:59:54 Originally by: banannagirl Get rid of all bpo's for tech two ships but make bpc's regular drops all over eve in exploration etc. The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. Your still gonna have to train the skills to build them etc .. it will slow down the use of the high powered ships and make the game far more even far more regularly and the large ships far more powerful. Also add pos bpc's to the drops and tech two weapons etc etc. regards BG regards BG 2006 called. It wants it's whine back. There's already a mechanism for getting T2 BPCs... and limiting how far prices will fall. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
DeathAndTaxxes Alliance Tactical Research Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.03.19 05:57:00 - [18] Originally by: sasf Let me quess, those who say 'no' to the ops idea have T2 BPO. How is it fair that i need to go through the invention process while players with T2 BPO do not?, and please dont use the excuse that those T2 BPO cost alot. Alot of those T2 BPO were obtained through the lottery. I believe they do need to be removed to make it fairer for newer players. And those players that lose them need to be reinburst somehow. You do understand T2 BPO are bought and sold between player's everyday. Many BPO have changed hands many times over since the original lottery. What is you bought a T2 ship BPO today for 10-50 billion and tomorrow CCP made it disapear how "fair" would that be? How would CCP reimburse you? Based on the last contract price? That would be easy to scam. Sell it to a "friend" for 1 trillion ISK. I guess CCP owes you 1 trillion huh? What about T2 BPO aquired through stealing, attacks on freighters, direct trades in materials or other BPO? What about T2 BPO that are currently used as collateral for loans with banks like eBank? There is no effective or fair way to remove them from the game. Here is a hint though: Inventors set the price of T2 items not BPO owners. Stop worrying about T2 BPO owners and start worrying about your fellow inventors. This is evident by the frefall in T2 prices since Invention hit the game. Also some items have no T2 BPO yet their is no significant profit margin difference when you compare items with NO T2 BPO to items with T2 BPO.
Jeremy Paxman	Posted - 2008.03.19 07:39:00 - [19] Oversupply of t2 ship bpc's will make t2 ships more expensive and cause high inflation due to the escalation in price of t2 components if everyone and their mother was making them. There are only so many moons. -------------------- "this", quoth he, and lo, he was down.
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.03.19 07:42:00 - [20] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin No

El'Niaga	Posted - 2008.03.19 07:45:00 - [21] I'm all for removing the existing t2 BPOs, they should have removed them from the game when invention came out. I'm against making t2 BPCs drops. Let the inventors invent them and actually be able to make some money off of them, which is currently not possible on some items due to the t2 BPOs out there.
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.03.19 08:24:00 - [22] Originally by: banannagirl Get rid of all bpo's for tech two ships but make bpc's regular drops all over eve in exploration etc. The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. Your still gonna have to train the skills to build them etc .. it will slow down the use of the high powered ships and make the game far more even far more regularly and the large ships far more powerful. Also add pos bpc's to the drops and tech two weapons etc etc. regards BG regards BG no.. there is this small thing ingame called inevntion... ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
Rawr Cristina Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.19 08:32:00 - [23] I don't think T2 BPOs should be 'removed'. Maybe converted into infinate copies or something (so they can't be copied but can be produced infinately) or just a HUGE stack of limited-run BPCs. ...
El'Niaga Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.19 09:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Rawr Cristina I don't think T2 BPOs should be 'removed'. Maybe converted into infinate copies or something (so they can't be copied but can be produced infinately) or just a HUGE stack of limited-run BPCs. That would only continue the problem. They should be removed. Replacing them with something else just continues the imbalance we currently have.
Ewan Heaven Superior Research	Posted - 2008.03.19 09:33:00 - [25] Originally by: El'Niaga Originally by: Rawr Cristina I don't think T2 BPOs should be 'removed'. Maybe converted into infinate copies or something (so they can't be copied but can be produced infinately) or just a HUGE stack of limited-run BPCs. That would only continue the problem. They should be removed. Replacing them with something else just continues the imbalance we currently have. unbalance? what unbalance? do you seriously think that single t2 bpo owners still rule the market? invention has make it more fair, and t2 owners just have to stick to the market now (though yes they are the best competitors on cut sales) so NO to the op
Grimwalius d'Antan Aliastra	Posted - 2008.03.19 09:54:00 - [26] Originally by: banannagirl [...]The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. This made me want to throw up. That has never happened to me before. _______ Griefing is to ruin a friendly game, which Eve is not.
