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Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 07:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Sephra Star on 26/03/2008 07:23:19 TAVISTOCK
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.03.26 07:18:00 - [2] Would it hurt "conspiracy theorists" so much to add some decent CSS formatting to their web-pages ? Seriously. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 07:19:00 - [3] Edited by: Sephra Star on 26/03/2008 07:20:20 Originally by: Akita T Would it hurt "conspiracy theorists" so much to add some decent CSS formatting to their web-pages ? Seriously. The CIA had to admit to MKUltra finally note the use of the term ôtotally depatterned.öin the article. A quick over on Project MKUltra
Sirial Soulfly Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.26 07:40:00 - [4] Originally by: Akita T Would it hurt "conspiracy theorists" so much to add some decent CSS formatting to their web-pages ? Seriously. Any decent looking website obviously will have been created by the 'man' and hence be unreliable.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 07:41:00 - [5] THE RIPPLE EFFECT
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 08:05:00 - [6] Edited by: Sephra Star on 26/03/2008 08:05:37 Examples of documented "False Flag Terrorism" The form of Government we endure is a ôplutocracyö (government by the wealthy) who lie, cheat, assassinate, instigate acts of terrorism and then blame scapegoat_nations and support/fund terrorist regimes and dictatorships as long as their dictators dance to their corporate tune.
Ilvan Post with your Brain	Posted - 2008.03.26 08:41:00 - [7] _______________________________ In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only lag
Multras D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.26 08:48:00 - [8] Psyops ftw. Thanks to EVE Art Store for the sig.
LUH 3471 Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.26 09:03:00 - [9] nothing new really psychological warfare has been used for thousand of years to make poeple easily manipulative just pick up some history book shrug
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 09:20:00 - [10] Edited by: Sephra Star on 26/03/2008 09:20:54 Originally by: LUH 3471 nothing new really psychological warfare has been used for thousand of years to make poeple easily manipulative just pick up some history book shrug It is only in the last century that technology has been available to enhance the techniques. Evidently President John F Kennedy was a Conspiracy Nut. (James K. Galbraith, "Exit Strategy: In 1963, JFK ordered a complete withdrawal from Vietnam," Boston Review, October/November, 2003 ) indicates Kennedy also gave a press conference on Vietnam on 11/12/63 A week before his assination he signed an Executive Order to put the Federal Reserve out of business.
LUH 3471 Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.26 09:37:00 - [11] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 26/03/2008 09:46:05 people know more or less that they are constantly being cheated by the "system" poeple are not dumb they are only alittle bit helpless because there is so much crazy stuff in their heads so much that they mix up black with white so instead of posting more and more info and overload the already overloaded intellects of people further why not start a contrutive discussion about how we ourselfs may unload all that crap which makes our minds spin around and lead a more conscious life consciousness is key consciousness is bliss, intelligence, love, wisdom and ecstacy thats what life is about now how to bring about change in the outside world for that first we have each for his own to look inside and get some clarity (read: clean up) there is no other way
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 09:38:00 - [12] Edited by: Sephra Star on 26/03/2008 09:47:51 Originally by: LUH 3471 people know more or less that they are constantly being cheated by the "system" poeple are not dumb they are only alittle bit helpless because there is so much crazy stuff in their heads so instead of posting more and more info and overload the already overloaded intellects of people further why not start a contrutive discussion about how we ourselfs may unload all that crap which makes our minds spin around and lead a more conscious life evryone has to start the revolution in his or her own mind to bring about change in the outer world there is no other way well said... A good way to start would be to reject television programming in favor of real life fireside chats with real people. Imagine if all the peoples of industrial world collectively boycotted television programming and cancelled all subscriptions to cable and satellite companies. Keep the internet though. For now.
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.26 09:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Sephra Star A good way to start would be to reject television programming in favor of real life fireside chats with real people. that assumes that... a. people don't analyse and discuss what they're seeing on TV, often as they see it. b. old jeb's cosy fireside chats aren't full of **** he made up after drinking meths.
LUH 3471 Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.26 10:08:00 - [14] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 26/03/2008 10:17:22 rejection will naturally happen on its own accord when the average consciousness of individual rises through direct experience of their already inherent shining bliss consciousness opening of the nervous system to higher functioning and so on day or night the sun always shines ! this can be achieved by cleaning up the inner space from the psychological urine through various practices like 10-20min morning and evening meditation it can be easily integrated by evyone and has tremendous benefitting effects on our whole nervous system and beyond which we with our infant intellect cant even begin to grasp science is slowly becoming aware to all of this aswell and thus also the major public silent revolution has already started so if we want to contribute something to our own well being and aswell as that of others around us we can start cleaning the inside space and then radiate our already naturally inherent bliss consciousness we will become a magnet for poeple and transform them without any word ever spoken
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 10:14:00 - [15] The Truth Behind Commercial Television 5 minute video
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:17:00 - [16] Sephra, I think cutting the Earth's population by 5/6ths is a dandy idea. Can you imagine how clean and peaceful the place would be afterwards? Where do I sign up to join this conspiracy of yours? EVE RELATED CONTENT
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:24:00 - [17] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 26/03/2008 12:26:20 Originally by: SoftRevolution Sephra, I think cutting the Earth's population by 5/6ths is a dandy idea. Can you imagine how clean and peaceful the place would be afterwards? Where do I sign up to join this conspiracy of yours? how would you like to be one of those that are exterminated if that was the case? didn't work that one out yet did you? thought you were on the "saved" list didn't you? if there was such a list, then you would have to do something/have a capability to do something that benefitted the species and wasn't born out of your own selfish desires for fame and glory but dedicated to the progress and evolution of the species as a whole, and that is why you wouldn't qualify if such was the case, hypothetically. be careful what you wish for. anyways.. sephra, dude.. lay off these fear threads allready.. i'm allmost bordering calling them spam.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:26:00 - [18] Originally by: SoftRevolution Sephra, I think cutting the Earth's population by 5/6ths is a dandy idea. Can you imagine how clean and peaceful the place would be afterwards? Where do I sign up to join this conspiracy of yours? Your already signed up. We all are. One way, or the other.
