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Cayell
Steamhouse Enemy Engagement Division
3
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Posted - 2013.11.06 10:12:00 -
[2251] - Quote
Nanatoa wrote:Ever since they scammed my 16B from me I'm all for some good old-fashioned SOMER-bashing, but you guys do realize that if you only every buy ticket #1 on Crow Blinks every Crow that you win will be won with ticket #1 right?
Precisely - there are achievements for winning multiple ships that give free credit, so it's not uncommon for a string of wins on the same ship, and that page only shows the last few.\
I really would be all up for "SOMER-bashing" had I ever seen anything resembling hard evidence that I was being scammed out of my money. The truth however, is that it's a gambling site and more people are going to leave the table with less money than they started with compared to those who luck out.
Even when my own balance has gone into negative profit (and it's never been a big source of profit anyway), I've never had any reason to suspect that I was being cheated.
My advice to prospective players is to play it for the fun of it, not to win. That way you'll feel like you've got your ISK's worth regardless of your win/lose ratio. |
Zetsy
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.07 03:45:00 -
[2252] - Quote
So, can we still get the 1000M isk bonus today on November 7th, or it's already ended? |
Jommis
NorCorp Security
Against ALL Authorities
75
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Posted - 2013.11.07 09:55:00 -
[2253] - Quote
Zetsy wrote:So, can we still get the 1000M isk bonus today on November 7th, or it's already ended?
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th."
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JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
92
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Posted - 2013.11.08 06:17:00 -
[2254] - Quote
Jack Breacher wrote:http://cogdev.net/blink/?act=profile&id=301162211
Doesn't this look odd
Winning every Crow with #1 ticket
Thanks for the link you posted, very interesting stuff you have there. Lessee... This player has played 340 blinks and won 55 or 6.18% and only plays ticket number one in just about every blink (see the circle with thing inside pointing to 1?)
Hmmm. You are right! in playing a single ticket, probability theory would project this player to have won about 12.5% of the blinks played almost always using the same single ticket number. And so odd this player would have won a string of Crows after having only played 167 of the 340 blinks for Crows. And some people will jump on just your words and run with it without going to the link, probably because they would not understand what they are seeing any more than you.
Blinks Played340
Blinks Won55
Value of Blinks Won1,948,000,000 ISK
Achievements Earned24
Butans Answered0
Favorite Blinks
Crow
167 Blinks
1,000,000,000 Blink Credit
23 Blinks
Republic Fleet Firetail
19 Blinks
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TrisenWar
New Eden Club
11
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:04:00 -
[2255] - Quote
Lol.
Blink "removed" bonus but leave their GTC bonus page active :)
Seems like they want to get more $$$ :) |
JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
92
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:15:00 -
[2256] - Quote
Nanatoa wrote:Ever since they scammed my 16B from me I'm all for some good old-fashioned SOMER-bashing, but you guys do realize that if you only every buy ticket #1 on Crow Blinks every Crow that you win will be won with ticket #1 right?
You just cannot see that CCP changed the prizes by not making the advertised prizes available to Blink?
Had you just asked for ISK instead of the prizes, you would have gotten back 70% of the 16bn right there.
Had you claimed the prizes and then asked for Blink to take them back and give you the Jita market value at the time you won the prize, they would have done that which would have kept you from taking the time to sell them and pay taxes and broker fees.
You keep hammering away at Blink and them not replying to you, but you only mentioned once that CCP has not answered the Petition you filed for them to refund your 16bn and that it has remained unanswered.
Earlier, you stated that you didn't think Blink refunding your 16bn would set a precedent. In the the US Juris Prudence realm, a single ISK of refund to you would set a precedent. A single word in a response to you not breathed over at hundreds of dollars an hour by a lawyer could set a precedent.
In the US, if the two Attorneys General of two adjoining states were simultaneously crossing the bridge over the river which seperated the two states and they came upon a person standing on the outside of the safety barriers and only one step from plunging into the river below to a near certain death and screaming at them, "Get back or I'll jump!".
And one of them noticed the person was standing right next to the signs which read, "You are now leaving ..." and named the two states on either side, would they begin trying to talk the person out of using a permanent solution to what might be a temproary problem? Oh Hell NO!
