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Grozen
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:51:00 -
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were seeing stable 90k atm predictions?My guess its gonna stabilize at 130k.
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Asuka Smith
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:52:00 -
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Yeah I saw it shoot up 7k overnight, incredible.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:42:00 -
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And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
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MentaFox
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: MentaFox on 02/04/2008 17:25:13
 Originally by: Shadarle
And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
Jesus, Shad, why do all your posts have to be negative, smacktalking, and ignorant?
Note how the OP wrote "PREDICTIONS?"
EDIT: Typo
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 02/04/2008 17:32:35
Originally by: MentaFox
Originally by: Shadarle
And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
Jesus, Shard, why do all your posts have to be negative, smacktalking, and ignorant?
Note how the OP wrote "PREDICTIONS?"
Shadarle needs to bash a few noobs a day in order to feel good, I thought everyone knew that. I for one got used to him being the way he is. If you weigh in his overall contribution you'll see that he's pretty useful to this community, in fact I would dare say irreplaceable.
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:31:00 -
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As high as the market will bear.
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LifeLines
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Grozen
were seeing stable 90k atm predictions?My guess its gonna stabilize at 130k.
why would it stabilize? while the supply is limited to x moons, demand is limitless  we need a dyspro moon asap 
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: MentaFox
Edited by: MentaFox on 02/04/2008 17:25:13
Originally by: Shadarle
And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
Jesus, Shad, why do all your posts have to be negative, smacktalking, and ignorant?
Note how the OP wrote "PREDICTIONS?"
EDIT: Typo
Which is exactly why the post is worthless. The only predictions you will get are from people who don't know the market or from people who are already speculating and/or involved directly in the market, thus making their predictions more self-serving than helpful.
For example, if I wanted to I could have simply bought out the entire market and then posted here:
"Through extensive research into this, a lot of my contacts in the moon industry, and a few other sources I cannot reveal, the price is going to shoot up substantially in the near future. A lot of people are about to work together to triple the price, to do this they are going to start holding back all their produced units for a week and will pool their money to buy out the market. This will happen within 48 hours."
Instead I gave him an honest opinion, that opinion was that he shouldn't expect honest answers.
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LRN
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: LRN on 02/04/2008 18:55:50
You really shouldn't expect everyone to be as egocentric as you Shadarle. Your petty excuse although doesn't make much sense will do fine though.
P.S. stop quoting me before I'm even done editing! Now my syntax sucks and I can't alter it!
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: LRN
Edited by: LRN on 02/04/2008 18:49:26
You really shouldn't expect everyone to be as egocentric as you Shadarle. Your petty excuse although doesn't make much sense will do fine though.
If others wish to be more philanthropic that is their own loss.
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:55:00 -
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Supply: Fixed and already at a maximum with intermittent interruptions thanks to war
Demand: Steadily increasing with growth near patches
It seems the general trend will be for it to rise until T2 prices approach something along the lines of pre-invention values. Sure, most of that growth occurs in spurts during the shortages war brings or in anticipation of new content brought by patches but we are looking at serious longterm growth in prices.
I'm not going to publicly speculate on where it will stabilize with this spurt but I will say that I expect it to have reached 150k by the end of this year unless CCP does something.
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Brisco Smiley
Peppermint Bay Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
For example, if I wanted to I could have simply bought out the entire market and then posted here:
"Through extensive research into this, a lot of my contacts in the moon industry, and a few other sources I cannot reveal, the price is going to shoot up substantially in the near future. A lot of people are about to work together to triple the price, to do this they are going to start holding back all their produced units for a week and will pool their money to buy out the market. This will happen within 48 hours."
Or, for example, if you wanted to buy a lot of minerals, you could have posted here:
"I am getting the impression, from my monitoring of many different markets, that minerals are about to crash really hard. The key market I am watching is the freighter market. Over the last few months prices have slowly been coming down, in that time trit prices went up... thus destroying the margins. Not only that but I am seeing large stockpiles build up in many places that used to have 2-3 at most. When people stop manufacturing freighters it will start having an effect on trit in particular. I have also noticed pricing edging down among most other T1 ships. Prices can't keep coming down without minerals taking a dive to compensate, so I am predicting a downturn in at least a few mineral markets." 
