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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.03 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 03/04/2008 05:14:20
It is a pretty well accepted fact that it has been being done for quite some time now. The evidence is pretty overwhelming if your objective in your approach at investigating the subject.
No; I don't have an alert. It is just convenient given my circumstances to maintain an observation here while I am doing other things at the same time.
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Havok Dryke
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Posted - 2008.04.03 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Havok Dryke on 03/04/2008 05:26:23
Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 03/04/2008 05:20:58
Originally by: Havok Dryke
Btw, something tells me that those 1 billion people would be less than co-operative when they saw how easily the gov killed 5 billion others, rather than simply trying to cure/quarantine.
Are you suggesting that ta plague might be introduced to lower the population?
It is a pretty well accepted fact that it has been being done for quite some time now. It is a documented fact in some cases. The evidence is pretty overwhelming if your objective in your approach at investigating the subject.
No; I don't have an alert. It is just convenient given my circumstances to maintain an observation here while I am doing other things at the same time.
See! One minute response time  Yeah, the alert thing was a joke.
Read the website over briefly (will read it over more completely later), it was thought provoking. It's getting late so I'll stick to the basics.
I do agree that human population will drop drastically within the next 100 years. However, I think, however, that this drop will be the result of either humanity overshooting it's environmental carrying capacity, or of gloabl populations finally leveling off and ZPG being achieved. After ZPG would likely be a gradual population dropoff, until humanity reached the point of stable growth. Current projections show that this time of leveling off (of growth that is) will be ~2040-2050, and we should at that point be getting away from fossil fuels. There is enough uranium to power the planet at it's current rate of consumption until the sun burns out, and I assure you that power needs will drop when solar, wind and geothermal come into effect, coupled with less power-intensive machines (Smart car and public transport are good examples).
Also, global fertility rates are in a freefall around the world (going from 5-6/woman to 3-4/woman in single generations in some cases). Some countries are either at ZPG or close to it, and once poverty is reduced in 3rd world countries population growth will decline (Poverty has been linked to overpopulation by many studies).
In conclusion, These factors are much more likely to be the cause of population decline than a shadowy organization that we have no solid proof of (If you have proof then please link it, without flaming). Progress is being made, but the interesting part is whether the population will level off and decline naturally before it reaches a critical point and collapses (causing global famines, wars, and such). I prefer to remain an optimist (we live longer) and believe it will be the former.
That went on longer then I had thought.... Thoughts/discussion? --------------------------------------
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.03 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Havok Dryke
Edit: Also, do you have proof of the NWO causing plagues?
Thoughts/discussion?
I am sure you have heard of the term compartmentalization?
The new world Order is a Hydra with many heads.
As I said in my last post. If you investigate the matter with an open mind there is ample evidence.
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:58:00 -
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Is there enough room in the arvaldcave for me too?
Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Taihira
Kith Somtaaw
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:32:00 -
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Btw, Sephra, you are aware that the Ill umi nat i's links to the U S's sha dow gov ern ment (as evidenced by the pyr amid on dollar bills in your pocket, as I'm sure you're aware) means that every post on the internet is filtered through web-craw ling systems in L os Al amos. (you have read the details, I assume. go study it if not) and the posts you're making are logged, flagged, and traced through the internet back over your tunel and proxy (you ARE using tunnels and proxies are'nt you - it at least makes them harder to track you) to identify your IP, your computer's CPU core ser ial num ber (I'm sure you've studied the documentation about those uni que ser ial no. registration id ent. systems embedded in all chips now, have'nt you?) and through the combined IP/phone/Chip ID, are tracking your every move.
It's probably easier to go up and p*** against the wall of the pentagon, unless you dont keep posting things here. You know fine well that their front organisations are infiltrating online games like this to track you under the "terror" claim, now that they decided the communist storyline was overused, so if you're actually posting here you're either stupid, or wanting to get caught and be a martyr.
The internet is not anonymous, and they are watching your every move.