They would request an Environmental Impact Study be done to determine what damage a rotting corpse in the river might cause their state. They would want to know the wind direction to estimate which side of the river the person would hit to see who had jurisdiction. They would want to know if he was a registered voter and if not would he/she just sign a voter registration card and they would fill it in and file it for her/him later, after he/she jumped. They would try to sign him/her up for Food Stamps, get her/him a Pell Grant, see if she/ he had exhausted his/her Unemployment Compensation. Had he/she been injured on the job? Ever inhaled asbestos? Been denied a job as a brain surgeon based some demographic metric such as being left handed or being a recipient of the Morton's Toe Newsletter?
The first words any lawyer will tell any client when litigation is in the air are, "DON'T SAY NUTTIN' TO NOBODY BECAUSE IT WILL COME BACK TO BITE YOU IN THE ASS".
If a stink had not been raised here in this forum about the prizes CCP Navigator announced CCP was providing for the promotion, you likely would have had an inkling of a chance, but still a chance for your 16bn "Hail Mary Pass" to have won one of the big prizes - but you haven't complained about the complainers who pressured CCP into withdrawing the prizes you sought.
If CCP had followed through on what CCP Navigator stated, again you would have had a chance - but you have not excoriated CCP in the forums.
You stick to Blink.
If you had been Somer Blink and saw the offer from CCP Navigator, what choice would YOU have made? Would you have acepted it or just said, "Nyaah, I'll pass".
Because both sides, all sides have not spoken out on the details of the deal, how do you know that Blink was not paying something for the prizes? And if so, did they get their ISK/CASH back so they could give you a refund? You don't know. You jumped blindly into Blink not knowing anything about how to play it and now you have jumped onto the forums without knowing the basic deal between the two parties, without understanding what a precedent entails, without anything but a deadset determination that you have decided who is wrong and are going to sit on the forums and squeal to bring out all the Blink Haters and Tin Foil Hat crew. I would venture to say you, like the guy a few posts up, don't know where Blink gets their winning numbers and what an absolutely unassailable resource it is.
Go ahead, just sit their in that grocery cart seat and point at the Ice Cream Cone you dorpped on the floor and scream. How is it working so far?
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Shacheh
Frozen Dawn Academy
Arctic Light
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 09:42:00 -
[2257] - Quote
TrisenWar wrote:Lol.
Blink "removed" bonus but leave their GTC bonus page active :)
Seems like they want to get more $$$ :)
Why would they not leave the GTC page active? Resellers offer affiliate programs and by buying codes via affiliates you support CCP, reseller and the affiliate all in one. Why is it "lol"? Why would Blink not want to get more $$$ via completely common practice? Wouldn't you? |
Shacheh
Frozen Dawn Academy
Arctic Light
8
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Posted - 2013.11.08 09:45:00 -
[2258] - Quote
Jack Breacher wrote:http://cogdev.net/blink/?act=profile&id=301162211
Doesn't this look odd
Winning every Crow with #1 ticket
The page does not show how many blinks he has lost with number #1 so it doesn't really look odd at all. Brain is a really useful tool. |
Nanatoa
422
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Posted - 2013.11.08 11:33:00 -
[2259] - Quote
JusFooling Around wrote:You just cannot see that CCP changed the prizes by not making the advertised prizes available to Blink?
As bona fide space lawyer you will understand the difference between SOMER having an agreement with CCP to deliver prizes and me having an agreement with SOMER to have a chance at winning those prizes. I understand SOMER couldn't give away the prizes because their agreement with CCP fell through - it is no problem at all, if only SOMER undoes what I did to enter the competition for those prizes.
JusFooling Around wrote:Had you claimed the prizes and then asked for Blink to take them back and give you the Jita market value at the time you won the prize, they would have done that
That is incorrect. They claim I got what I paid for ("valid play") and won't do anything.
JusFooling Around wrote:You keep hammering away at Blink and them not replying to you, but you only mentioned once that CCP has not answered the Petition you filed for them to refund your 16bn and that it has remained unanswered.
That is incorrect. I have mentioned it several times in several threads. This is SOMER's thread though, not CCP's thread, so here I focus on what SOMER has (or more precisely hasn't) done.
JusFooling Around wrote: In the the US Juris Prudence realm
Ah the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. What exactly has US jurisprudence to do with scamming in pretend-space hosted on an English server by an Icelandic company? Want me to find a counterexample in one of the hundreds of other countries of the world?
JusFooling Around wrote:but you haven't complained about the complainers who pressured CCP into withdrawing the prizes you sought.
By now we are three steps removed from the actual scam. SOMER not doing what it said is not the problem, CCP not doing what they said is not the problem, no, the forum warriors who complained, they screwed me over! It is ridiculous. You seem to be grasping at straws just to try to divert attention from the fact that I had an agreement with SOMER, they couldn't deliver and they refused a refund.