Cheers,
Brisco Smiley.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 02/04/2008 20:31:54
Originally by: Brisco Smiley
Originally by: Shadarle
For example, if I wanted to I could have simply bought out the entire market and then posted here:
"Through extensive research into this, a lot of my contacts in the moon industry, and a few other sources I cannot reveal, the price is going to shoot up substantially in the near future. A lot of people are about to work together to triple the price, to do this they are going to start holding back all their produced units for a week and will pool their money to buy out the market. This will happen within 48 hours."
Or, for example, if you wanted to buy a lot of minerals, you could have posted here:
"I am getting the impression, from my monitoring of many different markets, that minerals are about to crash really hard. The key market I am watching is the freighter market. Over the last few months prices have slowly been coming down, in that time trit prices went up... thus destroying the margins. Not only that but I am seeing large stockpiles build up in many places that used to have 2-3 at most. When people stop manufacturing freighters it will start having an effect on trit in particular. I have also noticed pricing edging down among most other T1 ships. Prices can't keep coming down without minerals taking a dive to compensate, so I am predicting a downturn in at least a few mineral markets."
Cheers,
Brisco Smiley.
You have my motivations wrong behind it, but it was indeed 100% intended to have an impact on the market. Why else would I have posted it?
When I make a post it is always intended to have an impact, though not always where you might think and not always a large one. Anyone who makes a post or says anything and doesn't want anyone to read it and draw something from it is wasting their own time. I don't think it's too shocking to think there is a reason everyone posts everything. Sometimes that reason is to draw a laugh from someone, sometimes it is to help a friend, sometimes it is to manipulate an entire market in EVE.
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Grozen
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:06:00 -
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as soon as i posted this the next day i see 130k dyspro lol i bet someone is manipulating thier bum off but it won't last long cuz new supply will enter soon.
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Gilesakor
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:26:00 -
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The supply you're thinking of is a small % in the global market. That supply was available a few weeks ago, and yet the markets were still climbing.
Originally by: Grozen
Edited by: Grozen on 03/04/2008 12:41:14
as soon as i posted this the next day i see 130k dyspro lol i bet someone is manipulating their bum off but it won't last long cuz new supply will enter soon.
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Grozen
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:20:00 -
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at these lvls is it even profitable to buy it anymore if it goes more people will destroy their margins.
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.03 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: MentaFox
Edited by: MentaFox on 02/04/2008 17:25:13
Originally by: Shadarle
And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
Jesus, Shad, why do all your posts have to be negative, smacktalking, and ignorant?
Note how the OP wrote "PREDICTIONS?"
Which is exactly why the post is worthless. The only predictions you will get are from people who don't know the market or from people who are already speculating and/or involved directly in the market, thus making their predictions more self-serving than helpful.
For example, if I wanted to I could have simply bought out the entire market and then posted here:
"Through extensive research into this, a lot of my contacts in the moon industry, and a few other sources I cannot reveal, the price is going to shoot up substantially in the near future. A lot of people are about to work together to triple the price, to do this they are going to start holding back all their produced units for a week and will pool their money to buy out the market. This will happen within 48 hours."
Instead I gave him an honest opinion, that opinion was that he shouldn't expect honest answers.
Even a dishonest answer is useful information. The smart people are going to think "Huh, wonder why Shadarle wanted me to think that?" while the dumb ones are handing over isk for a learning experience.
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Grozen
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.04.03 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tasko Pal
Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: MentaFox
Edited by: MentaFox on 02/04/2008 17:25:13
Originally by: Shadarle
And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
Jesus, Shad, why do all your posts have to be negative, smacktalking, and ignorant?
Note how the OP wrote "PREDICTIONS?"
Which is exactly why the post is worthless. The only predictions you will get are from people who don't know the market or from people who are already speculating and/or involved directly in the market, thus making their predictions more self-serving than helpful.
