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Blanca Meadow
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2013.09.26 12:56:00 -
[1891] - Quote
What an ***** idea is that?
Not only to reintroduce something you promised to never bring back to the game, but also do it in such an awful, player-hated way, allowing profit-oriented 3rd party corp to earn even more isk?!
CCP seems to be heading down the stream, again.
It seems T2 "lotteries" taught you nothing.
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Mara Maken
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:03:00 -
[1892] - Quote
I'm hoping this was just a "brilliant" idea by one of CCPs newcomers because I can't really believe the veterans of the team would think this would be a good idea.
Eve is a game of consequences, isn't it? You lose a one of a kind ship, it's gone... why is this changing?
Has CCP officially endorsed SOMER? Will they audit the backend code to make sure there is no favoritism or rigging? What if SOMER decides to steal the collector ships? I know that won't happen (bad business) but is there an actual guarantee? Maybe there is a contract, agreement, whatever...
In the end this was a poorly thought out decision. I hope CCP wises up and listens to the playerbase. |
Stoogie
Space Pygmies
86
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:04:00 -
[1893] - Quote
How do we contact internal affairs for ccp because this is clearly a issue of playing favourites . |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:04:00 -
[1894] - Quote
T'kimat wrote:So much rage over a few pixels, which the game-developer is giving out to the public.
They don't give it out to the public. Only a select group of players has the chance to get one.
I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
190
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:11:00 -
[1895] - Quote
I think a big issue here is that we have SOMER blink (the ingame corporation) and SOMER blink (the gambling site).
It's okay when CCP supports 3rd party sites with giveaways (e.g. free frigates when buying GTCs on ScatteredCrystal), but when that 3d party is basically synonyme with an ingame player organisation we enter a very shady area.
Then supporting a business partner turns into - or at least looks like - player favoritism. :( |
Nina Mink
Mink Industries
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:12:00 -
[1896] - Quote
Those are some awesome prices.
But i'm curious. What's a gold magnate
and a guardian vexor worth?
GÇ£A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once. It seems to me most strange that men should fear, seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come.GÇ¥ |
Bobmon
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
60
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:15:00 -
[1897] - Quote
still wondering where Somer is going to put their vaction house after they gained all this isk....Maybeee hawai or someting...uhmmmm
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein |
Stoogie
Space Pygmies
87
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:16:00 -
[1898] - Quote
Nina Mink wrote:Those are some awesome prices.
But i'm curious. What's a gold magnate
and a guardian vexor worth?
Trillions isk wise priceless for historical value. |
Kosakei Sanko
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:27:00 -
[1899] - Quote
These fears are not unfounded. I picked a winner at random the other day and compared his "first blink win" date with the date of his creation, and sure enough his first win came before his creation date. I checked a few more, and it has happened enough that either there are serious issues with the database or there is something untoward occurring. To put these rare ships in the control of such an organization is the height of ignorance, because either by scam or mistake the chances that these ships will be mishandled is extremely high. |
sixfortyk
4
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:28:00 -
[1900] - Quote
How about CCP retains SOMER to manage the draw, give each active subscription automatic entry, adds a new ship named "Trollden Magnate" which is a copy of the original intended drop.
Forget about the other lottery items this time around and starts again after discussing with CSM.
It would be funny at least. |
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Forlorn Eskimo
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:38:00 -
[1901] - Quote
9 ships gonna ruin eve yo run fo the hills ya'll
2 "super dooper rare"
3 "rare"
4 "meh who cares rare"
all the moaning is from die hard vets that prob have 1 of the "meh who cares rare" ships
or 1 of the tournement ships
you just scared of change get over it .
last point and my best 1 tbh stop directing a gm for christ sake to a blog aboout somer being a scam .. there gm's of the game there pretend lotto is in , If blink was a scam with bogus accounts who's gonna know .... some blogger boy with a poorly done website or a guy that can look into accounts ( gm) in the actual game ....?
csm getting involved is also lame isnt there something you need to be doing in null?
end thread
gg well done ccp and blink <3 |
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:42:00 -
[1902] - Quote
Forlorn Eskimo wrote:9 ships gonna ruin eve yo run fo the hills ya'll
2 "super dooper rare"
3 "rare"
4 "meh who cares rare"
all the moaning is from die hard vets that prob have 1 of the "meh who cares rare" ships
or 1 of the tournement ships
you just scared of change get over it .
last point and my best 1 tbh stop directing a gm for christ sake to a blog aboout somer being a scam .. there gm's of the game there petend lotto is in if blink was a scam with bogu accoutns who's gonna know .... some blogger boy with a poorly done website or a guy that can look into accounts ( gm) in the actual game ....?
csm getting involved is also lame isnt there something you need to be doing in null?
end thread
gg well done ccp and blink <3
You're as dumb as a brick. It has nothing to do with unique ships. It has everything to do with CCP giving advantages to a player run corp in EVE. This is going to have a serious repercussion. Bet on it. |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
157
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:46:00 -
[1903] - Quote
Moderation discussion post has been removed.