I'd unplug your CPU right now, get the phone line cut - only use a non-contract mobile bought with cash, and start writing letters to the newspapers you know are'nt under their empire. the postal office isn't nearly as under their command as the internet they created to monitor people's talking through, (remember, do not use ferric oxide-based inks, as their magneto-metric scanners are used to read letters through the envelope, and with the handwriting analysis software will flag up the same keywords - only write in home-made ink from candle soot and honey, like medieval sribes used) and there is much more safety.
keep up the good work, but write to the newspapers, dont post about this stuff on the internet where THEY are watching
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 03/04/2008 09:53:31 yes of course they are dumbing down poeple that is because they themselfs are alittle bit on the dumb side unconscious of natural law we shouldnt worry about whatever they are doing instead we should work on waking up ourselfs from our infant intellect who constantly brings us into trouble through its judgemental attitude, various theories and concepts having nothing to do with that what is. bliss is choiceless. it is the only way to a sane society. people gotta work on themselfs personally - no one can do it for them.
wake up from sleep wake up dont let your inner space be polluted by any dark theories and concepts its of no use whatsoever - the more you spend thinking on this the more energy you give to it - what more could those weird poeple ask for wake up
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 03/04/2008 10:34:07 Discover the story behind Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Mena Arkansas cocane smuggling operation they ran, while Bill was govenor, prior to the presidency.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 03/04/2008 10:34:07 Discover the story behind Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Mena Arkansas cocane smuggling operation they ran, while Bill was govenor, prior to the presidency.
what this matters to you personally ?
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:44:00 -
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Lets just say it matters and leave it at that.
If for no other reason than the 2 kids that were murdered.
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Ravin Abai
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:16:00 -
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lols
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.03 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 03/04/2008 12:18:08
Originally by: Havok Dryke
Edit: Also, do you have proof of the NWO causing plagues?
Thoughts/discussion?
I am sure you have heard of the term compartmentalization?
The new world Order is a Hydra with many heads.
As I said in my last post. If you investigate the matter with an open mind there is ample evidence. If you don't do your own due dilligence you would likely not accept the information anyway.
I'm perfectly good with my own beliefs right now, if you want to convince me to your way of thinking you gotta provide me with at least a link or two.
Anyway, thread has been sufficiently derailed, cya --------------------------------------
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Sharupak
Knights Of the Black Sun Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.04 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sharupak on 04/04/2008 01:42:09 All conspiracy aside, this is a substance not to be ****** around with.
Outside the food and dental industry, this is considered a poison and a pretty harmful one at that.
Hazmat MSDS Safety Data Sheet
Now I realize there is a difference in inhaling the **** in a factory that produces it.
But on the other hand, its actually kinda scary how U.S. Politicians push this stuff with great gusto...especially when many other european countries have all but banned its use. The buildup in the body is pretty serious as it stays in the body for 9 years.
Perhaps toothpaste would be ok, but what about toothpaste and water? What about toothpaste, water and food? What about toothpaste, water, food and all your dental visits? How could the FDA possibly know with accuracy that everyone is ingesting safe levels of this stuff. It says right on the sheet...DO NOT INGEST! Now they want to put it on food? Also, any person past the age of 25 with a spell of "wild teenage years" knows how effectively the body can absorb LSD on the tongue. Asside from the nose, there is no quicker way to get something into the blood stream with potency.
I certainly dont think it is crazy to be concerned.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 04:45:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 04/04/2008 04:46:27
Originally by: Havok Dryke
I'm perfectly good with my own beliefs right now, if you want to convince me to your way of thinking you gotta provide me with at least a link or two.
You can't come to understant the scope of it in a link, or two. It requires a lengthy study to comprehend the insidiousness of what is going on and how it is carried out.
The WHO and the vaccines that have been used in Africa and many other 3rd world countries would be good place to start.
Eugenics, Racism and Population Control.
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Havok Dryke
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Posted - 2008.04.04 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 04/04/2008 04:46:27
Originally by: Havok Dryke
I'm perfectly good with my own beliefs right now, if you want to convince me to your way of thinking you gotta provide me with at least a link or two.
