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teewii
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Posted - 2004.04.13 08:41:00 -
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Quote: Claiming to wave a banner of law, select corporations began to extort money from anyone wanting to enter Fountain. Many former denizens, with neutral intent, were shunned completely from any decisions about what happened to their homes. This banner of law which provided 'protection' for a 'safe' zone of space, was in fact nothing more than a lie. Under penalty of death a ransom was due.
Solo, you really try to give the impression FA was/is flying around scrambling anything they saw and demanding x amount of money or die.
i belive ppl was told to pay or leave. nothing more, however if they dident comply, or start talking crap, they would be placed on the kos list and targeted at any opertunity.
perhaps they aint saints, but have never heard of a pirate asking you to leave if you want to avoid confrontation..
have you?
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.13 09:09:00 -
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Please keep the replies civil and respectful, that included no trolling or flaming.
Thank you 
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.04.13 09:24:00 -
[33]
Your name makes me think of this song by Pearl Jam, which is not a bad thing imho 
This is not a hijack
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SOL0
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Posted - 2004.04.13 10:11:00 -
[34]
Edited by: SOL0 on 15/04/2004 20:53:49
Quote:
Quote: Claiming to wave a banner of law, select corporations began to extort money from anyone wanting to enter Fountain. Many former denizens, with neutral intent, were shunned completely from any decisions about what happened to their homes. This banner of law which provided 'protection' for a 'safe' zone of space, was in fact nothing more than a lie. Under penalty of death a ransom was due.
Solo, you really try to give the impression FA was/is flying around scrambling anything they saw and demanding x amount of money or die.
i belive ppl was told to pay or leave. nothing more, however if they dident comply, or start talking crap, they would be placed on the kos list and targeted at any opertunity.
perhaps they aint saints, but have never heard of a pirate asking you to leave if you want to avoid confrontation..
have you?
To the contrary, they rarely ask you to leave. If you do not have their pass they are more than happy to pod you. They are more than happy to pod you even if you do have a pss.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |

EVENFLOW
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Posted - 2004.04.13 11:11:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 12/04/2004 18:45:07 Don't Let That Shadow Touch Them
Lol. Opposide side of the coin, but i can still laugh at it. Just remember, it was propaganda back then.
/amused.
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Mary J
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Posted - 2004.04.13 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mary J on 13/04/2004 12:49:51 Nice pictures
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.04.13 12:52:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: Claiming to wave a banner of law, select corporations began to extort money from anyone wanting to enter Fountain. Many former denizens, with neutral intent, were shunned completely from any decisions about what happened to their homes. This banner of law which provided 'protection' for a 'safe' zone of space, was in fact nothing more than a lie. Under penalty of death a ransom was due.
Solo, you really try to give the impression FA was/is flying around scrambling anything they saw and demanding x amount of money or die.
i belive ppl was told to pay or leave. nothing more, however if they dident comply, or start talking crap, they would be placed on the kos list and targeted at any opertunity.
perhaps they aint saints, but have never heard of a pirate asking you to leave if you want to avoid confrontation..
have you?
To the contrary, they rarely ask you to leave. If you do not have their pass they are more than happy to pod you. They are more than happy to pod you even if you do have a pod.
Ok so much for everyone shutting up.
What you describe are the actions of a sovreign political entity with borders and territory. Is the United States a rouge entity because it will not allow potential foreign military units within its borders? Absolutely not.
Furthermore, if you are not pirates, why are you working with them? Last night I shot down 2 frigates in the same system. One was from revol, one was from pak. The revol pod did not have a bookmark to leave the system. Whilst I was camping the gate out of Fountain (the one hat headed towards d4 instead of yz) the PAK pod gave the revol pod a bookmark and they both proceeded to jump past me continuing on into aridia past a revol force which was in d4ku.
This was freely admitted by Kakalot, the revol pilot, and Torvus Jay, the PAK pilot. Torvus Jay also freely admits that he and his corporation are pirates (and we all know that they are). This is not any slight to kakalot or torvus, however, even while trying to leave the system in pods everyone was nice and there was no smack talk. It is just a fact that revolution constitutes a group of pirates who violate the space of a sovreign entity, work with other admitted pirates, and shoot people down indiscriminately.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.04.13 14:45:00 -
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Lou Lou the Alt wrote:
Quote: Evol, you are just puppets of Xanadu now.
Funny -- a CoRM guy camping MN5N-X said exactly the same thing just now...
a minute or so before we podded him...