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TrisenWar
New Eden Club
11
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Posted - 2013.11.08 14:45:00 -
[2260] - Quote
Shacheh wrote:TrisenWar wrote:Lol.
Blink "removed" bonus but leave their GTC bonus page active :)
Seems like they want to get more $$$ :) Why would they not leave the GTC page active? Resellers offer affiliate programs and by buying codes via affiliates you support CCP, reseller and the affiliate all in one. Why is it "lol"? Why would Blink not want to get more $$$ via completely common practice? Wouldn't you?
Previously Blink gave bonuses publicly now blink will gave bonuses to people bought ETC through their link but private :)
And it is not provable until CCP using alts will prove that.
Nothing really changed |
Koltix
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 00:01:00 -
[2261] - Quote
My account on Somer blink was disabled, not sure why can anyone help? |
JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
92
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Posted - 2013.11.09 02:30:00 -
[2262] - Quote
Rosewalker wrote:JusFooling Around wrote: Lots of stuff
TL;DR - Don't trust anything that Shattered Crystal says. SOMERblink was knowingly violating the rules. Got it. Edit: That's not my stance. It just seems that's the argument being made.
I'm just following the crowd - OH WAIT - THOSE ARE LEMMINGS!!!!!!
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JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
92
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Posted - 2013.11.09 06:24:00 -
[2263] - Quote
I really do hope you get your 16Bn back and maybe one day, if getting it back is your goal and not just wantonly bashing Blink on every forum possible, you will see you are barking up the wrong tree.
Point one - the space lawyer jab - I have never applied to the bar of any jurisdiction in space. I am not a space lawyer, I just play one on the internet.
it seems lawyers at work here as "valid play" is a legal term and very few lay persons would know that term or how to use it in its proper context. Litagation is in the air.
Your deposit did not create an agreement (beyond your own imagination) with Blink to have a shot at those prizes. Your deposit created a tacit agreement to play Blink according to their rules and you did. Yes - valid play. The prizes announced by CCP Navigator were to be given away as a promotion sponsored by CCP. CCP pulled their sponsorship. Blink is at no fault for losing the sponsorship. You won 70% of your deposit and could have taken ISK but chose not to. You had valid play. Promotions sponsored by entities take on the responsibility to produce the prizes offered. Blink would be held harmless in this action as they did all they could to produce the prizes other than toss dried beaver bones on a tanned raccoon skin to conjure them up. Your argument is no more valid than if I wanted to enter a drawing by a Chevrolet Dealer for a Corvette the dealer ran an ad in their own newsletter to promote and instructing "potential winners" to bring ticket stubs (must spend money to got to movie ticket stub, even if I had never gone to a drive-in) from any local (local would need to be defined) drive-in movie. I went to a movie, I saw the movie, the Dealership reneged on the Corvette drawing. Because it was a drawing which is considered a form of gambling because the outcome is not guaranteed, and you were not charged to specifically to enter the drawing regardless of the amount of money (even spaceship money) you have spent to get free access to the second drawing, you have no damage as you suffered no loss after having valid play and taking your chances (just as Blink did) that the sponsors would not renege. I would have no claim against the drive-in movie even though the movie had a sign in their window about the drawing. A court would find the movie held blameless and even consider the movie a victim as its reputation was damaged by the sponsor reneging and having hapless dreamers forming a picket line for every Saturdays, all night "Machete MovieThon".
This example may seem ridiculous, but look closely at the relationship of each entity here. The dealership made the announcement, the dealership reneged. People watched the movie and dreamt about seeing the next movie in a Corvette. The movie conducted business as usual, except for putting a poster in their window, and gave each ticket holder "valid play" and probably sold them some popcorn and a condom.
Point two - I am correct. I have seen players be stinky buttflaps shooting off their mouths in chat and still be offered by blink to return their prizes to their que so the players can have a second chance at deciding how they want to redeem them.
Point three - The second "you are incorrect" jab. Oh wait, I deserved that jab as I am not a forum rat who reads and posts all over. Therefore had not seen your posts in other forums, so yes, I was incorrect and apologize for not following your writings, though your command of the English language is superior.
