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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:14:00 -
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I did read a topic on the general discussion where one complained about that not enough noobs (me including) and others never move down to 0.0 systems.
A Petition for a Better PvP System
Imho I think that it is the pirates fault, not that I don't like that part of the game, being a miner myself I don't mind pirates doing their job.
What I do mind is gate camping that keeps people from wanting to go to a 0.0 system...
So my challenge to you pirates are.... stop gate camping, hunt down pirates that do such things and let noobs (me including) and others that want to go to lower systems get there without the danger of being killed at the gate.
If I get killed out in the system no problem, atleast give me a chance to get to the system 
I think that the best solution is that pirates fix this problem themself rather than letting CCP fix it with more Sentry guns and stuff.
I really do think people will move into 0.0 system and give you pirates more targets to have fun with, if you just let them get into the system rather than killing a few at the gates.
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"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things."
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:20:00 -
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Ok I'll let you pass so the regional alliance can blow the crap out of you. Np 
Actually, since Gates/stations are the only place for viable PvP in 0.0 and empire space, I cant see why pirates (or anyone for that matter) should leave them at all.
Get a bship, get some friends, charge the gate blockade and make your way into 0.0 areas. If you cant do that, you're prolly not ready to go into 0.0 anyway.
Sorry, but these cookies are tough 
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Arcticblue2 on 14/04/2004 09:38:51
Oh I have lost one Vexor in Gangmining in a 0.1 system and by all means... was fun enough that the ship was insured well and I was able to buy a Thorax the day after (needed proper skill you know).
But as the original tread where I did put the link to states that they want more people to move into 0.0 space.
I would love to do just that, and no I don't have the skills or a battleship to get into that alone.
I don't even see why I should waste some isk to do such a thing, I would be happy if I could last to get out to the system... and I think you guys would be more happy with better kills or ransom for that matter.
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I don't say leave them at all.. just let people in so you have more to hunt down/rob
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"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things."
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.04.14 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/04/2004 09:49:31
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Edited by: Arcticblue2 on 14/04/2004 09:38:51
Oh I have lost one Vexor in Gangmining in a 0.1 system and by all means... was fun enough that the ship was insured well and I was able to buy a Thorax the day after (needed proper skill you know).
But as the original tread where I did put the link to states that they want more people to move into 0.0 space.
I would love to do just that, and no I don't have the skills or a battleship to get into that alone.
I don't even see why I should waste some isk to do such a thing, I would be happy if I could last to get out to the system... and I think you guys would be more happy with better kills or ransom for that matter.
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I don't say leave them at all.. just let people in so you have more to hunt down/rob
This is an old argument and wont carry I'm afraid. Vice is right its not the Pirates you have to worry about (well not all the time anyway) once you get into 0.0 its the Alliances. And TBH whats the difference between getting killed at the entrance to 0.0 and getting killed in 0.0 ? At least if you havent entered 0.0 your not going to lose your load of bistot.
The same problem you describe is also applicable to experienced players.
My advice is wait till your ready or join a strong corp that either is part of one of the Alliances claiming part of 0.0 or strong enough to chase the pirates off the gates and get into 0.0.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Polux
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:32:00 -
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Plz don't call them pirates. there just murderers They don't do this for money.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:38:00 -
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And Mr.Generalization steps onto the scene... 
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:41:00 -
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Plz don't call them pirates. there just murderers They don't do this for money.
Pay me ten million ISK and I'll forget you said that.
See? It is about the money!! 
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Gift
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Posted - 2004.04.14 14:02:00 -
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I did read a topic on the general discussion where one complained about that not enough noobs (me including) and others never move down to 0.0 systems.
A Petition for a Better PvP System
Imho I think that it is the pirates fault, not that I don't like that part of the game, being a miner myself I don't mind pirates doing their job.
What I do mind is gate camping that keeps people from wanting to go to a 0.0 system...
So my challenge to you pirates are.... stop gate camping, hunt down pirates that do such things and let noobs (me including) and others that want to go to lower systems get there without the danger of being killed at the gate.
If I get killed out in the system no problem, atleast give me a chance to get to the system
I think that the best solution is that pirates fix this problem themself rather than letting CCP fix it with more Sentry guns and stuff.
I really do think people will move into 0.0 system and give you pirates more targets to have fun with, if you just let them get into the system rather than killing a few at the gates.
umm...lets see.....nope
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Lamech
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Posted - 2004.04.14 14:33:00 -
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Quote:
I did read a topic on the general discussion where one complained about that not enough noobs (me including) and others never move down to 0.0 systems.