Silver Night Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.19 09:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: banannagirl [...]The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. This made me want to throw up. That has never happened to me before. I know how you feel. I'm just gonna stop posting in this thread tbh. Basically, No, Bad idea. Come back when you are a major capital or tech 2 producer and might have a hint of a clue of what you are talking about. Plus, should be in Game Features forum. Though the comedy value of seeing what they would do to this in the Market discussion forums makes me want to cross-post it thee with an alt. Cause it would be effing hilarious, if totally incomprehensible to the op. This forum whoring stuff is kinda addictive. Maybe I will try more of it. -------------- GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
banannagirl The U-B-H-C	Posted - 2008.03.19 10:08:00 - [28] Edited by: banannagirl on 19/03/2008 10:09:29 Originally by: Silver Night Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: banannagirl [...]The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. This made me want to throw up. That has never happened to me before. I know how you feel. I'm just gonna stop posting in this thread tbh. Basically, No, Bad idea. Come back when you are a major capital or tech 2 producer and might have a hint of a clue of what you are talking about. Plus, should be in Game Features forum. Though the comedy value of seeing what they would do to this in the Market discussion forums makes me want to cross-post it thee with an alt. Cause it would be effing hilarious, if totally incomprehensible to the op. This forum whoring stuff is kinda addictive. Maybe I will try more of it. LMAO .... Thats my point .... Titans were never supposed to be thrown around like cruisers you know. Watch the eve youtube battle movies that makes me want to throw up ... all those 'big' corps with all that isk to throw away. i would restrict corps to ten people also and make titans/capital ships rare like they are advertised as being. Your like dogs with bones the BPO owners - my bone my bone you make the bpc's drop then every player can be a part fo making capital ships ... derr neerrrrr ..! How many components in a capital ship ... ? How many people actually build any single part of capital ships ... say TEN corps ..? Pathetic, Make the components drop and you get EVERYONE making the capital ship parts. regards BG regards BG Link removed, advertising services for real world money is not allowed on the forums - Wrangler
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.03.19 10:11:00 - [29] Originally by: banannagirl Edited by: banannagirl on 19/03/2008 10:09:29 Originally by: Silver Night Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Originally by: banannagirl [...]The newer players might for example find BPC's of assault ships or covert ops in 0.7 space shadows or log books. Then hacs etc and the big ships bpc's in missions and officers drops and exploration. This made me want to throw up. That has never happened to me before. I know how you feel. I'm just gonna stop posting in this thread tbh. Basically, No, Bad idea. Come back when you are a major capital or tech 2 producer and might have a hint of a clue of what you are talking about. Plus, should be in Game Features forum. Though the comedy value of seeing what they would do to this in the Market discussion forums makes me want to cross-post it thee with an alt. Cause it would be effing hilarious, if totally incomprehensible to the op. This forum whoring stuff is kinda addictive. Maybe I will try more of it. LMAO .... Thats my point .... Titans were never supposed to be thrown around like cruisers you know. Watch the eve youtube battle movies that makes me want to throw up ... all those 'big' corps with all that isk to throw away. i would restrict corps to ten people also and make titans/capital ships rare like they are advertised as being. Your like dogs with bones the BPO owners - my bone my bone you make the bpc's drop then every player can be a part fo making capital ships ... derr neerrrrr ..! How many components in a capital ship ... ? How many people actually build any single part of capital ships ... say TEN corps ..? Pathetic, Make the components drop and you get EVERYONE making the capital ship parts. regards BG regards BG you are a troll... stupid one at that... if you cant comprehend how the market works.. dont post about it ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
banannagirl The U-B-H-C	Posted - 2008.03.19 10:21:00 - [30] Edited by: banannagirl on 19/03/2008 10:24:02 Edited by: banannagirl on 19/03/2008 10:21:57 lest we forget .... TITANS please note .... "The sheer cost in resources, manpower and time, as well as the necessary technological knowledge, makes construction of a Titan-class vessel a venture only empires can usually fathom. Some of these mammoth vessels have taken decades to assemble. Many are over a century old themselves, and the three mammoth Jovian motherships, the first Titans, have origins pre-dating modern space travel. They are maintained with constant upgrades, and at any given time, one of the three is out of commission while undergoing retrofits." regards BG Link removed, advertising services for real world money is not allowed on the forums - Wrangler



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