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Daziel Iaar
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.25 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Daziel Iaar on 25/03/2008 18:05:22 Such hypocrisy from the Gallente. You openly declare war against us and then make out we are the agressors when we had no interest in Gallente space in the first place. Remove the declaration and you will not have to worry about us infringing upon your space.
Although the fact you are mostly found in Minmatar space i really can't see how you will even notice the difference.
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Tahj
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 25/03/2008 12:17:08
Originally by: Tahj where are the reports from todays engagements?? Though i doubt you will have much to say about that. It was not nearly as successfull as this one....you actually had a fight
I'm not aware of any engagements so far today.
Are you perhaps referring to yesterday's fights in which an Omerta Syndicate pilot lost multiple vessels or the destruction of a U'K hauler carrying war supplies and the subsequent execution of its pilot?
Of course, such victories do not always come without cost, and PIE did also lose some vessels yesterday.
Now, such engagements in either Empire or Republic space are all in a day's work for PIE pilots, and not really anything to do with Archbishop's press release.
The purpose of the press release, in case you hadn't realised it, was that following Strix's unprovoked declaration of war on loyalist groups the Federation has now been added to our patrol routes.
well that being said you do not need to go into Fed space to engage strix we are supporting our minmitar allies. So your patrols into Fed space are completely unjustified. Last i checked we were a corp not a faction
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:11:00 -
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On the contrary, intelligence suggests that whilst it's true that you do have pilots based in the Republic, you also have some based in the Federation.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Tahj
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:13:00 -
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well we all know how far Amarr "intelligence" really goes
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Daziel Iaar
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:16:00 -
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Do you not see?, by declaring war on us you are literally inviting us to enter Gallente space, especially since you wish to "defend" gallente space from us.
You can not declare war on the premise of defending Gallente space and then turn around and say you have no reason to be here, when you are the very reason we are there. We had no reason to enter Gallente space before, now we do and you are the sole reason, be ready to reap the consequences of your actions.
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Azure Skyclad
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:09:00 -
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A golden light in Luminaire?
Did you bend over and part your arse cheeks again Archie?
Tsk tsk 
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Admiral Serrano
Raata Fleet Command
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:08:00 -
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My compliments to Admiral Archbishop,
It seems that in response to aggression from federation loyal forces, PIE Inc. has planned and executed a perfectly routine "advance to contact" patrol order.
Ordinarily such a mission would be of little special account to warrant public attention however I believe Admiral Archbishop is simply trying to make a point.
Namely that in response to the unsolicited declaration of war by Strix Armaments and Defence a mixed force of Pie Inc and Vigilia Valeria ships offered combat in federation space, which is claimed (for defence purposes) by Strix Armaments and Defence in their corporate information.
And that for what ever reasons Strix Armaments and Defence did not take up the challenge offered. I don't think its much more complicated that this and I can understand the Admirals reasoning for wishing to make it known.
Anyway I wish to pass my compliments onto the pilots of Pie Inc and Vigilia Valeria for a well executed patrol. Military competence, duty, and discipline under fire are virtues any Caldari citizen can appreciate. Virtues the federation forces did not want to challenge this time around.
I shall look forward to further updates as they come in.
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:56:00 -
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I find it irritating how certain Caldari paramilitaries always tell Federal paramilitaries to stay out of their business, and yet immedietely stick their nose into issues that aren't any of theirs. Really shows the rest of the State-loyal paramilitaries who are far more reasonable. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics 30m ISK is SERIOUS BUSINESS! |

Admiral Serrano
Raata Fleet Command
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris I find it irritating how certain Caldari paramilitaries always tell Federal paramilitaries to stay out of their business, and yet immedietely stick their nose into issues that aren't any of theirs. Really shows the rest of the State-loyal paramilitaries who are far more reasonable.
Everything the federals do is the business of the Caldari, eternal vigilance is the price of peace. We learned the hard way that the freedoms the federals peddle are actually quiet expensive when bought from the vendors of "liberty & democracy"
I will say this however; a public announcement generates public interest, I have every right to comment here, as are you. A right that you are obviously willing to abuse.
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Serrano Everything the federals do is the business of the Caldari, eternal vigilance is the price of peace. We learned the hard way that the freedoms the federals peddle are actually quiet expensive when bought from the vendors of "liberty & democracy"
I will say this however; a public announcement generates public interest, I have every right to comment here, as are you. A right that you are obviously willing to abuse.
Tu quoque. If eternal vigilance is the price of peace, we must always be wary of the insidious Patriot-faction megacorporations and their disregard for moral standards and their blind hatred for anything Federal. It's utterly justified to spy on them as much as we wish with no regard to their rights or responsibilities because it's quite obvious that their aim to take away everything we hold dear.