Forum rule 11. Discussion of forum moderation is prohibited.
ISD Tyrozan
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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Red Templar
Monkey Attack Squad
Goonswarm Federation
237
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:48:00 -
[1904] - Quote
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The CSM was not consulted about this lottery, and if we had been, we would have had concerns similar to those raised by many in this thread.
We hope to arrange a meeting with the relevant CCP staff members to discuss the matter in the near future, and will keep the community as informed as possible.
Hope to hear good news on this controversial topic.
And its weird that you weren't asked, that is what you are for. Isn't it?
Is there any way to stress to CCP that actions like this, have to be first consulted with CSM?
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Forlorn Eskimo
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:49:00 -
[1905] - Quote
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Forlorn Eskimo wrote:9 ships gonna ruin eve yo run fo the hills ya'll
2 "super dooper rare"
3 "rare"
4 "meh who cares rare"
all the moaning is from die hard vets that prob have 1 of the "meh who cares rare" ships
or 1 of the tournement ships
you just scared of change get over it .
last point and my best 1 tbh stop directing a gm for christ sake to a blog aboout somer being a scam .. there gm's of the game there petend lotto is in if blink was a scam with bogu accoutns who's gonna know .... some blogger boy with a poorly done website or a guy that can look into accounts ( gm) in the actual game ....?
csm getting involved is also lame isnt there something you need to be doing in null?
end thread
gg well done ccp and blink <3 You're as dumb as a brick. It has nothing to do with unique ships. It has everything to do with CCP giving advantages to a player run corp in EVE. This is going to have a serious repercussion. Bet on it.
you need to read this again the majority of ppl are moaning about the ships if it was about blink getting ships alone why wasnt there this much fuss for blinks 1Q party with ccp prizes ? dumb + brick |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
157
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:49:00 -
[1906] - Quote
Personal attack post removed.
Forum rule 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
ISD Tyrozan
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
@ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
568
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:50:00 -
[1907] - Quote
This is sick, CCP should not favorize a player organization even for the sake of "promoting the community".
If CCP really wanted to do a lottery for these ships, CCP could have done it by themselves, to ensure as much fairness as possible.
Also, there is absolutely no assurance that the lottery is random. There is no way to verify the absence of favoritism, a serious concern when you consider the total value of these ships.
I just don't get it. Who got the idea, who approved it, and what are the links between blink and CCP ?
G££ <= Me |
Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
33
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Posted - 2013.09.26 13:50:00 -
[1908] - Quote
Chribba wrote:Also I'm interested in what type of agreement there is between CCP and SOMER (I woudln't be surprised if you say it's between you guys...) seeing as by the looks, you're donating these rare ships, which I am sure will gather A LOT of attention, which in turn will be tons of people giving SOMER their ISK for a chance to win.
The ISK betted will be returned to CCP or kept by SOMER? , ...
More or less the last part. Somer is going to make a killing off the tickets they sell. They do offer a great service, but that is paying for itself already - why give them even more ISK? The T2 BPO lottery was more fair than this. It's just a roundabout way of spawning ISK for Somer.
I like new and rare ships being introduced, but it should be in a way that it doesn't benefit only one entity. Unless that entity is CCP that is :) |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
276
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:03:00 -
[1909] - Quote
I threw 16 billion into blinks just because of this promotion. Hard cash which might have gone to emergent gameplay (www.minerbumping.com) now is in the hands of one of the richest EVE players thanks to CCP's decision to do this promotion via Somer. As they say, EVE is a cold, harsh place. Sorry James 315.
Repent what's past; avoid what is to come.
MinerBumping.com
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
7487
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:07:00 -
[1910] - Quote
...brb whilst I make a fansite so I can keep multiple trillions worth of ships.
