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two cursor
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.25 00:45:00 -
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I tried to kill them with my nano-ishtar in low-sec several times.
my plan is... I put MWD on and web them and *****with ogre II.
but they drain my cap and attack with EM missiles and light/med drones.
usually im almost dead when I webbed them.
I didnt think that i can win them....
teach me how to beat them!!!
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Thak'ur
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.25 00:56:00 -
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 Originally by: two cursor
I tried to kill them with my nano-ishtar in low-sec several times.
my plan is... I put MWD on and web them and *****with ogre II.
but they drain my cap and attack with EM missiles and light/med drones.
usually im almost dead when I webbed them.
I didnt think that i can win them....
teach me how to beat them!!!
put a real tank on your ship?
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two cursor
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.25 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Thak'ur
Originally by: two cursor
I tried to kill them with my nano-ishtar in low-sec several times.
my plan is... I put MWD on and web them and *****with ogre II.
but they drain my cap and attack with EM missiles and light/med drones.
usually im almost dead when I webbed them.
I didnt think that i can win them....
teach me how to beat them!!!
put a real tank on your ship?
usually i put one extender II on med slot.
but its melted down too fast by their EM missiles :P
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boutia
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.25 01:08:00 -
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Shield hardners and rechargers.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 01:11:00 -
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Sentry drones/Ogre II's + a friend in a rapier? 
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two cursor
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.25 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: two cursor on 25/03/2008 02:21:36
Edited by: two cursor on 25/03/2008 02:19:25
Originally by: boutia
Shield hardners and rechargers.
there is no slot for those :(
my med slot setting is...
MWD/WD/Web/med injector/LSE or LSB
Originally by: techzer0
Sentry drones/Ogre II's + a friend in a rapier?
its nice tactics imo:D but can i kill them in solo?
i used sentry drone(Garde I or Bouncer I) once. he avoided it tracking speed reason.
and its very deficult to do this tactics in solo....
thats why I wanna chase him but sentries didnt follow me:P
anyways, I wanna try again it when getting T2 sentries.....
(more range and more tracking speed)
anyone know that t2 sentries will work this?
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 02:38:00 -
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Yeah I haven't taken on a curse solo in anything really, only been able to make one run away with a passive fit drake...
I don't see too many flying solo, so I haven't gotten the chance to try anything out, so I figured I'd throw an idea out there anyhow. If you're set on sticking with your HAC to take him on I don't know what to tell you... but I do know a domi can get Warrior II's up to 9km/s or so, although he'd just MWD out of point range.
So, who's lost a curse solo and wants to share? 
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Dianeces
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: two cursor
how to kill nano-curse?
Did you try shooting it?
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Lithalnas
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.03.25 03:28:00 -
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injectors and smartbombs?
drones go poof and the curse is defanged.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
injectors and smartbombs?
drones go poof and the curse is defanged.
I completely forgot it's a drone boat... shows that I fly amarr 
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Corwain
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.03.25 05:41:00 -
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Falcon, Rapier and a baitship. 1v1 you're prolly only gonna make him run though. Really more of a nanoship problem than a curse problem.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 06:07:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 25/03/2008 06:08:36
Originally by: Corwain
Falcon, Rapier and a baitship. 1v1 you're prolly only gonna make him run though. Really more of a nanoship problem than a curse problem.
Don't start that... 
I'd say it's not so much of a nano problem, because any like-class ship you take up against it is pretty much going to get capped out and be damped enough that it'll lose. If i really cared I'd trying thinking of an anti-curse fit for a ship rather than blaming it on a style of fitting that works.
And your sig contradicts what you said completely... unless you're one of the very very few who actually tank a curse.
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Corwain
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Posted - 2008.03.25 06:47:00 -
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My sig is really about the Pilgrim, not the curse. And I should probly update the link to link to the current active Pilgrim thread, not the original that has long since been locked.
I've flown a curse both ways. I love to fly it armor tanked as it handles much like an Arbitrator on steriods that way and less like a mini-ishtar that rapes other ships cap. However, I also dislike buying new Curses and nanoing it is pretty much the remedy to that.
1v1 I see no way to kill a good nano-Curse pilot, however it is very easy to kill a armor tanked curse 1v1. Thus, my conclusion is that the problem is one of nanos, and not the curse. You're welcome to your own opinion, it's not like I started a "nerf nanos" thread.
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Leylla Gainsborought
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Posted - 2008.03.25 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Leylla Gainsborought on 25/03/2008 06:52:44
Trying to do it with your ishtar will be a bit hard tbh...
If you kill him thats cause he made a mistake.
Unfortunaly the ishtar cannot kick a real nano ship due to drone, the only way you have chance is to fir it with neutralizer / cap injector / web and maybe fast drones like Light t2 or med T2 with good skillz. But fitting this will reduce your tank. Double edge...
I'd just try to blast him with some Nulls
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techzer0
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
My sig is really about the Pilgrim, not the curse. And I should probly update the link to link to the current active Pilgrim thread, not the original that has long since been locked.
I've flown a curse both ways. I love to fly it armor tanked as it handles much like an Arbitrator on steriods that way and less like a mini-ishtar that rapes other ships cap. However, I also dislike buying new Curses and nanoing it is pretty much the remedy to that.
1v1 I see no way to kill a good nano-Curse pilot, however it is very easy to kill a armor tanked curse 1v1. Thus, my conclusion is that the problem is one of nanos, and not the curse. You're welcome to your own opinion, it's not like I started a "nerf nanos" thread.