... which is of course an utterly absurd statement. If you seriously think that every action that any member of the Federation takes is part of an overarching and gigantic plot to take the independance of the Caldari State away from them you have a serious case of unwarranted self-importance.
Heck, I like Caldari. I respect (some of) you guys. It's the Amarr Empire I don't like - nothing to do with you, unless you choose to make it that way. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics 30m ISK is SERIOUS BUSINESS! |

Ikasu
Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:33:00 -
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I see this becoming a politic flame war fairly quickly. I find it disturbing how all the Empires continuity hate each other and wish the Federation and State could come to a peaceful resolve. If anything, this thread is not the place to bicker among ourselves about Federation and State....stuff in general. --------------------------------------------------
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Admiral Serrano
Raata Fleet Command
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:00:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris, You really do love to put words into peoples mouths don't you...
I don't think I really need to point out the serious errors in your statement ...
Well ok I do.
It was the federation not the Caldari whose actions caused the war that caused great harm to both our peoples. So any "self-importance" with regard to federation is hardly "unwarranted"
Further, at no point did I mention any sort of conspiracy on the part of any federal faction or militia. It is simply a fact that the federation is a meddling, tyrannical, and greedy empire, obviously these "qualities" could easily be attributed to all the main empires. However only in the Amarr do we see a similar egomaniacal determination and assumption that "our" way is the only way approach to inter-stella relations.
It therefore follows that all nations will likely monitor all other nations even if relations are "friendly" in public, with recent enemies it is a given.
Arrogant federals like you Andreus Ixiris are part of the reason why there will never be a true peace between our cultures. You can't even reply to a simple statement without mutating the actual sentiment and words of my text into some slanderous attack.
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Karanth
Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Serrano Andreus Ixiris, You really do love to put words into peoples mouths don't you...
I don't think I really need to point out the serious errors in your statement ...
Well ok I do.
It was the federation not the Caldari whose actions caused the war that caused great harm to both our peoples. So any "self-importance" with regard to federation is hardly "unwarranted"
Further, at no point did I mention any sort of conspiracy on the part of any federal faction or militia. It is simply a fact that the federation is a meddling, tyrannical, and greedy empire, obviously these "qualities" could easily be attributed to all the main empires. However only in the Amarr do we see a similar egomaniacal determination and assumption that "our" way is the only way approach to inter-stella relations.
It therefore follows that all nations will likely monitor all other nations even if relations are "friendly" in public, with recent enemies it is a given.
Arrogant federals like you Andreus Ixiris are part of the reason why there will never be a true peace between our cultures. You can't even reply to a simple statement without mutating the actual sentiment and words of my text into some slanderous attack.
It was the Caldari who started it, by going behind the backs of the rest of the Federation. Your government signed articles with the Federation, and we signed them in good faith. The State, on the other hand, used that good faith to take systems and claim them illegally.
It's a tired argument, but then, the cost of keeping historical fact correct is eternal vigilance against those who rail against it, and try to subvert the truth to feed their own agendas.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:03:00 -
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How ironic that this should take place almost exactly three years to the day after our last Mission of Mercy.
The rotten pit of ignorance and depravity that is Luminaire has not changed much.
Oh and once again my brethren in PIE demonstrate their willingness to seek out those who wish to harm the Empire, wherever they may be inclined to hide in the shadows. ----------------------------------------------
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Admiral Serrano
Raata Fleet Command
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
It was the Caldari who started it, by going behind the backs of the rest of the Federation. Your government signed articles with the Federation, and we signed them in good faith. The State, on the other hand, used that good faith to take systems and claim them illegally.
It's a tired argument, but then, the cost of keeping historical fact correct is eternal vigilance against those who rail against it, and try to subvert the truth to feed their own agendas.
The Caldari never signed away their right to rule their own, or the right to establish new holdings.
It was federation greed over things that were not theirs that widened an already growing rift, but no doubt the federation sanctioned orbital bombardment of civilians was a reasoned reaction by the freedom loving gallente people in your opinion.
I deplore the actions of those raving lunatics who attacked Nouvelle Rouvenor, but understand that they did so on their own it was not the Caldari people or government who did that, yet millions of innocents paid the price because gallente freedom is the only freedom that matters in the federation.
The federations hypocrisy is evident with the support of the the Minmatar forces against the Amarr, you support their freedom movement now. But as you tried with the Caldari not so long ago you will eventually demand your price for this "help" and in the end the Minmatar may just end up with a two front war as you exact your pound of flesh for "free onions and liberty"
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