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Esppiton
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.10.31 06:50:00 -
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Ona Bender wrote:Heya Esppiton. Just wonderin...about how many promos you won? 2 days ago i sleep 2 hours... ))) but in general: Promo Blinks Played5,246 Promo Blinks Won17 are you jealous of me? ))) |

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2570
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Posted - 2013.10.31 08:52:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:Rumor mongering? You mean the like claiming somer are completely trustworthy and honourable? Somehow my post updating everyone on the situation I raised earlier in this thread was caught up in the cleaning. The good news is that someone from SOMER Blink finally contacted me, the bad news is that they refuse to refund my isk. They say that they "will not refund ISK used in valid play that has already been won or lost". That's right, for SOMER Blink offering an unique prize, requiring people to play Blinks to enter, then withdrawing that prize, is 'valid play'. Well, I call it 'bait-and-switch'. Not an uncommon scam in EVE, but for the first time ever perpetrated by a "trustworthy and honourable" service endorsed by CCP. SOMER Blink lays the blame squarely at CCP's feet, though they seem to forget this was their contest and they have my money - they also have to opportunity and means to refund my money, but that's "not possible" because they see bait and switch as valid play.
Petition it, citing Navigators statements about them being legitimate and trustworthy. |

Lic Skjem
EVE University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:07:00 -
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Esppiton wrote:Ona Bender wrote:Heya Esppiton. Just wonderin...about how many promos you won? 2 days ago i sleep 2 hours... ))) but in general: Promo Blinks Played5,246 Promo Blinks Won17 are you jealous of me? )))
am i jealous of a degenerate internet spaceship gambler? gonna go with no. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
507

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Posted - 2013.10.31 22:29:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. Please refrain from discussing forum moderation. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'.
ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Nanatoa
392
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Posted - 2013.10.31 23:54:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote: It's great that SOMER Blink gave away 800B for nothing at EVE Vegas - given that huge number what's the problem with dealing with my 16B exactly? Surely SOMER Blink is stretching their trusty and reliable reputation with their continued silence on this matter?
The good news is that someone from SOMER Blink finally contacted me after I posted that previous message, the bad news is that they refuse to refund my isk.
They say that they "will not refund ISK used in valid play that has already been won or lost". That's right, for SOMER Blink offering an unique prize, requiring people to play Blinks to enter, then withdrawing that prize, is 'valid play'. Well, I call it 'bait-and-switch'. Not an uncommon scam in EVE, but for the first time ever perpetrated by a "trustworthy and honourable" service endorsed by CCP.
SOMER Blink lays the blame squarely at CCP's feet, though they seem to forget this was their contest and they have my money - they also have to opportunity and means to refund my money, but that's "not possible" because they see bait and switch as valid play. "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Ona Bender
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.11.01 00:05:00 -
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Esppiton wrote:are you jealous of me? )))
Well, since we're being honest... Yep, a little. |

Lic Skjem
EVE University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2013.11.01 00:53:00 -
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Be VERY CAREFUL what you say in the Somer Blink channel. They are now banning people who talk about the CCP investigation into RMT. If you allude to the discussion or bring up the thread, you will be banned. |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
393
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:13:00 -
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Somers RMT is over on 7th? Somer employees steal all you can and RMT it your selfs through my free RMT 3rd party service. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3813295
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JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
91
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:21:00 -
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I've been monitoring that channel all day and this is the only post I've seen earn a ban. Offering a service to conduct RMT? Don't expect that comment will last here aeither. |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
394
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:25:00 -
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JusFooling Around wrote:I've been monitoring that channel all day and this is the only post I've seen earn a ban. Offering a service to conduct RMT? Don't expect that comment will last here aeither. You know somer is offering a service to RMT as well? here |

Esppiton
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:32:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Somer are likely to be going down soon people. I'd advise to stop cashing in, play all your credit and cash out as soon as possible. There's only a limited amount of time before Somer stop paying out and your balance will be lost. CCP would not be able to reimburse you for a loss due to Somer refusing to pay out. this mean next ->
Quote:CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy! Thanks to everyone who has helped support our server costs by buying through the affiliate link :) The bonus will go away after the 7th, so we'll be investigating other options to cover the server expense after the GTC money runs out :) no more, no less...d'nt scare people. alarmist. |

JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
91
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Posted - 2013.11.01 06:34:00 -
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Why not put a link to every authorized reseller and every site of every alliance and corp with a link to an authorized reseller?
When Eve got the idea to offer incentives in the way of isk They discussed it with CCP and got the nod to proceed. It is only now when some corps and alliances abused the practice by bring RL cash into the equation that Eve was forced to do something. |

Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
396
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Posted - 2013.11.01 07:22:00 -
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JusFooling Around wrote:Why not put a link to every authorized reseller and every site of every alliance and corp with a link to an authorized reseller?
When Eve got the idea to offer incentives in the way of isk They discussed it with CCP and got the nod to proceed. It is only now when some corps and alliances abused the practice by bringing RL cash into the equation that Eve was forced to do something.
Blink continues to operate, The Authorized reseller you linked continues to operate. Blink's memberships continue to swell. They found enough server to operate on before they were paid affiliate fees authorized by CCP for click-throughs, Theywill find a way to survive in the future. They have already said they will not take donations from players - who knows, a player run run feature with 80k membership (yes, some dormant) might even get a little corner of the CCP server to use or buy it outright.
Somer came up with the idea for Blink to use as a Resume' for jobs and has gotten two much improved over the last positions out if it. Ya never know, she might be tired of dealing with **** heads by now and be ready for a sale. Somer made $130k so can keep the servers running just cant get paid $ for isk anymore. |

Peenutbutterjellytime
DEFCON. The Initiative.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.01 07:52:00 -
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are you kidding me? you raise the bonus to 1bil the day after i bought my usual gtcs via somer.such a bad luck...... |

Frying Doom
3002
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Posted - 2013.11.01 07:55:00 -
[2175] - Quote
JusFooling Around wrote:Why not put a link to every authorized reseller and every site of every alliance and corp with a link to an authorized reseller?
When Eve got the idea to offer incentives in the way of isk They discussed it with CCP and got the nod to proceed. It is only now when some corps and alliances abused the practice by bringing RL cash into the equation that Eve was forced to do something.
Blink continues to operate, The Authorized reseller you linked continues to operate. Blink's memberships continue to swell. They found enough server to operate on before they were paid affiliate fees authorized by CCP for click-throughs, Theywill find a way to survive in the future. They have already said they will not take donations from players - who knows, a player run run feature with 80k membership (yes, some dormant) might even get a little corner of the CCP server to use or buy it outright.
Somer came up with the idea for Blink to use as a Resume' for jobs and has gotten two much improved over the last positions out if it. Ya never know, she might be tired of dealing with **** heads by now and be ready for a sale. Just such a shame that Somers current actions have shown him to be in breach of another part of the EULA isn't it. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Ace Boogi
Republic University Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2013.11.01 08:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Just such a shame that Somers current actions have shown him to be in breach of another part of the EULA isn't it.  he defended Somer's RMT by pointing out how Somer operated her site as a business to move ahead irl. defending one EULA violation by using it to justify another? 
and yes, i fully expect her to leave the peasant shitheads who made her rich after she's done cashing out on the GTCs and probably graduates to traditional RMT. doubt she'd care about a ban after using eve to pay her over $130k, and she's shown she's greedy enough to go for the whole pie and just sell everything, so i would expect her to just take all the deposit money and sell that via ebay or whatever it is 'regular' RMTers do. |

Frying Doom
3006
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Posted - 2013.11.01 08:29:00 -
[2177] - Quote
JusFooling Around wrote: They have already said they will not take donations from players - who knows, a player run run feature with 80k membership (yes, some dormant) might even get a little corner of the CCP server to use or buy it outright. Yes that would work really well as they would instantly be in violation of UK law. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1545
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Posted - 2013.11.01 14:34:00 -
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Esppiton wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Somer are likely to be going down soon people. I'd advise to stop cashing in, play all your credit and cash out as soon as possible. There's only a limited amount of time before Somer stop paying out and your balance will be lost. CCP would not be able to reimburse you for a loss due to Somer refusing to pay out. this mean next -> Quote:CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy! Thanks to everyone who has helped support our server costs by buying through the affiliate link :) The bonus will go away after the 7th, so we'll be investigating other options to cover the server expense after the GTC money runs out :) no more, no less...d'nt scare people. alarmist. lol sure. Because once Somer lose their income stream they are going to continue running it for isk? Of course they want to save face at the moment, they want to push their last 7 days of sales. They will show as business as usual until they have to stop, then they are likely to pull a Poe, and start regular RMTing their isk into the ground. People won't realise that the pot is empty until it's too late, because they run the books. Just remember though, that number they show you on their site, that's what they say you have, it's not necessarily what you will get from them. Historically there are several real world examples of this.
Oh and you should read nosygamers blog, he covers it pretty well, including good reasoning for why Somers income will be hit so hard. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |

DrJonF Rockit
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
3
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Posted - 2013.11.01 16:57:00 -
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wow. All the incessant whining and complaining and HAVE NOT's wishing in one hand and well... they have finally broken Somer.
Just goes to show you. One bad apple will spoil the bunch.
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Edward Harris
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
1
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:17:00 -
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DrJonF Rockit wrote:wow. All the incessant whining and complaining and HAVE NOT's wishing in one hand and well... they have finally broken Somer.
Just goes to show you. One bad apple will spoil the bunch.
Just shows how great the Eve community really is...
Some people take video games way too seriously. |