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:39:00 - [19] This is what happens when you no longer have the survival of the predominate genes and all genes can be passed on. -------------------------------------------
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.03.26 12:52:00 - [20] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 26/03/2008 12:56:53 Originally by: Shanzem This is what happens when you no longer have the survival of the predominate genes and all genes can be passed on. as much as i understand your point, what you have just said is an oxymoron because you are with that saying that evolution do not work, since we are currently one of the highest evolved lifeforms on our sphere. and you have also set yourself up to have your lineage removed per evolutionary theory since evolution is about progressing the species and doing for the species instead of solely for yourself alone. and since you are arrogant in your ways and look down on your own species, you are thus not progressing it and your genes are therefore "unwanted" elements. but evolution does work, and the genes you think are unecessary are definitively required for various reasons such as catalysts and learning experiences for others, and to produce certain genetic compositions and fusions. and most people you arrogantly assume are stupid or ignorant have other causes for that besides their genes, which actually plays a remarkably small factor besides physical capabilities and structure. mental capability and inspiration and creativity (those that benefit the species) are only slightly dictated by the genome, the physical part of the genome dictates physical predisposition and there are many other parts to the genome/dna than the genetic structural component assemblies, but how you apply what you have been given dictates if you are suitable to help the species evolve or not. Inexorably the most important factor of evolution is choice.
Thuranni The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:24:00 - [21] You are pretty much the worst poster on EVEO.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Thuranni You are pretty much the worst poster on EVEO. at least I'm consistent.
Maximillion Carter Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:27:00 - [23] I have engaged the use of my tin-foil hat for the duration of this thread mxc
Thuranni The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:27:00 - [24] Originally by: Sephra Star Originally by: Thuranni You are pretty much the worst poster on EVEO. at least I'm consistent. Bravo, that post was pretty good. You're no longer the worst poster on EVEO, keep it up!
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Thuranni keep it up! I will. I promise.
Fink Angel The Merry Men	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:35:00 - [26]
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.26 13:56:00 - [27] Edited by: Shanzem on 26/03/2008 14:00:39 Edited by: Shanzem on 26/03/2008 13:59:05 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 26/03/2008 12:58:56 Originally by: Shanzem This is what happens when you no longer have the survival of the predominate genes and all genes can be passed on. oh boy. Firstly the theory of Evolution states Evolution Survival of the fittest Survival of the fittest Genetic algorithm Genetic_algorithm Ok now we have that in order, lets begin firstly there are many variable's that effect a human passing on there genes some of this are social, lets look at my saying from this aspect. Social network Now let say our friend here is within a social network of lets say something less then desirable of socially acceptable choice. the reason this is socially unacceptable is because it was deemed worthless or useless, undesirable within the up brining of a social society that has set standards. these standards are there for the stands that socially acceptable which they use as a guideline. a good example of this is (Marilyn mason dating Britney spears) both of which are from very different backgrounds for which you find very two different and dominate cultures or social networks. can you see them dating no... why? because of social and cultural reasons. so how does this effect what i said? Think long ago back when man was living in a cave the only thing that matted was the pro dominate of the gene or survival of the fittest, this kept the most useful and well developed of our species alive and thriving. and thus created the basis upon which are today and why we look like we do today. as the world has moved on and mutation accord and the lack of variable's which could seriously effect a gene have been removed (only other effect now is illness and genetic disorders) is why we have such a large and diverse set of genes and no working standard model which we removed our selfs over time. is why we have people like Sephra Star and others like him walking around. Nothing personal chap, but lay off the weed. put down the bong -------------------------------------------
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.26 14:41:00 - [28] Edited by: Sephra Star on 26/03/2008 14:42:47 Originally by: Shanzem Nothing personal chap, but lay off the weed. put down the bong I am thinking you need to consider taking the oposite of your own advice for yourself. Strangely enough though I was surprised your inferred insult was not to suggest that I should be smoking the bong. Although it might surprise you my blood and urine are quite clean and have been for a very long time. I wouldn't be surprised if I just happened to be more than twice your age. I am quite certain I am older by far than at least 80 percent of the registered members of EVE.
LUH 3471 Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.26 14:55:00 - [29] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 26/03/2008 14:57:59 there should be tax on evry word we utter would save the planet earth alot of suffering one can only truly feel sorry for individuals who prematurly judge over evrything thinking in terms like right or wrong its totally self-degrading
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.03.26 15:00:00 - [30] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 26/03/2008 15:00:05 Originally by: Shanzem stuff what a marvelous misunderstanding you have of evolution, your own species, your fellow humans, and of yourself. reread what i wrote and ponder it for a while. it might also assist you to read _the content_ of the links you referred to, specifically the first one, and this time do so intensively.
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.26 16:18:00 - [31] Edited by: Shanzem on 26/03/2008 16:19:42 Edited by: Shanzem on 26/03/2008 16:19:07 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 26/03/2008 15:00:05 Originally by: Shanzem stuff what a marvelous misunderstanding you have of evolution, your own species, your fellow humans, and of yourself. reread what i wrote and ponder it for a while. it might also assist you to read _the content_ of the links you referred to, specifically the first one, and this time do so intensively. in all due respect i did mention that is more then one i was looking at this from a social side to evolution. in fact this is how tribes work in Africa and other poor parts of the world, females are given money to look after there small village and Dependant who makes those critical choice is all derived from a social order, there for that small village or the genes within that village all really upon. and are effected by a social dominate environment. I am currently busy with RL stuff so bare with me on this block of text -------------------------------------------
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:08:00 - [32] I am quite certain most of you will want to check this out. Just don't discuss it.