You can't come to understant the scope of it in a link, or two. It requires a lengthy study to comprehend the insidiousness of what is going on and how it is carried out.
The WHO and the vaccines that have been used in Africa and many other 3rd world countries would be good place to start.
Eugenics, Racism and Population Control.
Thanks, will examine it later. --------------------------------------
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Havok Dryke
Thanks, will examine it later.
Once you begin to understand how things are carried out under the guise of philanthropy in cooperation with the WHO using tainted, experimental, or worse vaccines perhaps you will begin to understand.
The program is not restricted to the third world either. It goes on right under our noses in the industrialized world.
WASHINGTON POST ADMITS PRISON-AIDS TIE
As I said before you cannot possibly comprehend it in a link, or two. It requires a very lengthy study, but if you are determined to get at the truth the information is there.
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Arvald
Warp Riders Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.04 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Orion Eridanus Is there enough room in the arvaldcave for me too?
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.04.04 08:16:00 -
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So what did the military do to **** you off sephra? As a side note my primary MOS was Rifleman. I didnt graduate at the top of my class.
Whats wrong with sulfuryl flouride any way? Its a pretty inert gas, water doesnt begin to break it down until temperatures go above 150 C and it leaves no residue. Seems pretty safe to me unless your going to be standing in a cloud of it while eating your food.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Orion Eridanus
Whats wrong with sulfuryl flouride any way?
Hazmat MSDS Safety Data Sheet
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Frezik
Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment
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Posted - 2008.04.04 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star You have to approach it like a jig saw puzzle. If you take the time to collect enough pieces and then through careful analysys put it all together the picture will become crystal clear.
Or more likely, taking several different jigsaw puzzles and trying to jam their pieces together.
Everything you've posted is explainable with either harmless organizations that you're trying to attach malice to, or incompetent/evil organizations working on their own. Nothing points to conspiracy, just a bunch of separate cases that have to be dealt with individually.
The larger the conspiracy is, the more likely somebody in it will be a whistleblower. Especially if the conspiracy goes across several companies and government agencies.
Comparisons to General Ripper are quite apt. But I suppose that you'll say that Kubrick was part of the conspiracy.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 04/04/2008 15:38:06
Originally by: Frezik
Originally by: Sephra Star You have to approach it like a jig saw puzzle. If you take the time to collect enough pieces and then through careful analysys put it all together the picture will become crystal clear.
Or more likely, taking several different jigsaw puzzles and trying to jam their pieces together.
Everything you've posted is explainable with either harmless organizations that you're trying to attach malice to, or incompetent/evil organizations working on their own. Nothing points to conspiracy, just a bunch of separate cases that have to be dealt with individually.
The larger the conspiracy is, the more likely somebody in it will be a whistleblower. Especially if the conspiracy goes across several companies and government agencies.
Comparisons to General Ripper are quite apt. But I suppose that you'll say that Kubrick was part of the conspiracy.
The history; and the ongoing practices of Eugenics are indisputable fact and well documented. The inumerable examples of tainted drugs used by the WHO under cover of the philanthropic programs financed by the members of the Committee of 300 with their innoculation drives that have caused mass unreported deaths is indicative of intentional genocide. It only takes a single person to taint a medical supply, so to expect a whistle blower is not likely. In any event whistle blowers if too dangerous are silenced either by assassination, or they are ignored and/or character assassinated by the media. If it is not on TV, or in the newspapers it is not real in the delusional reality created by the NWO.
Nice and comfortable to ignore mass murder when it is not a member of your family, or friend. Better to maintain your Care Bear delusions then face the reality that you have been conditioned and brainwashed not to see the truth even when it is right in front of you.
Considering the systamatic decimation of the population in Africa from sickness, famine, and intentionally caused wars coupled with the *****of that continants natural resources by transnational corporations controlled by the leaders of Globalization it is pretty much a no brainer as to what has been going on and who is reponsable.
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
Here is a whistle blower. Since you have never seen him on TV he is probably just fictional and cannot possibly be telling the truth.
