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Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 03:41:00 - [1] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 03:43:12 Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 03:42:18 Originally by: Angelonico And as for the "ham" drake. All that grid and nerfing your range significantly for 50 more dps? Are you kidding me? actually it is the best gank bc of all. most dmg (620 dps), most possibly EHP with gank setup(about 85k) and shield tanking is much cooler then armor tanking ;)
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 03:44:00 - [2] Originally by: Angelonico Edited by: Angelonico on 25/03/2008 03:42:45 Originally by: Cpt Cosmic Originally by: Angelonico Balance in all things and all that. Stress what the race does well - and pursue that. Don't waste isk and sp on making a drake or cerb into a dps boat. actually it is the best gank bc of all. most dmg (620 dps), most EHP (about 85k) and shield tanking is much cooler then armor tanking ;) Go try to 1v1 any other tier 2 bc with your HAM drake there brosef. I think you'll be a bit dissapointed. Drakes are antifrig/cruiser support ships. Nothing more... in PVP anyway. looks like you have no clue, and I already did pvp in a ham drake, maybe you should do it yourself lol
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 03:46:00 - [3] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Angelonico Go try to 1v1 any other tier 2 bc with your HAM drake there brosef. I think you'll be a bit dissapointed. Drakes are antifrig/cruiser support ships. Nothing more... in PVP anyway. I've engaged 2 Hurricanes and a Myrm in my Drake (solo). I won. -Liang yeah he probably dont know how to fit it XD
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 03:52:00 - [4] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 03:54:16 frig defense lol as a good frig pilot would stay under fire, btw do you know how long it takes to kill a drake with 72k EHP (this is with MWD+Web+Disruptor) with frigs only? and btw you are not alone, you have your gang -.- slowest bc, maybe it is but you have 20km range with your short range weaponry, compare that to blasters or AC which loose much dmg in falloff. even then javelin hams do still about 5% more dps then normal heavies :)
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 04:00:00 - [5] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 04:01:39 you get tackled you die? if 10 bs shooting you, you die too? lol bad argument, so every ship dieing under fire is bad cause it dies gang pvp is all about who dies first, being able to bring dmg and surive abit under fire while not having to travel 10km to be @inyourface range it is all it needs and tackling dont kill, turrets/missiles kill you surviving and killing others first is king.
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 04:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Angelonico I'd rather be in a falcon, curse, sacrilege, christ - ANYTHING in a gang besides the cerb. true, it just scream shoot me I cant tank even for a few seconds :)
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 04:07:00 - [7] Quote: Meh, enough story time. Suffice it to say that the Drake is a great PVP ship in lowsec. I use mine in low sec too, works like a charm. I hope we never meet, would be a bloody fight ;)
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 04:11:00 - [8] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 04:17:51 Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 04:13:41 1. it is 25% more dps 2.the difference of 100m/s is nothing while webbed, you can web back. dictating range is not necessary with 20km range compared to other short range weapons, which lacks in dmg above 10km. 3.why do you need more than 20km range in pvp? most fights are under 15km and if you rly need those extra km switch to javelin hams which still do 5% more dmg then normal heavies. blaster also have much shorter range, your argumenst are flawed.
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 06:37:00 - [9] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 06:38:47 Originally by: Angelonico 25% more dps = 50 more dps. Some EFT warriors out there help me out with the specifics. Fitting a web/scram screws your huge passive tank (the one good thing the drake does) Most combat in eve is either up close on a gate (much more common) or extreme range. HAM'ing up a drake gets you 50 more dps at cost of it's best attribute: it's tank. Your arguments are flawed. If you want a high dps ship, fly a torp raven or another race. It's that simple. Drake is a great support ship - obsolete's the cerb easily - but is still just another caldari missile boat. I'd rather be in a falcon every single time. you are a fail. all you are saying is, drake is not good for dmg cause a bs can do better lol. A dread/titan can also do much more dmg then a bs, so bs are crap? actually a drake is more agile then a bs and enters into warp faster that means it can be a nice addition to a fast roaming gang or a cheap throw away gank ship. drake with HML + CN Ammo + 3 bcu does 415 dps without drones drake with HAMS + CN Ammo + 3 bcus does 520 dps. it does 105 dps more I will show you one pvp fit cause you have no clue lol Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I 72k EHP, 520 DPS without drones, Passive Recharge equals medium armor repper II lol, beat that with any other bc. Using a torp raven may be a good idea but the raven is even slower then the drake, it cost much more, is harder to fit properly and it needs atleast ONE target painter to be good that means it has virtually no tank or it doesnt have mandatory MWD+WEB+SCRAM outfit.
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.03.25 08:23:00 - [10] Originally by: Angelonico ::sighs:: The drake is a fail because it's dps is pathetic and can only tank. I love how people try to argue their way around that. A drake with HAMS and tackling gear in meds is far FAR more fail than I ever will be. Save your money and buy a harbinger. I'm merely highlighting the stregths of caldari. Their e-war, their range, their utility. I'm sorry i'm dogging your ships brosef, don't take it personally. haha epic fail you never was in pvp, thats the proof. 1.520 dps arent pathetic, harbinger does about the same dps with LESS range(both not taking drones into account, both with faction ammo and a common pvp fit) so you failed here 2.it has more EHP than a harbinger. you failed again. 3.the drake is more agile and faster then the harbinger even without plating the harb. team megafail strikes again! 4.I love people that post crap and have no clue about it and think they are right. oh noes fail! 5.you already disqualified and made an epic fail in another thread posting a Sac setup with 6 lows, thats another proof you have no clue. nbar fail 6.thx you made my day
Cpt Cosmic Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2008.03.25 09:27:00 - [11] Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 09:29:09 actually I dont do any personal attacks, only fun out of people :) and you dont have to like me I never said it is uber and I posted it already above.

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