Bish Ounen Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:27:00 - [33] WOW! Look! A WHOLE THREAD FULL OF CRAZY!
Kathryn Dougans B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:34:00 - [34] My friend works for the government. He recently went on a course to do with the safe handling of human corpses. Official Secrets Act signing as well. That sort of thing isn't part of his normal job. Interesting, isn't it?
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.27 21:39:00 - [35] Edited by: Sephra Star on 27/03/2008 21:42:26 Originally by: Kathryn Dougans My friend works for the government. He recently went on a course to do with the safe handling of human corpses. Official Secrets Act signing as well. That sort of thing isn't part of his normal job. Interesting, isn't it? When the United States invaded Panama we had to use Bulldozers to burry the civilians. I only mention Panama because I was in the military during that time period. In fact it was my unit that made the international media on TV. 4th Group PSYOP. We were the ones surrounding the Vatican Nuncio blasting the Rock N Roll music from our loudspeakers.
Kathryn Dougans B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:20:00 - [36] Yes, but South Ayrshire is not exactly a war zone.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.03.27 22:34:00 - [37] Originally by: Kathryn Dougans Official Secrets Act signing as well. The funny thing is, it is criminal law, everyone is bound by it anyway. The signing is a ritual more than a formality however, it is very useful as it creates a sense of duty, obligation or intimidation in people over and above what they would otherwise feel interacting with that environment. Quite a lot of that side of things is the art of creating opportunities for irrational additional compulsion based on - rationally - nothing. Obviously you can't argue that when it is a condition of your employment, but knowing it is *******s should take the edge off. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.27 23:28:00 - [38] Are You Still Brainwashed?
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.03.28 00:55:00 - [39] Sephra, please stop telling people about the subliminal messages in internet ** and on youtube, thanks. Love, The Illuminati. EVE RELATED CONTENT**
MalVortex Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.03.28 01:21:00 - [40] I thought you said you were going to stop posting recently Sephra?
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 01:23:00 - [41] Originally by: MalVortex I thought you said you were going to stop posting recently Sephra? I got mail in game asking me to come back.
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.03.28 01:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Sephra Star Originally by: MalVortex I thought you said you were going to stop posting recently Sephra? I got mail in game asking me to come back. From more than 3 people? If I add my negative vote, will you go away? -------------------------------------- EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 01:28:00 - [43] Originally by: Havok Dryke If I add my negative vote, will you go away? No
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.03.28 01:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Sephra Star Originally by: Havok Dryke If I add my negative vote, will you go away? No It was worth asking. -------------------------------------- EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
Brea Lafail Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.28 02:32:00 - [45] I thoroughly enjoy these threads, why would you want Sephra to leave?
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Brea Lafail I thoroughly enjoy these threads, why would you want Sephra to leave? I would like to be able to read through the forums without coming upon conspiracy theories every 5 posts tbh. -------------------------------------- EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:32:00 - [47] Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 03:37:11 Originally by: Havok Dryke Originally by: Brea Lafail I thoroughly enjoy these threads, why would you want Sephra to leave? I would like to be able to read through the forums without coming upon conspiracy theories every 5 posts tbh. The truth is people can't stand indisputable historical facts that conflict with their brainwash and conditioning. It causes a mental withdraw that is psychologicly painful. A good analogy would be like what drug addicts experience when they try to stop taking drugs. In some people it can actually cause severe anger and even violence. Another good example to illustrate would be people who have been rescued from cults. Consider how they react when they are rescued/kidnapped by family and forced to go through deprogramming.
Dictum Factum Gemini Sun Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:37:00 - [48] Originally by: Sephra Star The truth is people can't stand indisputable historical facts that conflict with their brainwash and conditioning. It causes a mental withdraw that is psychologicly painful. A good analogy would be like what drug addicts experience when they try to stop taking drugs. So, what you are saying is that feel pain whenever you think something is not a conspiracy? I know less than you think I do.
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:46:00 - [49] These indisputable historical facts.... link plz. I asked for cold hard evidence earlier on...I just want to see the things that make you believe you you do. I might not agree with you, but I would like to understand your point of view. -------------------------------------- EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 03:47:00 - [50] Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 03:51:07 Originally by: Dictum Factum Originally by: Sephra Star The truth is people can't stand indisputable historical facts that conflict with their brainwash and conditioning. It causes a mental withdraw that is psychologicly painful. A good analogy would be like what drug addicts experience when they try to stop taking drugs. So, what you are saying is that feel pain whenever you think something is not a conspiracy? Actually no that is not what I am saying at all. I try to be entertaining and serious at the same time. Severity of reaction is quite variable depending on many factors to include education. I pretty much try and tone myself down arround here. The effects I have here are pretty much met with mild reactions, but they do tend to cause discomfort to a lot of people. Hence the ridiculistic responses. I find that to be quite encouraging.