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Serret
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Posted - 2004.04.13 14:51:00 -
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Baun wrote:
Quote: Whilst I was camping the gate out of Fountain (the one hat headed towards d4 instead of yz) the PAK pod gave the revol pod a bookmark and they both proceeded to jump past me continuing on into aridia past a revol force which was in d4ku.
Forgive my n00bishness, but how exactly does a pod (with no cargo bay) give a bookmark to another pod (also with no cargo bay)?
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.04.13 15:00:00 -
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Eris!
That was a masterpiece.... have some heart you sexy wench. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.13 15:01:00 -
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Baun, take a quick look at Kakalots corp history 
¼©¼ a history |

Lentia
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Posted - 2004.04.13 15:59:00 -
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We arent pirates, we are revolutionaries! 
We intend to liberate the denizens of Fountain, both new and old, from the evil empirialist grasps of XAN and BIG, who clearly call all the shots in FA and have manipulated the FA beauracracy to thier own capitalist ends.
Unfourtunately during this civil war many peeps may get caught in the cross-fire. All corps that were kicked out of F.A .by the X.A (Xanadu Alliance) will be considered friendly. All of those who choose to participate in the Xanadu Alliance will be considered hostile. |

Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.13 16:16:00 -
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Sheesh, ego striked again. So the fact that Torvus is my friend and he helped me get out of the system mean that REVOL as a whole is ebil? :P You asked me same question last night, that how could a pod give another pod bookmark. Heh,this shows you dont do pvp enough, or you are so good at it that you rarely end up in a pod, i guess. As for shooting down the 2 frigs of ours, i cant believe you could say it out loud, crow vs merlin o.0 You sound like Insane Angel again, in that it seems you actully had quite an accomplishment there  Mind you, i spent 3 weeks to bring my sec from -6.3 to -4.4. This shows how determined i am in joining REVOL and working with them. So enough of this piracy stuff, it's getting old. Oh wait, you're from Eve Marshall so those who are your enemmies are pirates :S Cya in space 
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http://users.pandora.be/zebras/Kakalot.jpg |

Baun
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Posted - 2004.04.13 16:23:00 -
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I don't claim that a crow destroying a merlin and an incursus is any great victory. It wasn't. That part put the story in context. Furthermore, I wasn't **** talking kak, you know that, so there is no need for you to do it. I am simply relating the facts of the matter than Revol does not act against and indeed cooperates with known pirate groups. If they didn't kakalot would not have cooperated with torvus and torvus's frigate would not have been able to get in Fountain (through d4) nor would his pod have been able to exit (through d4).
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.13 16:42:00 -
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It's quite simple Baun. He's a friend and was kind enough to help me out of the situation. I didn't want to lose implants over some fun we had, plus it hurts my pride :P
With a frigate Torvus could jump in and warp away easy, likewise he has bookmark to jump back to hop. So technically he cant be stopped. So you assumed a lil bit too much there.
Last point, REVOL didn't claim to be anti-pirate AFAIK. We just shoot certain ppl 
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http://users.pandora.be/zebras/Kakalot.jpg |

Baun
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Posted - 2004.04.13 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 13/04/2004 16:51:24 He could have been stopped at the hop gate in d4, or possibly on the way back at the l-a5 gate in d4. This assumes, however, that you had frigs capable of locking other frigs (the pod may have been uncatchable).
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:00:00 -
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Hey would u guys please stop hijacking my revolutionary rheutoric thread with all these boring details bout who podded who stuff please? 
trying to do some PR and RP here, thanx! |

Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:02:00 -
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Yes could we please get back on topic, hold hands, sing songs, and hate Xanadu together??? 
The Chronicles of Xanadu |

Lentia
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:17:00 -
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Thank you Temu, sheesh! |

Firebyrd
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:50:00 -
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its funny, i dont know which side to cheer for, u guys should pick a D-Day sorta both sides meet on a battle field and have an old fashion bar brawl, and see who comes out winner, lol i'm sitting on the side line, and i'm having fun watching this, nowing that one day i'll have to choose sides, but till then, pass the popcorn ----------------------------------------------- In the End , there can be only 1
Today we celebrate, for tomorrow we die
learn from yesterday, that u may be stronger tomorrow
May the force be with us all |