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Frezik
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star The history; and the ongoing practices of Eugenics are indisputable fact and well documented. The inumerable examples of tainted drugs used by the WHO under cover of the philanthropic programs financed by the members of the Committee of 300 with their innoculation drives that have caused mass unreported deaths is indicative of intentional genocide. It only takes a single person to taint a medical supply, so to expect a whistle blower is not likely. In any event whistle are silenced either by assassination, or they are ignored by the media. If it is not on TV, or in the newspapers it is not real in the delusional reality created by the NWO.
None of which requires a vast conspiracy. Just a few greedy corporations that have an interest in testing drugs on humans before the FDA or like organizations would normally allow, and have political influence on the WHO. It's undeniably evil, but one that is unlikely to be connected to all the other evil/incompetent things go on.
If there's any connection at all, it's from emergent properties of the system; separate entities working alone produce complex group behavior. For instance, to address the first issue of the thread, it's unlikely that people advocating fluoridated drinking water are part of a conspiracy to keep us docile. They see evidence of health benefits (whether it's correct or not) and go from there without knowing of the possible harm.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 04/04/2008 16:00:06
Your right of course, genocide is not a conspiracy.
It is the POLICY
If you knew all the things I know from many years of research you would not so easily brush it off as coincedence. You would see it for what it is.
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
Here is a whistle blower. Since you have never seen him on TV he is probably just fictional and cannot possibly be telling the truth.
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Sephra Star
The Galactic Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:38:00 -
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And here is the answer to it...
How to create an angry human being.
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Orion Eridanus on 04/04/2008 20:11:16
Originally by: Sephra Star
Originally by: Orion Eridanus
Whats wrong with sulfuryl fluoride any way?
Hazmat MSDS Safety Data Sheet
Sephra all you did with that link was prove that you don't read anything at all, I said Sulfuryl Fluoride not sodium fluoride. They are two different compounds
Sulfuryl Fluoride-SO2F2 Sodium Fluoride- NF
Its Sulfuryl fluoride that DOW wants to use on some crops as an insecticide It is a inert gas at almost all temperatures you'll come across on earth and isn't water soluble until its temperature goes above 150 C. It doesn't leave a residue and its going to be used post harvest. Since its going to be used post harvest it's gonna be used in an enclosed building its threat as an inhalation hazard is removed unless one so chooses to stand in the building and intentionaly breath it in.
All Fluoride salts( NF and its variations) are toxic to the human body because they break down and the flouride bonds with the calcium ions causing hypocalcemia
Edited for spelling
Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 04/04/2008 20:35:24 You have to understand that it is not just the level in one source, but the increased levels we are being subjected to from multiple sources.
YOUR WRONG it leaves a residue on the food.
Although the EPA says itĘs safe, fluoride activists believe that ProFume, a pesticide used to keep rodents and insects out of food-storage facilities, warehouses, and shipping containers, may contain levels of fluoride dangerous to humans. Elevated fluoride levels have been linked to reduced cognitive ability, pineal gland imbalance, and tooth decay.
SULFUYL FLUORIDE DOCUMENTS.
ProFume« is the name of the Dow AgroSciences fumigant that was approved for first-time use on food by US EPA in January 2004.
It contains 99.8% sulfuryl fluoride.
Sulfuryl fluoride breaks down to the fluoride anion in the human body.
Fluoride is the toxicological endpoint of concern.
SULFUYL FLUORIDE DOCUMENTS.
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Orion Eridanus
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:57:00 -
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Can you post with proof from groups that aren't biased?
Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 04/04/2008 20:59:44
Originally by: Orion Eridanus Can you post with proof from groups that aren't biased?
If you want Biased information go to DOW who produces it.
Your request is idiotic.
The links I posted are thorough and list all the documents and information from both sides of the issue.
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.04.04 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: pwnedgato on 04/04/2008 21:04:57 The stupid in this thread is thick enough to cut with a child
Originally by: Crumplecorn These is a forum for this.
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