Sharupak Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.03.28 05:13:00 - [51] Honestly, some of the most effective brainwashing/mind control is actually mainstream media in general. Take for instance we had a thread on healthcare. All the talking points I have seen on television were discussed. I learned a couple of new details because eveO posters are detail to the nth degree. Anyways, does anyone stop and think: If one side thinks healthcare now is **ty...and the other side says universal healthcare is ty...then what does the problem sound like...perhaps Healthcare itself? Why also does it always seem like there are only ever two overall solutions to any political issue? When you approach even a simple problem in your daily life, you come up with more than two ways to skin the cat. If you implement a system to solve a problem and it is around for friggen decades and its history shows, the more robust and larger and capable you make it, it is more ** up...what does that tell you? ITS A SCAM! If something doesnt work and you spend decades improving on it...its time to can it! But that is the media for you. I mean its not like they collect their own info anymore or actually do journalism like they used to and we think they still do. News...NO MATTER WHICH CHANNEL YOU TURN TO...is nothing more than two talking heads fleshing out talking points from two different sides each side has paid the network a bunch of money to convince you to sit on your ass and watch their commercials. CNN BBC FOX Snooze, all of them are just debating various aspects of the ticker tape news headlines provided by AP and Reuters. They dont even investigate if it is actually factual or a partial truth. They just take the story and spin it. Its wrong, and it feeds everyone utterly false perspectives and ideologies and each culture has a seriously foggy view about what the ** is going on outside their nation or union! It is really scary actually. Honestly, I am guilty of it too but I would estimate that 80% or more of the political threads on this board are debated based off of the ideologies that the news media has hammered into our brains and all of these ideologies have only threads of truth applicable in a scenario that never existed in the first place. That is mind control folks. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 05:44:00 - [52] Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 05:45:51 Originally by: Sharupak Honestly, some of the most effective brainwashing/mind control is actually mainstream media in general. Honestly, I am guilty of it too but I would estimate that 80% or more of the political threads on this board are debated based off of the ideologies that the news media has hammered into our brains and all of these ideologies have only threads of truth applicable in a scenario that never existed in the first place. That is mind control folks. Well said. I am quite certain most of you will want to check this out. Just don't discuss it.
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.03.28 05:50:00 - [53] Originally by: Brea Lafail I thoroughly enjoy these threads, why would you want Sephra to leave? As long as she keeps it to her own threads or ones of similar content, she can do what she wants. It's when she posts this drivel in every thread out there that I want to pod her back to a noob ship. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 05:56:00 - [54] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Brea Lafail I thoroughly enjoy these threads, why would you want Sephra to leave? As long as she keeps it to her own threads or ones of similar content, she can do what she wants. It's when she posts this drivel in every thread out there that I want to pod her back to a noob ship. Your thread on BSG was very closely related to what I was talking about and I tied it in quite well and went out of my way to point it out.
Larice Seven Provinces	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:41:00 - [55] Originally by: Sharupak That is mind control folks. If it is intentional, yes. Obviously there is selection going with what is shown on tv. Why? Because nobody would watch it if they showed the lives of Joe Average. It's as simple as job preservation. It's your 'job' to understand why and how it is selected and put it in perspective. When you blindly accept or reject whatever you are being told by media or internet websites you get idiots like the OP. What was it Sephra that showed you that the amount of control you have over your own life is limited by the actions of others? A car accident? Conspiracy theorists are nothing more than people who can't deal with this fact and are desperately trying to get back a little of this illusion of control. Go ahead and 'stick it to the man'. Just stop bothering us.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 08:55:00 - [56] Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 08:58:55 Perhaps my job in the military might have had something to do with it. John F. Kennedy Center for Strategic Studies That; and the fact that the mindset that is so prevalent among the people in this forum is very familiar to me. I used to have it.
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.03.28 09:45:00 - [57] Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 06:02:56 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Brea Lafail I thoroughly enjoy these threads, why would you want Sephra to leave? As long as she keeps it to her own threads or ones of similar content, she can do what she wants. It's when she posts this drivel in every thread out there that I want to pod her back to a noob ship. Your thread on BSG was very closely related to what I was talking about in my Arthur C. Clarke thread and I tied it in quite well and went out of my way to point it out. Do you know of anyone else in this forum who has ever been accused of hijacking their own thread? I HAVE. Go look if you don't believe me. No, my thread on BSG was about a PURELY FICTIONAL story. You took it upon yourself to relate an escapist sci-fi story to your own agenda. I really don't care if there are real world connections to themes/ideas in BSG. If I did, I'd start a thread about it. My thread was about a show, a story. My only concerns in that thread were about its relevance to the story in question. If you want to start a thread about similarities between the two, be my guest. I could even be a useful contributor. But until you understand the difference between make-believe and real life, you won't get any pity from me. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 09:51:00 - [58] Originally by: F'nog But until you understand the difference between make-believe and real life, you won't get any pity from me. While I was reading your post I began thinking that if I were to respond to your name in a psychological word association test the first response that comes to my mind is "Egg Nog".
Gneeznow SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:20:00 - [59] Sephra I keep losing my socks and end up with odd pairs, and after a few months i end up with no socks at all and have to go out and buy more, yet my underpants never disappear, I think its the english government doing this for a secret research project involving sock-bombs filled with plutonium, i'll keep you posted as more unfolds.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:34:00 - [60] Originally by: Gneeznow Sephra I keep losing my socks and end up with odd pairs, and after a few months i end up with no socks at all and have to go out and buy more, yet my underpants never disappear, I think its the english government doing this for a secret research project involving sock-bombs filled with plutonium, i'll keep you posted as more unfolds. I think I can solve the mystery for you. Are you laying down on the couch? If not; then do so. The problem you have is that you are paranoid of losing your underwear. Everytime you go to the bathroom you get so nervous at having to slide them down that for fear of losing them you are inadvertantly using your socks to wipe your asss instead of the toilet tissue. You have been flushing your socks down the toilet. Your analass session is over. I will send you a bill in the mail.