Yeah... just got back from the one in GD. Much stupidity regarding nanos in there. Nobody likes replacing a ship that cost them 80-150+mil to set up.
I suppose flying a races ships that actually have a tank the way they were originally designed is a big thing, but I will never ever armor tank a Vagabond (lol)... so nano nerfing is bad from my standpoint.
Curse is a wicked ship, but all it can do is tackle you if you kill the drones... unless for some odd reason there's a Curse pilot who fits guns 
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:10:00 -
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Heavy pulse laser II + Nano newb = kiss kiss bang bang
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Corwain
My sig is really about the Pilgrim, not the curse. And I should probly update the link to link to the current active Pilgrim thread, not the original that has long since been locked.
I've flown a curse both ways. I love to fly it armor tanked as it handles much like an Arbitrator on steriods that way and less like a mini-ishtar that rapes other ships cap. However, I also dislike buying new Curses and nanoing it is pretty much the remedy to that.
1v1 I see no way to kill a good nano-Curse pilot, however it is very easy to kill a armor tanked curse 1v1. Thus, my conclusion is that the problem is one of nanos, and not the curse. You're welcome to your own opinion, it's not like I started a "nerf nanos" thread.
Yeah... just got back from the one in GD. Much stupidity regarding nanos in there. Nobody likes replacing a ship that cost them 80-150+mil to set up.
I suppose flying a races ships that actually have a tank the way they were originally designed is a big thing, but I will never ever armor tank a Vagabond (lol)... so nano nerfing is bad from my standpoint.
Curse is a wicked ship, but all it can do is tackle you if you kill the drones... unless for some odd reason there's a Curse pilot who fits guns
Actually most decent curse pilotes fit missiles these days.
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Boomershoot
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:11:00 -
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like fore every damn nanoship, you'll need a specialized minmatar ship to get it to stop and then another random ship to fire at it before the uggin/rapier/hyena loses his cap.
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot
like fore every damn nanoship, you'll need a specialized minmatar ship to get it to stop and then another random ship to fire at it before the uggin/rapier/hyena loses his cap.
You're not a very good player, are you?
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: kublai
Originally by: Boomershoot
like fore every damn nanoship, you'll need a specialized minmatar ship to get it to stop and then another random ship to fire at it before the uggin/rapier/hyena loses his cap.
You're not a very good player, are you?
That's the brute force solution. I agree with your Heavy Pulse II comment... Lasers hurt a lot since the tracking increases.
@Boomer - what is wrong with a specialized minmatar ship? You need a falcon to ECM effectively, a Lachesis to damp effectively (sorta)... so get a Huginn friend so you can web/paint. Makes sense to me... Oh, but I'm cross trained over three races rather than refusing to change my play style and adapting (except I hate the idea of having to slow my ships down... No!)
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Tashiell Gao
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.25 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Tashiell Gao on 25/03/2008 09:26:53
omg, clicked "post reply" before write anything, even before i decided to reply. 
but anyway, can a tanked curse kill it?
Tashiell Gao,
Minmatar RolePlayer.
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Corwain
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.03.25 14:58:00 -
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I'd say in a curse vs curse fight if one is armor tanked it's probly not gonna be able to kill the other curse. It might not die though. In a nano vs. nano fight in most cases the curses will cap each other out then their MWDs will deactivate. Now most of the time their inertia will carry them out of scram range of each other, if they're still in neut range though they'll keep each other from reactivating MWDs except for a pulse here or there and probly hit a stalemate, and eventually warp away from each other barring outside interference.
If they somehow end up in scram range of each other it kind of comes down to weather they can keep each other pointed, and who has the better drone and missile damage skills vs how much effective HP they each have. This can be slightly affected by tactics like killing drones with missiles etc. FoFs work wonders cause you just set em to fire and they'll keep hitting the drones with no delay for relocking. Of course I've never carried FoFs in my curse, I just know that cruise ravens have killed all my drones easily and quickly with em even while jammed. 
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Lady Aleksandra
Metal Machine
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Posted - 2008.03.25 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
injectors and smartbombs?
drones go poof and the curse is defanged.
I've had people try this as a defence against my drones, but smartbombs need cap to work and since the curse can nuke your cap* it then necomes a high slot wasted. Curse is a pretty lethal ship, even if not nanoed. The tracking disruptor bonus is great against gun-boats, and the cap neut bonus can leave your enemy dead in the water. However, that's not to say a curse is invincible. There are two things that make me run - Missiles (defender missiles just dont work well enough for me to be comfortable) and secondly (which makes me run faster than a Raven) is a Hugin/Rapier. 30k (circa) webber and missiles makes my curse cry. Thankfully I've not lost a curse yet...
* Just a side-note, has anyone been able to inject faster than the curse can neut, stable long enough to kill one?
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:39:00 -
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use teamwork.
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Corwain
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.03.25 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
use teamwork.
Brilliant! Why did nobody think of that before?
Oh yeah. Cause those two words mean jack **** except that you need to bring more than one person.
Care to enlighten us with a battle strategy?
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Anfauglith
Retired Soldier Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:16:00 -
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1. Hurricane + web
2. Muninn + web
3. See 1
4. See 2
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:35:00 -
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easy, don't fly nano-ishtar, r nano anything else for that matter.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:37:00 -
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Rapier/Huggin shoudl fix your issue....nano ships are fun till your webbed at 40km from another ship thats doing 3km/s
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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The Mute
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:46:00 -
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Use webs and cap injector.
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Aya
The Illuminati.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 15:57:00 -
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your setup sucks thats why you cant kill it
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