Frying Doom
3112
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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:06:00 -
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Edward Harris wrote:DrJonF Rockit wrote:wow. All the incessant whining and complaining and HAVE NOT's wishing in one hand and well... they have finally broken Somer.
Just goes to show you. One bad apple will spoil the bunch.
Just shows how great the Eve community really is... Some people take video games way too seriously. Some people just want the same rules to apply to everyone. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
512

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Posted - 2013.11.01 22:10:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules:
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
21. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.
Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Carver Be'Goode Zanjoahir
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.11.02 00:54:00 -
[2183] - Quote
[Nanatoa wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Last week I contacted Somerset Mahm ingame about this, I received a non-reply ("[If you win] I will arrange for you to talk to CCP Navigator directly" - which is not what I asked for at all). So far Somerset Mahm has not responded to my reply to her message. Is this the trustworthy and reliable service CCP Navigator praised? I'm very patient, but can I get an indication of when I will be receiving a reaction to this problem? I see Somer posting here, but I still have no reply here or by evemail. It's great that SOMER Blink gave away 800B for nothing at EVE Vegas - given that huge number what's the problem with dealing with my 16B exactly? Surely SOMER Blink is stretching their trusty and reliable reputation with their continued silence on this matter?
I'd advise you to petition CCP for the 16bil. CCP pulled the prize you wanted gamble on after all the hullabaloo raised in the forums, not blink.
Blink has always cheerfully returned funds placed on a bonk by mistake or after having second thoughts, as long as the request is made before the drawing takes place, or everyone who lost would be having second thoughts. They gave me back almost 9 bil I hammered into a Bonk under the old method with the 100 limit. I thought I was popping tokens in a minibonk and then got the red box telling me I was "too poor". I thought I was just cooked, but mentioned it in the chat and several told me to ask for it back. I thought, "yeah, sure thing!" but gave it a shot anyway and Andrev did it right away and gave me no attitude about it.
The financial arrangement between Blink and CCP for the sponsorship has never been revealed by either of those parties to my knowledge and I've been looking for it, though everyone speaks their opinion as if it were fact, the truth is we don't know what arrangements they may or may not have had.
I have not looked at the time/date stamp of your first request to compare it to the drawing time, but if it was made before drawing, I would feel certain Blink would stand behind it as they have in the past and are doing so today as they are giving the increased incentive for Plex click-thru buys to people who bought within a reasonable time before the increase was announced. Just watching the chat, I've probably seen them honor the increase enough to exceed 16 bil. That gives me reason to wonder about a financial arrangement for the sponsorship or if nothing else, that some agreement was reached which would affect a predicament such as yours.
You may get a refund from CCP with the caveat of not discussing it, as they have for discussing any GM Sanction. I hope it works for you, but if they do and don't want you to talk about it - Don' t tell me NUTHIN'!!!.
Good Luck with it. |

Nanatoa
408
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Posted - 2013.11.02 02:23:00 -
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Carver Be'Goode Zanjoahir wrote:Blink has always cheerfully returned funds placed on a bonk by mistake or after having second thoughts, as long as the request is made before the drawing takes place
I made my request well before the draw was made, but it was refused. Andrev Nox actually tried to pull the "the draw has already happened" excuse on me, until I pointed him to my posts and ingame messages before the draw. Then he found another excuse. They just don't want to refund my 16B even though they clearly profited from the bait and switch.
"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
407
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Posted - 2013.11.02 06:51:00 -
[2185] - Quote
ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.21. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.
Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited. The first post in this thread is linking to a RMT site |

Bess Eaton
Somewhere Out There Somalia.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:47:00 -
[2186] - Quote
Caution is advised.
CCP are handing down RMT bans to anyone taking advantage of the billion isk GTC bonus. My main has already been banned. If you want to keep your accounts, you'll give SOMER a wide berth on this one. |

Andrev Nox
SOMER Blink Cognitive Development
265
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Posted - 2013.11.02 10:52:00 -
[2187] - Quote
No part of that statement is remotely true. :)
But critical thinking is important - nobody should ever take any player's word for it on whether or not an activity is kosher, especially inflammatory statements presented without evidence :)
If anyone is concerned about their character's safety while participating in anything, our site include, please do petition CCP and ask for their confirmation of the legality of what you're doing. It's always the safe answer :)
Good try though! Somer Blink - The original microlottery site. |

Frying Doom
3139
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:36:00 -
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There is always the truthful statement that Somer blink is acting in breach of the EULA.
Or do you believe the EULA does not apply to you? Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

T'kimat
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:14:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
oh and my guess is Somer will close his doors on the 6th.
My guess is you will not take your tinfoil hat off on the 7th. |

Frying Doom
3145
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:45:00 -
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T'kimat wrote:Frying Doom wrote:
oh and my guess is Somer will close his doors on the 6th.
My guess is you will not take your tinfoil hat off on the 7th. I will if on the 7th Somer is still here and are acting within the bounds of the EULA and TOS Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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