Larice Seven Provinces	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:38:00 - [61] Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 08:58:55 Perhaps my job in the military might have had something to do with it. John F. Kennedy Center for Strategic Studies That; and the fact that the mindset that is so prevalent among the people in this forum is very familiar to me. I used to have it. So you're claiming to be part of some glorified propaganda unit without any real credentials on a forum. Furthermore you are claiming there is some big conspiracy going on while spamming youtube links as evidence. Obviously anyone that doesn't believe those random pages is just part of the sheeple, brainwashed by the system and too ignorant to comprehend what is being done to him. In all my years working as a Counter-Intelligence Officer I have never seen anyone so caught up in their own delusions. Please get help. Seriously.
Jayna Keria Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:40:00 - [62] It started off as funny. Seph you are trying too hard to get the title of paranoid nut on this forum. Since you post a link every 4 posts on most threads it looks like your trying too hard and thus your loosing your crazy, since it becomes more obvious that your faking it. You gotta be less spamming and than when we least expect it you take us by surprise with a link about how ****** lives with the thule inside the hollow earth or something equally weird. Currently we all expect a link from you to pop up and thus it looses its impact.
Gneeznow SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:41:00 - [63] Originally by: Sephra Star Originally by: Gneeznow Sephra I keep losing my socks and end up with odd pairs, and after a few months i end up with no socks at all and have to go out and buy more, yet my underpants never disappear, I think its the english government doing this for a secret research project involving sock-bombs filled with plutonium, i'll keep you posted as more unfolds. I think I can solve the mystery for you. Are you laying down on the couch? If not; then do so. The problem you have is that you are paranoid of losing your underwear. Everytime you go to the bathroom you get so nervous at having to slide them down that for fear of losing them you are inadvertantly using your socks to wipe your asss instead of the toilet tissue. You have been flushing your socks down the toilet. Your analass session is over. I will send you a bill in the mail. No thats not it, I wipe my arse with money and fine silk but A++ for your theory. I think i'm going to plant tracking bugs in all my socks to see who's been taking them, then mount a rescue with the aid of a whacky group of local drunks and a Mr. T style van
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:50:00 - [64] Edited by: Sephra Star on 28/03/2008 10:52:17 Originally by: Larice Originally by: Sephra Star In all my years working as a Counter-Intelligence Officer I have never seen anyone so caught up in their own delusions. Please get help. Seriously. I already did. Willie Nelson and Charlie Sheen are on the way. It just so happens they have the same delusions I do. So do a lot of other people. The big problem is the delusion we share is the reality and you either have a delusion, or know the truth and prefer to "follow the program".
Larice Seven Provinces	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:02:00 - [65] Originally by: Sephra Star the delusion we share is the reality Good one. Totally sig worthy.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:08:00 - [66] Originally by: Larice Originally by: Sephra Star the delusion we share is the reality Good one. Totally sig worthy. What about the last one I came up with? Remember! "I can finaly say that my pot of stew is warm"
Sharupak Knights Of the Black Sun	Posted - 2008.03.29 14:02:00 - [67] Originally by: Larice Originally by: Sharupak That is mind control folks. If it is intentional, yes. Obviously there is selection going with what is shown on tv. Why? Because nobody would watch it if they showed the lives of Joe Average. It's as simple as job preservation. It's your 'job' to understand why and how it is selected and put it in perspective. When you blindly accept or reject whatever you are being told by media or internet websites you get idiots like the OP. What was it Sephra that showed you that the amount of control you have over your own life is limited by the actions of others? A car accident? Conspiracy theorists are nothing more than people who can't deal with this fact and are desperately trying to get back a little of this illusion of control. Go ahead and 'stick it to the man'. Just stop bothering us. I certainly wouldnt say all, but there are alot that do. Conspiracies certainly promote victim mentality if you let them. But they also help someone to wider perspectives. For instance one of the many things I have picked up is that. While it does **** me off to no end that the government asserts its will on how I will raise my children. It does not know my child and seems to entirely miss the concept that kids are all different and require different methods of teaching and mentoring to grow up and live happy and meaningful lives. Their cookie cutter method of raising children applied by all of the different agencies is to ensure that children are put in a position to be as productive as possible throughout their entire lifespan and thus generate more revenue for the state.Therefore, I actually reject a whole lot of it and am now raising a seriously happy and inquisitive kid. To address your first statement. It is my opinion that people would watch it for about 10 minutes and then go out in the street and start rioting. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.03.29 14:49:00 - [68] Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 29/03/2008 14:49:46 Originally by: Larice When you blindly accept or reject whatever you are being told by media or internet websites you get idiots like the OP. What was it Sephra that showed you that the amount of control you have over your own life is limited by the actions of others? A car accident? Conspiracy theorists are nothing more than people who can't deal with this fact and are desperately trying to get back a little of this illusion of control. Spot on. But there is a strange duality there; in their way of doing so they seek an excuse for not exercising that control. While they cannot stand the thought of being subject to chance and an undirected aggregate of individual influences, nor do they want to work to change anything in their lives. Thus when they create that whip, they place it in the hands of an ethereal entity, so unaccountable and elusive - or distributed - that I have wondered why they do not just heap that blame on a god. Awareness then, becomes an acceptable substitute for action. There is also great hypocrisy in the way these constructs are scapegoated and seldom credited with the advantageous products of their actions. For example, a shadowy agency might be blamed for the economic sabotage of a foreign country by introducing a culture of corruption, but never thanked for putting cheap food on its home nation's table as a result. That achievement is usually appropriated by the conspiracy theorist for his noble self. So I am inclined to view global conspiracy theorists as lazy leeches who feel they are entitled to a living and need a way to rationalise the world's refusal to owe them one. Just wait until you hear what reasons people come up with to apportion blame for the coming economic depression. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Sharupak	Posted - 2008.03.29 15:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 29/03/2008 14:49:46 Originally by: Larice When you blindly accept or reject whatever you are being told by media or internet websites you get idiots like the OP. What was it Sephra that showed you that the amount of control you have over your own life is limited by the actions of others? A car accident? Conspiracy theorists are nothing more than people who can't deal with this fact and are desperately trying to get back a little of this illusion of control. Spot on. But there is a strange duality there; in their way of doing so they seek an excuse for not exercising that control. While they cannot stand the thought of being subject to chance and an undirected aggregate of individual influences, nor do they want to work to change anything in their lives. Thus when they create that whip, they place it in the hands of an ethereal entity, so unaccountable and elusive - or distributed - that I have wondered why they do not just heap that blame on a god. Awareness then, becomes an acceptable substitute for action. There is also great hypocrisy in the way these constructs are scapegoated and seldom credited with the advantageous products of their actions. For example, a shadowy agency might be blamed for the economic sabotage of a foreign country by introducing a culture of corruption, but never thanked for putting cheap food on its home nation's table as a result. That achievement is usually appropriated by the conspiracy theorist for his noble self. So I am inclined to view global conspiracy theorists as lazy leeches who feel they are entitled to a living and need a way to rationalise the world's refusal to owe them one. Just wait until you hear what reasons people come up with to apportion blame for the coming economic depression. Again, very true mostly, but not entirely. There are quite a few resistance groups both in the US and UK. Probably one of the larger ones is the Second Continental army of the Republic. What you are saying is generally a default human reaction to lots of things, not just limited to conspiracy. God is a good example...many highly intelligent people come up with excellent evidence to prove it false and also come up with excellent points on how the ideologies of religious institutions teach their members many falsehoods. But do these people (on the majority) actively do something about it? Not really. Atheism fits all the bills of conspiracy from a matter of majority perspective. But yes all that 2012, and ascension and all of that is all the same bull****. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:10:00 - [70] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 29/03/2008 14:49:46 Originally by: Larice When you blindly accept or reject whatever you are being told by media or internet websites you get people like the OP. What was it Sephra that showed you that the amount of control you have over your own life is limited by the actions of others? A car accident? Conspiracy theorists are nothing more than people who can't deal with this fact and are desperately trying to get back a little of this illusion of control. Just wait until you hear what reasons people come up with to apportion blame for the coming economic depression. In the first place I don't blindly accept, or reject anything. I reference, cross reference, and research everything and apply a lifetime of knowledge, experience, and learning to my analysys. Furthermore I am not saddled with mundane distractions and have the luxery of devoting myself fulltime to the task. To me it is a full time job. Others might perceive it as a hobby, or a compulsive addiction caused by a psychosis, but I know my heart and my mind and am confident in the sincerity of my endeavors. With regrds to the coming economic crisis. Here is a tidbit. New York Governor Spitzer was politically assassinated for writing an editorial that appeared in the Washington Post three weeks before the FBI under orders from the Administration had him torpedoed by the exposure of his private life involving high priced prostitutes. He exposed the Administrations complicity in engineering the current economic crisis in America.
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:12:00 - [71] Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers By Eliot Spitzer Washington Post op-ed Thursday, February 14, 2008; Page A25 Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. Some were misrepresenting the terms of loans, making loans without regard to consumers' ability to repay, making loans with deceptive "teaser" rates that later ballooned astronomically, packing loans with undisclosed charges and fees, or even paying illegal kickbacks. These and other practices, we noticed, were having a devastating effect on home buyers. In addition, the widespread nature of these practices, if left unchecked, threatened our financial markets. Even though predatory lending was becoming a national problem, the Bush administration looked the other way and did nothing to protect American homeowners. In fact, the government chose instead to align itself with the banks that were victimizing consumers. Predatory lending was widely understood to present a looming national crisis. This threat was so clear that as New York attorney general, I joined with colleagues in the other 49 states in attempting to fill the void left by the federal government. Individually, and together, state attorneys general of both parties brought litigation or entered into settlements with many subprime lenders that were engaged in predatory lending practices. Several state legislatures, including New York's, enacted laws aimed at curbing such practices. What did the Bush administration do in response? Did it reverse course and decide to take action to halt this burgeoning scourge? As Americans are now painfully aware, with hundreds of thousands of homeowners facing foreclosure and our markets reeling, the answer is a resounding no. Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye. Let me explain: The administration accomplished this feat through an obscure federal agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). The OCC has been in existence since the Civil War. Its mission is to ensure the fiscal soundness of national banks. For 140 years, the OCC examined the books of national banks to make sure they were balanced, an important but uncontroversial function. But a few years ago, for the first time in its history, the OCC was used as a tool against consumers. In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government's actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules. But the unanimous opposition of the 50 states did not deter, or even slow, the Bush administration in its goal of protecting the banks. In fact, when my office opened an investigation of possible discrimination in mortgage lending by a number of banks, the OCC filed a federal lawsuit to stop the investigation. Throughout our battles with the OCC and the banks, the mantra of the banks and their defenders was that efforts to curb predatory lending would deny access to credit to the very consumers the states were trying to protect. But the curbs we sought on predatory and unfair lending would have in no way jeopardized access to the legitimate credit market for appropriately priced loans. Instead, they would have stopped the scourge of predatory lending practices that have resulted in countless thousands of consumers losing their homes and put our economy in a precarious position. When history tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners, the Bush administration will not be judged favorably. The tale is still unfolding, but when the dust settles, it will be judged as a willing accomplice to the lenders who went to any lengths in their quest for profits. So willing, in fact, that it used the power of the federal government in an unprecedented assault on state legislatures, as well as on state attorneys general and anyone else on the side of consumers. The writer is governor of New York.