Bad idea CCP. Shouldn't have let Soundwave go |
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Maximus Andendare
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
582
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:12:00 -
[1911] - Quote
CCP Navigator wrote:We constantly look at which of our partners are running major initiatives and find ways to make them into super events whenever we can. CCP Navigator wrote:...it actually removes content from the game and that is not always a good thing. CCP Navigator wrote:GÇÿClearly, the more you play the more chances you have to win the blast.GÇÖ CCP Navigator wrote:SOMER Blink have been one of the most philanthropic groups in EVE. Wow, really. So SOMER Blink and CCP are partners now? Do you guys even have some inkling of how this reeks of favoritism? Why not just check your player account records and give the ships out to the richest players.
...Actually removes content? WHAT? You honestly believe giving out Gold Magnates is going add content in? Content for content's sake is pointless if it's not MEANINGFUL content. Did you guys learn nothing with the Incarna disaster? CQ was content for content's sake. That went over well.
You must not be aware that these will become the best content viewed by two players spinning them in their stations. Oh yeah, CCP! Getting that content back in for those TWO players!! WHOO HOO. And, better yet, it's most likely not even going to be two average players. It's going to be super rich blinkers who blow billions and billions on blinks. 2/2 CCP. Your logic is flawless.
"most philanthropic groups." This is the biggest line of horse **** in the whole post. I know philanthropic is a big word, so I'll go easy, but when an organization is shoveling billions of isk in their pocket and providing a service, that's not called philanthropy, that's called a BUSINESS. Last I checked, SOMER blink wasn't giving away their billions because it feels good; they were giving ships away because Blink is providing a service, and that's part of the deal--it's their business for crying out loud. Please don't try and spin anything SOMER Blink is doing as philanthropy. They're a business, pure and simple.
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
33
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:12:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:I believe Somer Blink is probably 99% fair. I have no idea if there's a 1% of the time that Somer rewards himself or protects his profit margins with some shady "random-number generation."
He'd be stupid to cheat. The system itself is set up to generate enough ISK for the corp, why ruin it by cheating? |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
277
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:15:00 -
[1913] - Quote
Pytria Le'Danness wrote:
He'd be stupid to cheat. The system itself is set up to generate enough ISK for the corp, why ruin it by cheating?
For the same reason that the people at Absolute Poker or Cereus Poker chose to cheat, despite millions in profits: Greed.
I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:17:00 -
[1914] - Quote
CCP have lost their way...
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
Abernie
Massively Incompetent
24
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:21:00 -
[1915] - Quote
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Pytria Le'Danness wrote:
He'd be stupid to cheat. The system itself is set up to generate enough ISK for the corp, why ruin it by cheating?
For the same reason that the people at Absolute Poker or Cereus Poker chose to cheat, despite millions in profits: Greed.
This.
And the opportunity of cheating (even with CCP acknowledging the risk and not caring about it) is only a (IMO small) part of this whole issue. |
Endecroix
Royal Reidquat Airforce
0
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:28:00 -
[1916] - Quote
I really don't agree with reintroducing the ships. However, CCP if you really want to distribute these ships take the EVE account numbers we all have here and roll a number using Chribba's Dice on Twitch. When a subbed account pops up then they get whatever is being rolled for. That way we can see that:
No 3rd party is profiting
It is being conducted fairly
You encourage people to resub or use a plex on alt accounts therefore removing PLEX from the market (unless you really want people sitting on them for no good reason)
You kind of give everyone a fair chance.
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Arya Solus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:40:00 -
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Endecroix wrote:
You kind of give everyone a fair chance.
It's the same ****. Even if CCP picks a random account, it's still a lottery. Richer people still have more chances (more alts). So don't go parading about fair chances for everyone because there is no such thing. |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:43:00 -
[1918] - Quote
While I agree that CCP made a absolute ****** decision, I do love all the comments saying "Somer could cheat, use Chribba-dice instead". Chribba is a veritable saint and beyond any suspicion, but he's still an EVE-player just like Somer. Why not cut out all EVE-players and just use random.org's number of a day in the future? [i.e. 1 random integer between 1 and x using pregenerated randomization for 2013-10-03]
Repent what's past; avoid what is to come.
MinerBumping.com
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Phoenus
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
105
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:46:00 -
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This is a ridiculously stupid idea. If you want to give out unique ships, make new unique ships.
If you must give out rare and limited ships, don't be stupid enough to give them out via a lottery. People hated the T2 Lottery, I thought you'd finally learnt from that, and now not only do you repeat your mistakes, but you do it in a way that let's a third party fansite earn billions/trillions more ISK? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
4764
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Posted - 2013.09.26 14:58:00 -
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hi goonswarm has contributed more content and players to EVE Online than SOMER ever has, please make with the giving us collector's items for free |
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