Point four - First, this is not about outer space. seperate fantasy from reality for a minute. This is about an international business entity with offices in the United States, an affiliate in the United States, possibly named authorized third party resellers in the United States, and we all know MacDonald's is headquartered in the United States and most Blink players are playing from their non-Corvettes in the parking lot and hustling the Mickey D WiFi which is probably in the United States and is no more liable for the non-damages you feel you suffered than is Blink, even your ISP is no more liable than Blink for the damages you did not suffer even though you would not have known anything about this sponsorship, or at least would not have been able to participate without an ISP.
Point five - No, i am not reaching at straws. If other players had not objected to the sponsorship of these prizes, would CCP have withdrawn them? If you say yes CCP would have reneged, then you are blaming CCP of a conspiracy to defame Blink. If your answer no, then you would have expected the sponsorship would have been followed through and you would have had your shot at the CCP owned and controlled pixels.
In this case, I have always held that CCP is at fault, not the forum rats and not Blink. I was sarcastically pointing out that anyone as naive (uninformed, not stupid) as you about credible liability and exactly whom is at fault could be expected to spray everyone who stood in your way of having your distant shot at these amazing prizes. Just a few days ago, I was in a grocery store and a person occupying the race car grocery cart (my personal favorite to haul behind my Hoveround) in front of me in line pointed at me and tossed excoriating gibberish though it was my fault that person had dropped the sucker it had extorted from the much taller person with the credit card who seemed somehow connected to a NASCAR driver's chaffeur.
Good luck. I am done. I have breathed my last breath into your tilting at windmills. If a post is not answered, does anyone hear the tree fall? |
Asserted Invaluability
Anti Einstein-Rosen Vixens
0
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Posted - 2013.11.09 15:29:00 -
[2264] - Quote
Just out of curiosity and because you whiners basically spoiled Blink for a lot.
Mad Ani posts in this forum section.
He uses 3 eve clients to stream battles (So using CCP property no problem there streams are great)
BUT .............
He has an RL money donate button (EVEN SHOWING THE AMOUNT DONATED SO FAR!!!) along with an isk donate button.
(Using CCP property to make real currency < Problem)
There is something seriously wrong with you all if you see Somer's indirect site funding as (insert 3 letter acronym here) but don't see Mad Ani's direct (insert same acronym here).
So if you are all going to complain that one brush should paint all, get your whiney butts into that thread and do the same thing. |
Amanda Peewith
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:23:00 -
[2265] - Quote
Asserted Invaluability wrote:Just out of curiosity and because you whiners basically spoiled Blink for a lot...
This is one of those things CCP should've never even responded to - those whiners were actually happier BEFORE blink had to change - because they had something to complain about.
Why don't the whiners care about your guy, you ask? Because he's not sharing his pie. With blink, it could certainly APPEAR that some people are on the pie list, and get a big fat slice, over and over and over and over, while most sit there just wishing for one small bite...
Try this:
1. Imagine finding out there is a party you're not invited to.
2. Imagine finding out there's a party you're not invited to where they're giving away iPads and all your friends are invited and know you're NOT invited so they don't say anything to you and when you bring it up afterwards they scold you for acting like the world owes you something while looking down their noses at you over their new iPads...
I know it's not exactly the same - but it should illustrate...that there's a difference. |
Nanatoa
436
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Posted - 2013.11.10 21:58:00 -
[2266] - Quote
JusFooling Around wrote:I am done. I have breathed my last breath into your tilting at windmills.
You might be getting a bit tired because your breathing across the Atlantic from the US to windmills in the UK and Iceland. SOMER announced they'd do something if you'd play and they didn't do it. That is a **** move. I don't care if the US laws allow corporations to pull **** moves. Again, this is not the US. This is the EVE Universe where a "trustworthy and reliable" corporation, endorsed and sponsored by the creators of said universe, doesn't care enough to refund after they screwed up.
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Amanda Peewith
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.11.11 04:41:00 -
[2267] - Quote
Nanatoa wrote:...SOMER announced they'd do something if you'd play and they didn't do it. That is a **** move...
Yes, you deserve your 16B. Here's what I want to know...you're clearly not an idiot, so
- You know your complaint is actually with CCP, who were the ones who promised the prizes and then reneged after being bullied by the upper crust who don't want riffraff like us owning the same precious innernet space ships THEY have.
- You know SOMER can't give you your 16B back, because I also put X% more internet space moneys in to try to win that ship...and so did he, and also that guy, and those other 1000 guys, and...
So why do you keep pushing this? Here's my guess:
- They're being dicks about it. Ignoring you, not acknowledging your correctness, and not even apologizing.