For example, if I wanted to I could have simply bought out the entire market and then posted here:
"Through extensive research into this, a lot of my contacts in the moon industry, and a few other sources I cannot reveal, the price is going to shoot up substantially in the near future. A lot of people are about to work together to triple the price, to do this they are going to start holding back all their produced units for a week and will pool their money to buy out the market. This will happen within 48 hours."
Instead I gave him an honest opinion, that opinion was that he shouldn't expect honest answers.
Even a dishonest answer is useful information. The smart people are going to think "Huh, wonder why Shadarle wanted me to think that?" while the dumb ones are handing over isk for a learning experience.
Im gratefull for all answers specially some from him i learn something everyday
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MentaFox
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: MentaFox
Edited by: MentaFox on 02/04/2008 17:25:13
Originally by: Shadarle
And you expect someone smarter than you to tell you the answer to this question why?
Jesus, Shad, why do all your posts have to be negative, smacktalking, and ignorant?
Note how the OP wrote "PREDICTIONS?"
EDIT: Typo
Which is exactly why the post is worthless. The only predictions you will get are from people who don't know the market or from people who are already speculating and/or involved directly in the market, thus making their predictions more self-serving than helpful.
For example, if I wanted to I could have simply bought out the entire market and then posted here:
"Through extensive research into this, a lot of my contacts in the moon industry, and a few other sources I cannot reveal, the price is going to shoot up substantially in the near future. A lot of people are about to work together to triple the price, to do this they are going to start holding back all their produced units for a week and will pool their money to buy out the market. This will happen within 48 hours."
Instead I gave him an honest opinion, that opinion was that he shouldn't expect honest answers.
Yeah, i mean come on now, a little debate on the eve-o forums would be a total disaster..
Everything dosnt have to be yes/no and wrong/right.
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:28:00 -
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Debate is one thing. Asking other people for market manipulation advice is another thing.
If you are going to ask for something you should give something in return. A one line post deserves a worthless answer. If you want real discussion you should make a post that explains what is going on (from your viewpoint), where you think things are going and why you think they are going there. If you don't include some useful info then you're just asking for free money making advice and that will almost never yield worthwhile results.
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Grozen
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Posted - 2008.04.03 20:32:00 -
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well well looks like i was damn right  as i speak dysprosium hits 105k per unit and the manipulators are having hard time fighting of the supply.Hehehe 95k by tomorrow?For sure.
knowledge is power |
Shakuul
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:28:00 -
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It just touched 130k a few hours ago, but now its back down towards 100k and some of the buy orders (which were at 90k) are now gone, the highest buy is like 81k. It might be heading back down...who knows.
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Trader Joe's
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:08:00 -
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I think it's more like the people who buy from the sell orders are hoping it goes back down so aren't buying much at the new higher prices yet therefor some of the sellers are getting desperate so are willing to lower prices a bit to get the quick sale.
Buyers aren't willing to move their prices up because they a) always want to get it cheap as possible and b) are worried it may in fact correct back by 15-20k.
I bet it keeps going up.. possibly after a minor bump down to correct for this latest jump. But it's all guessing on my part.
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Petyr Baelich
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:36:00 -
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From the jita activity people are either buying it and using it or buying it and hording it. Even when it was at 105k yesterday, and people were dropping large ammounts into the buy orders, not very many new sell orders were entering the market. Prices will continue to climb unless people start cashing out or stop doing reactions. If they stop doing reactions the prices will fall in the short term but then rebound as soon as they start buying again. Either way, prices are going to continue to climb (over time) until either supply increases or demand decreases.
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Sophie Daigneau
Risky Advanced Production Enterprises
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.05 16:52:00 -
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Hypersynaptic Fibers and Fermionic Condensates are now selling for a slight loss due to the rise in price of Dysprosium. Either they'll have to go up soon, or Dysprosium will come back down in price. My bet is they go up.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.04.05 20:05:00 -
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id like everyone to know that dysprosium is great for buying and selling and so is ferrogel
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