A Petition for a Better PvP System
Imho I think that it is the pirates fault, not that I don't like that part of the game, being a miner myself I don't mind pirates doing their job.
What I do mind is gate camping that keeps people from wanting to go to a 0.0 system...
So my challenge to you pirates are.... stop gate camping, hunt down pirates that do such things and let noobs (me including) and others that want to go to lower systems get there without the danger of being killed at the gate.
If I get killed out in the system no problem, atleast give me a chance to get to the system
I think that the best solution is that pirates fix this problem themself rather than letting CCP fix it with more Sentry guns and stuff.
I really do think people will move into 0.0 system and give you pirates more targets to have fun with, if you just let them get into the system rather than killing a few at the gates.
If you really wanted to go to 0.0 you would find a way around gate camping. If you pay attention to who is in local and where you are going you won't get ganked at a gate. Gate camping does do a service to this game. It stops people from putting autopilot on and leaving their computer. Quit whining about gate camping and ifyou really want to get to 0.0 find an alternate route if you run into a gate camp.
the BIG L
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2004.04.14 14:52:00 -
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Well..uhmm..aehhh...hmmm.. In my opinion a "noob" have nothing to do in 0.0 space. All know that most 0.0 systems are warzones anyway, so if u loose ur little ship in these areas -> dont start crying. And btw..what a "real" noob doing in 0.0? Shooting NPC¦s? -> No! Mining? -> No! PVP? -> No! Flying arround and Spy? ->Yes, in most cases!
So dont wonder if you will be shot down and btw... who¦s ur main charakter ..huh?
"Get in where u fit in!"
"-V- Minister of foreign affairs"
"CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.04.14 15:23:00 -
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Well..uhmm..aehhh...hmmm.. In my opinion a "noob" have nothing to do in 0.0 space. All know that most 0.0 systems are warzones anyway, so if u loose ur little ship in these areas -> dont start crying. And btw..what a "real" noob doing in 0.0? Shooting NPC¦s? -> No! Mining? -> No! PVP? -> No! Flying arround and Spy? ->Yes, in most cases!
So dont wonder if you will be shot down and btw... who¦s ur main charakter ..huh?
Yep is a miner, so my main mission there would be to mine something valuble I suppse
My main character is this actually told you I was a noob and did something very very stupid  when I started playing this game and had to use my a alt, and when I had got some experience I did not wanna swap person again
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"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things."
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2004.04.14 21:24:00 -
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<--- NOOB---> pvping alot latly in my rifter, even taking out npc cruisers and stuff down in my humble Rifter. Well sometimes I have to run, but its should be like that when a BIG MOFO comes along ur way.
Great Game!
1 month 26 days in EwE.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.04.14 22:45:00 -
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Disclaimer: check my other posts, particularly the ones originated by me if you want to know where I stand on lame game play.
Having offered a disclaimer I have to say that "gate camping" is not what goes on in 0.0 space. "Gate camping" in my understanding of the term happens in questionable areas and is more about griefing than anything else. "Blockades" are what happen in 0.0 space. "What's the difference?" Glad you asked.
0.0 space is intended to be lawless. Therefore what happens there simply can't be labeled as "lame" or "griefing" unless it is exploiting, which falls under cheating and is lame no matter where it occurs (and will be handled by CONCORD's big brother, GM).
My corporation has recently lost 6 or so ships in low security operations. We were prepared to lose every one of them. Be prepared for the same if you try to carry out operations in 0.0 space.
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:22:00 -
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Plz don't call them pirates. there just murderers They don't do this for money.
did someone gank u for your lolipop u poor wittle thing u
seriuosly pirates make money....on the side
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:26:00 -
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I did read a topic on the general discussion where one complained about that not enough noobs (me including) and others never move down to 0.0 systems.
A Petition for a Better PvP System
Imho I think that it is the pirates fault, not that I don't like that part of the game, being a miner myself I don't mind pirates doing their job.
What I do mind is gate camping that keeps people from wanting to go to a 0.0 system...
So my challenge to you pirates are.... stop gate camping, hunt down pirates that do such things and let noobs (me including) and others that want to go to lower systems get there without the danger of being killed at the gate.
If I get killed out in the system no problem, atleast give me a chance to get to the system
I think that the best solution is that pirates fix this problem themself rather than letting CCP fix it with more Sentry guns and stuff.
I really do think people will move into 0.0 system and give you pirates more targets to have fun with, if you just let them get into the system rather than killing a few at the gates.
tbo i think there r more Carebears then any other type of player hence the reason why theres not that many players ventureing to 0.0 imo anyways.