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:29:00 - [72] Nothing new there. Shame no-one is man enough to point the finger of blame where it belongs. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:31:00 - [73] You want to talk about hookers; lets talk about em in the white house. Lets discuss Gannon and better yet Boys Town and that whole 9 yards having to do with that child prostitution ring them satanic cult asstards from the Bohemian Grove had covered up just before it was scheduled to air on the Discovery Channel. Do you have a brain?
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:51:00 - [74] There is no cure for the Economic Crisis. The Central Banks created the crisis. The FED has been manipulating the economy for over 80 years. The great depression and wars are controlled by the monied interest. Don't believe me, let them tell you: "The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world." - Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from ôTragedy and Hopeö, 1966
Raktar Medovski Omen Incorporated Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:25:00 - [75] I'm one of the five jew bankers, and I'm really getting a kick out of this stuff.
Keorythe Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:03:00 - [76] Quote: recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners BLAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Omg thats a great statement. Innocent homeowners? You mean the same innocent homeowners that had no business owning that home? You mean the same homeowners that saw "free money" instead of being financially responsible for themselves (well I guess the government should hold our hand for everything /sarcasm). Ah but why take responsibility for your mistakes when you can have the government take it for you? And using Eliot Spitzer as a reference is NOT helping your case. Considering you're always railing against a NWO I would have thought you would stay as far away from that dude as possible. This is the same "steamroller" who used political strong arming to a degree that has not been seen except on high controversy issues.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:19:00 - [77] Edited by: Sephra Star on 29/03/2008 19:22:55 I'm not using Spitzer as a reference at all. I am using the indisputable facts in the editorial. Of course Spitzer is an insider. One of them. He was being punished and made an example of for exposing the facts; by a particular faction of the NWO controllers/cultists. Yes there are multiple factions and there is a war for position going on within their own ranks, but in the end they all have the same objectives regarding the herding and manipulation of populations. The issue here is the intentional creation and engineering of an economic crisis designed to further consolidate wealth into fewer hands which you want to sidestep by blaming it on the ignorance of the average everyday hardworking people who rely upon the false perception of their own Government to protect them from criminals/cultists/NWO Banksters who in fact are the rulers that use deception to give them the false perceptions of freedom and democracy. Unfortunately for them they are operating under the false perceptions created by MULTI-GENERATIONAL BRAINWASHING and CONDITIONING.
Raktar Medovski	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:31:00 - [78] Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 29/03/2008 19:29:33 I'm not using Spitzer as a reference at all. I am using the indisputable facts in the editorial. Of course Spitzer is an insider. One of them. He was being punished and made an example of for exposing the facts; by a particular faction of the NWO controllers/cultists. Yes there are multiple factions and there is a war for position going on within their own ranks, but in the end they all have the same objectives regarding the herding and manipulation of populations. The issue here is the intentional creation and engineering of an economic crisis designed to further consolidate wealth into fewer hands which you want to sidestep by blaming it on the ignorance of the average everyday hardworking people who rely upon the false perception of their own Government to protect them from criminals/cultists/NWO Banksters who in fact are the rulers that use deception to give them the false perceptions of freedom and democracy. Unfortunately for them they are operating under the false perceptions created by MULTI-GENERATIONAL BRAINWASHING and CONDITIONING. TAVISTOCK learn not only what it was, but what it has become. And who controls the NWO? Isreal?
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:32:00 - [79] Edited by: Sephra Star on 29/03/2008 19:34:33 Originally by: Raktar Medovski And who controls the NWO? Isreal? Start with the Committee of 300 and work your way up.
Raktar Medovski Omen Incorporated Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:39:00 - [80] Originally by: Sephra Star Originally by: Raktar Medovski And who controls the NWO? Isreal? Start with the Committee of 300 and work your way up. Well I happen to be Jewish, and attend the Weekly Meeting of Every Single Jew in the Universe. One of our plans is to trick people who do get too smart into thinking there's such thing as the New World Order. We even had them make a wrestling team just to throw you guys off even more. You are such an amatuer.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:48:00 - [81] I'm Jewish too, but unlike others of my kind I'm an American first. We have probably met at the meetings. I am pretty good at infiltration.
Raktar Medovski	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:12:00 - [82] Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 29/03/2008 20:02:46 I'm Jewish too, but unlike others of my kind I'm an American first. We have probably met at the meetings. I am pretty good at infiltration. Enjoy This for a Laugh, or better yet a Cry. You're a tool is what you are.
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:14:00 - [83] Originally by: Keorythe Innocent homeowners? You mean the same innocent homeowners that had no business owning that home? You mean the same homeowners that saw "free money" instead of being financially responsible for themselves (well I guess the government should hold our hand for everything /sarcasm). Ah but why take responsibility for your mistakes when you can have the government take it for you? Hear, hear! They lied about their income if not to their lender then to themselves, took a first, a second, racked up tens of k in credit card debt, tapped their retirement, parked a boat in their drive, rolled the car loan a couple of times, and now they want a cookie! And they want me to pay for the cookie! **** them. They could never afford that life, they never earned it, yet they thought themselves entitled. Now they realise paper wealth is a real debt if you spend it. A bit late for that. It is so easy to blame the owner of the letterhead on those contracts, less easy to blame the owner of the signature, huh? Because it is so hard to stop to think whether that extra disposable income is backed by productive economic activity. What happened to taking their share of the responsibility for their mistakes? I bet the answer to that is uncomfortable silence. Those innocent homeowners need help? Sure. They can have it. Once they are done handing over their stuff. They can all point that finger at a mirror. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:17:00 - [84] Edited by: Sephra Star on 29/03/2008 20:17:22 Originally by: Raktar Medovski You're a tool is what you are. A very well honed tool and potentially very dangerous.