SOL0
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:55:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote: Claiming to wave a banner of law, select corporations began to extort money from anyone wanting to enter Fountain. Many former denizens, with neutral intent, were shunned completely from any decisions about what happened to their homes. This banner of law which provided 'protection' for a 'safe' zone of space, was in fact nothing more than a lie. Under penalty of death a ransom was due.
Solo, you really try to give the impression FA was/is flying around scrambling anything they saw and demanding x amount of money or die.
i belive ppl was told to pay or leave. nothing more, however if they dident comply, or start talking crap, they would be placed on the kos list and targeted at any opertunity.
perhaps they aint saints, but have never heard of a pirate asking you to leave if you want to avoid confrontation..
have you?
To the contrary, they rarely ask you to leave. If you do not have their pass they are more than happy to pod you. They are more than happy to pod you even if you do have a pod.
Ok so much for everyone shutting up.
What you describe are the actions of a sovreign political entity with borders and territory. Is the United States a rouge entity because it will not allow potential foreign military units within its borders? Absolutely not.
Furthermore, if you are not pirates, why are you working with them? Last night I shot down 2 frigates in the same system. One was from revol, one was from pak. The revol pod did not have a bookmark to leave the system. Whilst I was camping the gate out of Fountain (the one hat headed towards d4 instead of yz) the PAK pod gave the revol pod a bookmark and they both proceeded to jump past me continuing on into aridia past a revol force which was in d4ku.
This was freely admitted by Kakalot, the revol pilot, and Torvus Jay, the PAK pilot. Torvus Jay also freely admits that he and his corporation are pirates (and we all know that they are). This is not any slight to kakalot or torvus, however, even while trying to leave the system in pods everyone was nice and there was no smack talk. It is just a fact that revolution constitutes a group of pirates who violate the space of a sovreign entity, work with other admitted pirates, and shoot people down indiscriminately.
I do not recognize The Fountain Alliance's sovereignty. Your point therefore is moot.
"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." |

Insane Angel
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:01:00 -
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Quote: You sound like Insane Angel again, in that it seems you actully had quite an accomplishment there 

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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:04:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: You sound like Insane Angel again, in that it seems you actully had quite an accomplishment there 

Didnt we kill you last night? Was either a Raven or Apoc wasnt it ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:06:00 -
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Date Ship Type Victim Killed By Comments 4/14/2004 Raven Insane Angel Rev0l Patrol CEO Eve Marshalls :)
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What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:12:00 -
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I thought so! I dont really rememmber names of people i kill 
Nevermind eh? lol!  ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.04.15 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 15/04/2004 22:07:58
Quote: Posted - 2004.04.15 21:12:00 - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought so! I dont really rememmber names of people i kill
Nevermind eh? lol!
Quote: Posted - 15/04/2004 21:19:00 - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 15/04/2004 21:20:50 (double post - my bad)
Arguing with people who have to lie even when bumping own threads is so pointless

The Chronicles of Xanadu |

Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 22:24:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 15/04/2004 22:07:58
Quote: Posted - 2004.04.15 21:12:00 - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought so! I dont really rememmber names of people i kill
Nevermind eh? lol!
Quote: Posted - 15/04/2004 21:19:00 - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 15/04/2004 21:20:50 (double post - my bad)
Arguing with people who have to lie even when bumping own threads is so pointless

Lol great to see the political mastermind of Xanadu show how low his skills are.
It is actually called a back-up button... i didnt see the post that i made posted, so i re-posted... so hard to understand? Nub. ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.04.15 23:07:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 15/04/2004 22:07:58
Quote: Posted - 2004.04.15 21:12:00 - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought so! I dont really rememmber names of people i kill
Nevermind eh? lol!
Quote: Posted - 15/04/2004 21:19:00 - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 15/04/2004 21:20:50 (double post - my bad)
Arguing with people who have to lie even when bumping own threads is so pointless

Lol great to see the political mastermind of Xanadu show how low his skills are.
It is actually called a back-up button... i didnt see the post that i made posted, so i re-posted... so hard to understand? Nub.
Learn to delete posts. Nub.
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Torvus Jay
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Posted - 2004.04.16 00:18:00 -
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Come now Baun i told you i wasnt there to pirate this is the chat log from local.
[ 2004.04.13 03:17:43 ] Kakalot > ahhh its PAK :P [ 2004.04.13 03:18:00 ] Kakalot > torv go ownzor his elite frig for me [ 2004.04.13 03:18:09 ] Kakalot > i got owned >:| [ 2004.04.13 03:18:47 ] Torvus Jay > pfft i am here to fight for the glory of FA die rebel [ 2004.04.13 03:19:04 ] Baun > haha [ 2004.04.13 03:19:10 ] Baun > ill copy that for sara :p [ 2004.04.13 03:19:16 ] Torvus Jay > LOL [ 2004.04.13 03:19:17 ] Kakalot > ;[ [ 2004.04.13 03:20:38 ] Kakalot > \o/ the rebellioin
As u can see i offered to help destroy the rebel Kakalot but this Baun laughed at me. As such i was forced to put the entirety of the NFA on my personal KOS list it is not my fault baun that u burn bridges!!!
And how about stop the blatant attempts at character assassination on the rev0l corp. They are no more pirates than the alliance that you marshals joined. ______________
Aim careful, and look the devil in the eye. |

Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.16 00:41:00 -
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Viva la revolucion' or something like that :)
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What Aerick has been up to lately.. |
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