Or u could just join an Alliance, you'll get plaenty of pvp and good ore to mine in the Alliance area's.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:09:00 -
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I agree with vice. If you aren't aware of the dangers, or are unprepared to face them, then 0.0 is not the right place to go.
The pirates roaming the chokepoint systems are easy to spot and avoid. The roamin 'patrols' are less easy to avoid.
As a pirate, I will holdup/converse/destroy/extort/gank people for my entertainment, and for some flash money/loots.
When you get out the the alliance 'patrolled' areas, it's the same thing, as far as the victim is concerned, just that the perpetrator will claim he's doing it to 'secure his space', 'protect his roids' or worse, 'because you aren't allowed here'.
no matter which one catches you, the end result will be the same; you will appear at your clone station, reading an evemail about some dude that wrecked your ship.
As you can see, it's just a game of words.
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:12:00 -
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You may not want to admit it, but deep down you really like us.
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Candy
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Posted - 2004.04.15 15:19:00 -
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No.
Damn, that was easy.
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Archain
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Posted - 2004.04.15 19:14:00 -
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Archain: If you only knew the power of the Dark Side. Drunkenmaster never told you what happened to your father.
Candy: He told me enough. He told me you killed him.
Archain: No. I am your father.
Candy: No. That's not true. That's impossible!
Archain: Search your feelings you know it to be true.
Candy: Nooooo. Nooooo.
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.04.15 21:18:00 -
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Quote:
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Plz don't call them pirates. there just murderers They don't do this for money.
did someone gank u for your lolipop u poor wittle thing u
seriuosly pirates make money....on the side
Who was it that made that great quote:
The difference between a carebear and a pirate is that pirates mine bistot for thier isk instead of veld...wasn't it J. Calvert?
I don't know why every one thinks the groups are so different, pirate and pirate corps make tons of isk mining just like everyone else. Deny it all you like but everyne knows the truth :D
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.04.15 22:32:00 -
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C'mon, a little expierence can get you a long way if you know how to use it. Mine, jump the blocaked and your home free.
it's easy.. I just won't give away my trade secret. Once they work it out and figure out how to stop it.. then I'll either think for something or move on.
and to be fair, gate camping in 0.0 is the only way to pirate in this game. Huniting is not as easy as it seems.
By the way Vicroy, nice kill earlier today. Free Kudos for that one :p
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.04.16 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 16/04/2004 01:18:18
If you can get into 0.0 then you darn better find a way to get out.
In 0.0 it's kinda like the movie "roadwarrior". You have your disaffected former MFP Highwaymen, a few n00b Feral Kids, some unsuspecting Gyro Captians, guys like the Lord Humungus out the arse all with their Wez, Golden Boy and Toadie followers, not too mention a whole flock of "carebear" Pappagallos...
All fighting for that precious "Gasoline" - Ark, Bist, etc.
Why change that?
Wez: They kill us, we kill them! Kill them! Kill them! Kill! Kill!
The Humungus: Be still my dog of war. I understand your pain. We've all lost someone we love. But we do it my way! We do it my way. Fear is our ally. The arkanor will be ours. Then you shall have your revenge.
Toadie: Greetings from The Humungus!
The Lord Humungus!
The Warrior of the Stain Wasteland!
The Ayatollah of Rock and Rollah!
The Humungus: I am gravely disappointed.
Again you have made me unleash my dogs of war.
Look at what remains of your gallant frigate scouts.
Why? Because you're selfish!
You hoard your arkanor.
Now, my prisoners say...
...you plan to take your megacyte out of the Fountain Wasteland.
You sent them out this morning to find a industrial hauler.
A rig big enough to haul that fat load of megacyte.
What a puny plan!
Look around you.
This system is the Valley of Death.
See!
Nothing can escape! The Humungus rules the Curse Wasteland!
There has been too much violence, too much pain.
None here are without sin.
But I have an honorable compromise.
Just walk away.
Give me the player controlled stations...
...the arkanor...
...the bistot...
...and the whole region, and I'll spare your lives.
Just walk away. I will give you safe passage in the Venal Wasteland.
Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.
I await your answer.
You have one full day to decide.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2004.04.16 07:08:00 -
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I have to agree with Drunkenmaster. 0.0 is basically an enter at your own risk area. If you can't hack it don't go. If you run across a seasoned pirate and get ganked take your beating and cope. I am a hunter but I know when to not bark up the wrong tree if you do its your own damn fault, also if your a pirate with a dinky corp don'y ***** if a large corp roles out in mass to beat you down, you brought it on yourself. They have noobs they want to train and you just gave them the opprotunity.
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