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:21:00 - [85] Edited by: Sephra Star on 29/03/2008 20:26:43 Originally by: Cmdr Sy And they want me to pay for the cookie! **** them. The Administration is bailing out the banks with tax payer money. Why should they be getting free cookies? Answer: Because they own the governments and engineered the crisis as a swindle in order to consolidate more wealth and power and further erode the middle class into a lower voiceless class to circumvent potential opposition against the NWO.
Raktar Medovski	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:22:00 - [86] This is either a great troll, or a person who takes waaaay to much acid.
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:28:00 - [87] THE BANKERS MANIFESTO
Raktar Medovski	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:59:00 - [88] As a member of the Illuminati, Jewish People Who Rule the World, the Free Masons, and The New World Order, I can't believe people have finally found us out. OP, you can expect to be dead within the hour.
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.29 22:02:00 - [89] Originally by: Raktar Medovski OP, you can expect to be dead within the hour. The Voice of the Internet Death Threat
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.30 03:10:00 - [90] Edited by: Sephra Star on 30/03/2008 05:57:41 Originally by: Raktar Medovski As a member of the Illuminati, Jewish People Who Rule the World, the Free Masons, and The New World Order, I can't believe people have finally found us out. OP, you can expect to be dead within the hour. I certainly would not be the first. There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United States due to a student strike of eight million students, and the event further divided the country along political lines. Is it any wonder why the CIA took the drastic measure of actually going through with MK Ultra and passing it out for free to students attending Universities all over America? note the use of the term ôtotally depatterned.öin the below article. The CIA had to admit to MKUltra finally A quick over on Project MKUltra Of course Kent State pales in comparison to this. What you can witness here is a sneak peak at what your NWO will be like. Make no mistake about that. Of course the methods of control will be somewhat more high tech and advertised as humane and non-lethal to hide the reality of just how deadly what is going on all around you is.
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.03.30 11:06:00 - [91] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 30/03/2008 11:09:28 well.. i'll say this to the jewish guy and to the whole israel thing. first off the true controllers are never heard off, if you know their names then they are but puppets. quite a while ago some israelies or jew puppets proclaimed themselves the chosen people (contradictory to scripture, no lineage is more holy than another, the maker conciousness and the love of the universe is rich to all who call upon it) and they actually want the end times prophecy to come true. what they don't realize offcourse is first of all their failure to understand scripture, and second of all that they will be some of the first to be wiped out if the shining ones do come. they are like a sa*uard mechanism of free choice, they step in only if there is a negation of free will in a developing species. such as mindcontrol via microchip etc. as outlined in the potential scenario. so it is a sa*uard prophecy, if this is allowed to come true, they _will_ come and they will destroy all the bodies of the controllers, and all the bodies of the mind controlled ones via chips. they don't come to judge you they come to clean up, if such is necessary. and pick up the ones that are not mind controlled and put them back on earth to evolve further, when it's all over and done with. so be careful what you wish for, jewish and other people alike, for you are hipocrits proclaiming to have the will of god with you saying some are holy and some are not and you have sinned against your own holyness and the holyness of others with your callus acts of self centeredness and proclaming that it is the will of the maker, and if you continue what you are doing then you will see what will happen, and you'll come back later on in a new body after some.. understanding of what you did in your past lifetimes. so if you keep going and it comes to that point, then the shining ones will come, and they will come for you specifically, not to save you but to destroy your body and your entire lineage that has caused this, and the watchers (the controlling et's/falling angels) will tremble for they will realize their utter weakness which they thought was power and their pathetic technology will desintegrate and fall apart and they will know what is coming, the complete eradication of their entire species, lineage, unholy genetic experiments and empires influence, no money no manipulation and no cons will save them, they will but think it and your body falls apart, there is no defence, no sense in fighting, no chance of victory and no weakness to exploit against the hand of the maker that only intervenes when free will is negated and a peaceful progression is no longer a potential. and the watchers will tremble, because they have taunted saying "oh where is the maker hahaha!, he will do nothing when we take their free will away" and then they see the shining ones, and they understand and crumble in fear awaiting their destruction. or you could change your ways and it won't come to that, free will is a choice, and choices has consequences, cause and effect.
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.04.05 12:15:00 - [92] Edited by: Sephra Star on 05/04/2008 12:06:51 Classical conditioning and the æwar on terrorÆ By Dr. Harry Davidson Through violent programming on television and in movies, and through interactive point-and-shoot video games, western nations are indiscriminately introducing to their children the same weapons technology that major armies and law enforcement agencies around the world use to "turn off" the midbrain "safety catch" that Brigadier General S. L. A. Marshall discovered in World War II. By saturating children with media violence as entertainment and then exposing them to interactive "point-and-shoot" arcade and video games, it has become increasingly clear that society is aping military conditioning The observation that violence in the media is causing violence in our streets is nothing new. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Medical Association, and their equivalents in many other nations have all made unequivocal statements about the link between media violence and violence in our society. The APA, in their 1992 report Big World, Small Screen, concluded that the "scientific debate is over." And in 1993 the APA's commission on violence and youth concluded that "there is absolutely no doubt that higher levels of viewing violence on television are correlated with increased acceptance of aggressive attitudes and increased aggressive behavior." The evidence is quite simply overwhelming. "Evolution of Weaponry" The Role of Weapons Evolution in Domestic Violent Crime Military Conditioning as Entertainment for Children
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.04.05 12:52:00 - [93] Keith Olbermann EXPOSES PROPAGANDA Catapult The Propaganda
Dianeces The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:28:00 - [94] This is a very good poast. A++, would read again.

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