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Goredred
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.29 16:03:00 -
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I am relatively new, i really like the idea of having a small and very fast ship but i was wondering is it actually viable to pvp in small ships such as Frigates, Assault ships and intercepter. I would eventually like to get an intercepter if they are viable and pile lots of skills into making it as tough as possible.
I guess they can be handy in a group but how about on their own? Do they actually do much damage at all to be able to solo pvp? 
If i could get some questions answered like about intercepter roles, assault ship roles and just general usage in pvp for them that would be great. 
Thanks
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.03.29 16:37:00 -
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The frigates are all perfectly good choices for PvP (in PvE bigger is better really), although the Assault Frigates are somewhat useless at the moment, as it's generally a better choice to go for a cruiser instead of them.
Now, obviously they perform best in a group, but they are capable of soloing as well. However, their target choice is rather limited, although skilled pilots can do some interesting things with them. Personally though I think you may have somewhat of a hard time in the end if you decide to focus entirely on frigates as a solo PvPer.
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Goredred
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.29 18:28:00 -
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Ok cool thanks for your response, i guess the same goes for Intercepters aswell???? would they be a bit better for ganking because they are so fast and if you fit a warp scrambler, couldnt you scramble then fly around them and pester them till they die?
Im wondering then if it would be possible to destroy a cruiser or a bc in a intercepter with a warp scrambler on. Are inty's actually that hard to hit for medium turrets and their slower tracking speed.
If i fit up a inty to be as fast as possible, alot faster than a cruiser/bc's turret tracking and also fit it with a warp scrambler to stop them getting away, would it be possible do you think?
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.03.29 18:41:00 -
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Sure it's possible, you can destroy a battleship with an interceptor if you wanted. The only issue is the skill and setup of your enemy. There are plenty of cruisers out there that could easily decimate your little frigate if you aren't careful, especially if you manage to get yourself webbed.
Indeed, that's the main issue that you'll have. Your high damage weapons are going to be close range, just like on any other ship. Unfortunately, close range is a very dangerous place for any frigate to be. When flying an interceptor you are going to be relying on your speed to keep you alive, but if you are unlucky and manage to come up against an enemy who fit a web, it could very well be all over for you unless you manage to get yourself out again.
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Baka Lakadaka
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Baka Lakadaka on 30/03/2008 01:12:31
PvP in small ships is entirely possible and can be very successful. While it's a lot easier in a group, solo PvP is definitely possible if you pick your targets.
Choosing the right EWAR can be critical as you need to be able to avoid taking damage wherever possible. Finding the optimal range that keeps you outside of web/smartbombs, but close enough to do maximum damage is also important.
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SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:13:00 -
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If your training for interceptors for solo, the gallente taranis is lethal in the right hands, I've seen guys killed vagabonds and battleships in it, if you wanna go the assault ship way then the minmatar and gallente ones are pretty fun.
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Goredred
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.03.30 16:43:00 -
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I heard people saying things like "Assault frigates arnt good anymore" and things like that. TBH looking at it from my point of view i cant see how that is true i mean they are just generally better than a normal frigate arnt they? and if you want to fly frigates why not get a assault frigate?
I have heard quite a few people saying things like this so i thought i would ask the question to see if they are just being biased.
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.03.30 17:09:00 -
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Well, what the mean is that compared to a Tech I cruiser, which is normally cheaper and fully insurable, they are pointless. As a frigate only pilot they may be worthwhile, I don't really know, but most people don't think from the point of view of someone who flies only one type of ship.
My issue really is that the damage they do isn't that impressive; they aren't really fast enough to speed tank properly like an interceptor; but their normal tank isn't good enough to survive very much other than another frigate. They are excellent in specific situations I suppose, but for all-round use I personally see very little reason to fly one.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.30 18:43:00 -
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If you must solo PvP in a frigate then an assault ship is definitely the way to go. The Ishkur puts out monster damage if you're willing to invest heavily in drone skills. I once killed a Rifter fit for PvP with an Ishkur fit for PvE in less than ten seconds. Drone Interfacing 5 with five Hobgoblin II's is nuts.
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Gneeznow
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.03.30 18:56:00 -
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An assault ship in the right hands is a lot of fun, a lot of people complain about them but i suspect the people who complain about them or say they are rubbish dont fly them often or have never flown a t2 fitted AF, check out this vid you'll see what a jaguar in the right hands can do, you'll need VLC player to watch it though.
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Falka Lakadaka
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Posted - 2008.03.31 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
An assault ship in the right hands is a lot of fun, a lot of people complain about them but i suspect the people who complain about them or say they are rubbish dont fly them often or have never flown a t2 fitted AF, check out this vid you'll see what a jaguar in the right hands can do, you'll need VLC player to watch it though.
I suspect the same people that claim destroyers are useless for anything but salvaging......i.e. those that have never been up against someone who really knows how to fly these things (destroyers, assault frigs and even T1 frigs to a large extent are all underestimated by many).
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Falka
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.03.31 02:53:00 -
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Assualt frigs aren't great for PVP at the moment, but if a small, fastish, pwnmobile sounds like what you want to do, train for it. CCP has acknowledged the issues with AFs and they are getting changed pretty soon.
Interceptors are tacklers. Incredibly fast, they're not so much for damage (although there are small inty pirate groups I've seen) as to lock a target down. It's very, very hard to kill an inty pilot that knows what they're doing.
Electronic Attack Frigates are also an option. They can reach interceptor-like speeds (not quite as fast as inties, mind you, though) and use electronic warfare. They don't have the slots that a t1 EW cruiser has, but they are a bit more versatile and MUCH harder to kill.
Stealth Bombers are the last of the small ships. They are the only small ship that can fit cruise missile launchers, and they get a bonus against small ships. Stealth Bombers are also faster than other ships when cloaked. They can decloak, unleash wtfpwnrapage, and cloak again, at long ranges. Their main strength is their huge "alpha" damage. These guys have a somewhat niche role, but they can be very poweful and annoying. SB gangs with an interceptor tackler can be -nasty-
T1 frigs aren't really used much for PVP. T1 Frigs can be effective, though, in numbers. It's a favored tactic of newbie corps, training corps (EVE Uni and Agony Unleashed), and industrial-focused corps to use large T1 frigate groups. The reasoning is that while not as powerful as a group made up of more expensive ships, they can dish out a lot of damage in groups and cost almost nothing.
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Ralara
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Posted - 2008.03.31 08:24:00 -
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There's nothing more exciting in this game, than flying an Interceptor in the middle of a 100 v 100 fleet fight with cap ships - explosions going off in front, above, below and behind you, kiting ships, locking down primaries and secondaries, intercepting enemy interceptors etc - all whilst these explosions are going off with the FC yelling targets and instructions.
Lots of fun, I'm so glad I specced in ceptors.
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Xanos Blackpaw
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:18:00 -
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if they moved the emty high on the retribution to a mid i wouldnt fly anything else...ever...
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