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Memio Aliastra	Posted - 2008.03.24 18:42:00 - [1] I'm just about to start doing L4's and the Thron is going to be my ship of choice. After messing round with EFT for an hour or so this is the best setup I can come up with given fitting skills of: Electronics 5 Engineering 5 Weapon Upgrades 4 Highs 7 x 425 Prototype Gauss Gun (Antimatter) 1 x Arbalest Heavy Missile Launch (Damage specific) Mids 10mn AB II 3 x Cap recharger II Lows Large Armour repairer II 2 x damage specific active hardeners Damage control II Mag stab II Reactor control I Co processor I Not sure whether to use T2 medium drones or T1 Heavies (T2 not trained) Undecided on rigs due to expense This is the best I can come up with given my skills and I dont really want to go down the T2 route for the rails as I'm only going to be using it purely to make isk, for pvp I favour frigates and the T2 variants. Any help or advice appreciated. ____________________________________________________
Krayzee Online Assault	Posted - 2008.03.25 18:10:00 - [2] I dont use a mega for missions, but having tried in the past with various setups I can throw you a few ideas. 1. You're gonna need a better tank, 1 rep and 2 hards isnt gonna cut it. Think I ran mine with 1 perma running medium rep II and a large rep II for the initial agro with 3 hardeners, which just about worked for most missions. Tho I think these days most peeps fit 2 large reps. 2. Lose the 425's. Much easier to fit 350's (so you can lose the fitting mods too), and the tracking on 425's sucks meaning your DPS will suck against anything smaller than a BS that gets remotely close to you. 3. For drones, I'd go with 5 lights and whatever else you want, your guns will do fine against the bigger stuff, so you really need your drones to be more suited against the frigates. 4. You might wanna consider fitting a webber, depending on what missions you get. I get a lot of angel missions from my agent and a lot of those guys like to orbit under 10k. Anyways, theres some things to be thinking about, and hopefully someone else who's used the ship more for missions than I have can give you some better advice. Good luck :-) Better dead than smeg
Nasair School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.25 18:14:00 - [3] Originally by: Krayzee I dont use a mega for missions, but having tried in the past with various setups I can throw you a few ideas. 1. You're gonna need a better tank, 1 rep and 2 hards isnt gonna cut it. Think I ran mine with 1 perma running medium rep II and a large rep II for the initial agro with 3 hardeners, which just about worked for most missions. Tho I think these days most peeps fit 2 large reps. 2. Lose the 425's. Much easier to fit 350's (so you can lose the fitting mods too), and the tracking on 425's sucks meaning your DPS will suck against anything smaller than a BS that gets remotely close to you. 3. For drones, I'd go with 5 lights and whatever else you want, your guns will do fine against the bigger stuff, so you really need your drones to be more suited against the frigates. 4. You might wanna consider fitting a webber, depending on what missions you get. I get a lot of angel missions from my agent and a lot of those guys like to orbit under 10k. Anyways, theres some things to be thinking about, and hopefully someone else who's used the ship more for missions than I have can give you some better advice. Good luck :-) If you dont fit a mega with 425mm you are better off going for a rokh. Plus you dont need a web for those battleships that get close (if they manage to though) you just match their velocity and heading.
Krayzee Online Assault	Posted - 2008.03.25 18:42:00 - [4] Quote: If you dont fit a mega with 425mm you are better off going for a rokh. Plus you dont need a web for those battleships that get close (if they manage to though) you just match their velocity and heading. While this is true, it also means your wrecks end up spread all over the place, meaning it takes ages to salvage and loot, which negates any time saved from killing stuff faster (assuming you are going to salvage and loot that is). This is one of the reasons I gave up on the mega and switched to a raven, even tho I had Gal BS V and lev 5 in generic gunnery skills (only bothered to get L turret to lev 4)and virtually no shield or missile skills, or caldari ship skills for that matter. This was all a long long time ago mind (back before T2 weapons were in game) so maybe the mega is a bit better at missions these days Better dead than smeg
Eneela M University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.25 20:10:00 - [5] avoid co processors and RCU's at all cost! this will fit with the same skills & has more tank & gank: High: 7x 425 proto, 1x cruise launcher Mid: 4x Cap recharger II Low: Amarr navy LAR(only 50m ish), 3x hardner, 2x mag stab, 1x beta cap relay rigs: 2x aux nano, 1x nano bot
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.03.25 20:14:00 - [6] Here's an idea for mission running in a megathron. Don't. The domi is far better. Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
Gimpb Sturmgrenadier Inc Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.03.25 20:30:00 - [7] Edited by: Gimpb on 25/03/2008 20:31:56 Originally by: Atomos Darksun Here's an idea for mission running in a megathron. Don't. The domi is far better. I'm not so sure, rats changing targets and randomly attacking drones as of this patch has kinda put a damper on things. :( Note: I'm assuming mission rats are functioning the same as normal rats.
Borasao Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.25 20:49:00 - [8] I think the Hyperion is a better missioning BS than the Megathron, personally. Same damage bonus, one more gun, more grid, and a tanking bonus.
Borris Bovishnikov Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.03.25 20:54:00 - [9] i use the hyp for missions, my drone skills are lame so the domi isnt a good choice for me if i remember correctly i run mixed rack of 350/425 II's cap chargers, tracking comp LAR, 3 hardeners, 2 damage mods 2 armor rigs and a CCC. after spending much time trying to make the mega work i ponied up the cash for the hyp. does more damage anyways :D a shiny rep makes this ship much nicer. i break 530 dps apparently and rep better than 1800 a cycle. chews thru guristas BS like nothing else (except maybe a kronos)
Mogren CCCP INC	Posted - 2008.03.25 22:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Gimpb Edited by: Gimpb on 25/03/2008 20:31:56 Originally by: Atomos Darksun Here's an idea for mission running in a megathron. Don't. The domi is far better. I'm not so sure, rats changing targets and randomly attacking drones as of this patch has kinda put a damper on things. :( Note: I'm assuming mission rats are functioning the same as normal rats. I haven't seen it happen in missions or belt rats since the patch and I use drones as my primary DPS.
Castynn Abh Empire Carpe Universitas	Posted - 2008.03.25 22:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Gimpb Edited by: Gimpb on 25/03/2008 20:31:56 Originally by: Atomos Darksun Here's an idea for mission running in a megathron. Don't. The domi is far better. I'm not so sure, rats changing targets and randomly attacking drones as of this patch has kinda put a damper on things. :( Note: I'm assuming mission rats are functioning the same as normal rats. This ONLY happens if you get too far out of the rat's optimal range. Seems to occur mostly with BS rats because of their slow turning & higher inertia. Knowing the different ranges for the different rats is key to successful ratting especially when your drones are involved.
Gimpb Sturmgrenadier Inc Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Castynn This ONLY happens if you get too far out of the rat's optimal range. Seems to occur mostly with BS rats because of their slow turning & higher inertia. Knowing the different ranges for the different rats is key to successful ratting especially when your drones are involved. Thx, that explains it.

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