- It looks like everyone on the pie-list is still fat and happy winning the bonk prizes, gigas, etc. - and average a promo win every other day which alone has probably resulted in more than 16B for each, while you haven't won a single flippin' promo since you started complaining...
- You LOVE the attention, AND the fact that you still have something to complain about
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Nanatoa
444
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Posted - 2013.11.11 16:24:00 -
[2268] - Quote
Amanda Peewith wrote:You know your complaint is actually with CCP,
I disagree. Sure CCP has a part in this, but I don't see why SOMER gets to put all the blame on CCP. For this event, SOMER did a drawing offering prizes to people playing their game, CCP sponsered the prizes, and SOMER ended up with my 16B. Along the way, something went wrong. It doesn't matter to me whether the primary blame is with SOMER or CCP, all I know is that I didn't get a shot at winning a Gold Magnate and SOMER has my 16B. That is why I am still here telling SOMER to do something about this.
And I have filed a petition and made several other forum posts trying to get CCP to do something. I will also keep doing that. Note however that I have to go through the petition system (34 days and counting waiting for a reply) whereas Somerset Mahm has a direct Skype link to CCP.
Amanda Peewith wrote:]You know SOMER can't give you your 16B back, because I also put X% more internet space moneys in to try to win that ship...and so did he, and also that guy, and those other 1000 guys, and...
Sure SOMER can give the isk back. They can set the requirements for a refund to (1) having deposited after the announcement, (2) having played Blinks before the prizes were changed and (3) having requested a refund after the change but before the draw. Not a lot of people will fulfill those requirements, but I do.
"Stay the course, we have done this many times before."
- (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Swedish Spaceman
Norrskensdrommar
Game Of Bears
20
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:18:00 -
[2269] - Quote
I miss the good old days when this thread was about congratulating people that won shiney stuff.
Now is just a mess of people being sore losers. |
G Nesh
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
1
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:34:00 -
[2270] - Quote
I hit on a Rorqual the other day with 1 ticket and no "blink credit" left... |
AgroC Acrag
Stay Frosty.
0
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:20:00 -
[2271] - Quote
Congrats to all winners! :) |
Carver Be'Goode Zanjoahir
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.11.12 02:13:00 -
[2272] - Quote
[Nanatoa wrote:[quote=Amanda Peewith]You know your complaint is actually with CCP,
Well, you could keep on posting all over till you are blue in the face, or you could speed up the blue face process by holding your breath tiil they meet your demands - that will get you just as far and takes less time and energy - but don't forget to breathe, don't hurt yourself over 16 bil in fake money. You are getting an ulcer already, have you thought of who you will blame for that?
And oh yeah, gratz to all winners! |
Ardjet Dawn
Dirty Rotten Imposters
0
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:29:00 -
[2273] - Quote
Does anyone happen to have a copy of the EVE Vegas Blink event winners? |
Nanatoa
448
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:35:00 -
[2274] - Quote
Carver Be'Goode Zanjoahir wrote:You are getting an ulcer already, have you thought of who you will blame for that?
Not getting an ulcer sorry. Also not going gentle into that good night. Just sticking around until this matter is resolved.
"Stay the course, we have done this many times before."
- (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:45:00 -
[2275] - Quote
Ardjet Dawn wrote:Does anyone happen to have a copy of the EVE Vegas Blink event winners?
CCP. |
rooster girl
Caldari Pawn Shop
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:10:00 -
[2276] - Quote
love me some blink |
Nero Guilt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 17:56:00 -
[2277] - Quote
i think its not legaly and destroyed game |
rooster girl
Caldari Pawn Shop
0
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Posted - 2013.11.13 18:48:00 -
[2278] - Quote
Why I think it helps in away it like a second market it gives you a chance to get a ship way less then market value and if your lucky you can make a profit off it I guess its how you look at it |
Cayell
Steamhouse Enemy Engagement Division
3
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:40:00 -
[2279] - Quote
Nanatoa wrote: Just sticking around until this matter is resolved.
It's resolved.
It may not be resolved to your liking, but it's resolved. |
Nanatoa
461
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Posted - 2013.11.18 09:41:00 -
[2280] - Quote
Cayell wrote:It's resolved.
It may not be resolved to your liking, but it's resolved.
We'll have to disagree on that. For one thing, there's still a petition open. (I did finally get a reply after about 5 weeks, to which I replied and now I'm back to waiting again.)
"Stay the course, we have done this many times before."
- (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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