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Alenia Asthare
Quantum Knights
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:01:00 -
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Is it viable to use heavy missiles against frigates? I'm fitting out a drake for lowsec (mostly ratting, but want to be able to defend myself). Would it be better to use all heavy, or go with a combination of heavy, and light assault?
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:03:00 -
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You would be better served using a full complement of 5 light drones to take out frigates. Leave the heavies for cruiser and larger sized targets.
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AKULA UrQuan
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:07:00 -
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"Guided Missile Precision" trained to 4, then add a good target painter. For low sec ratting don't be anywhere near the warpin point.
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Alenia Asthare
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:20:00 -
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Would the drones be enough to fend off, say, and assault frig?
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AKULA UrQuan
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:29:00 -
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not really. 
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Inertial
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Alenia Asthare
Would the drones be enough to fend off, say, and assault frig?
Not if the AF pilot knows what he is doing.
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Plight Sinake
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Posted - 2008.04.03 13:40:00 -
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though the drakes tanks should keep it alive!
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Omarvelous on 03/04/2008 14:03:32
Originally by: Alenia Asthare
Would the drones be enough to fend off, say, and assault frig?
When I flew my blaster harpy - my priority list for my guns was drones > tackled ship. That was because the actual ship was larger than me and its weapons system rarely posed a direct threat, however the drones (especially EM drones) would eat me up if I didn't kill them off (which is really easy with a range bonus on fast tracking blasters).
That said - your drake if properly setup would tank my harpy all day long, so its not like I would be able to kill you either. That is assuming neither of us is social enough to have friends nearby to help out.  
The best way to deal with an assault frigate is a web and a neut (which you probably can't fit on a Drake). The web will trap the assault frigate, and then your heavy missile picked against the AF weakness (EM Caldari, Explosive Gallente, Kinetic Minmitar, Thermal Amar) + your drones (even if they get shot up they'll get some hits on target for you).
Make sure you have precision missiles IV and target navigation IV to counter the frigate's greatest strengths (small size and speed). Drones V is a must to have your full flight of 5x light drones. You don't need a maxed out level IV mission running passive drake setup to deal with belt rats, so fit a web.
To be honest going asteroid belt ratting in a lone Drake is silly (unless you're looking for anomalies). You can kill BS sized rats in a heavy assault missile Caracal, and have far less isk on the line when a pirate finds you.
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Alenia Asthare
Quantum Knights
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Posted - 2008.04.04 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
To be honest going asteroid belt ratting in a lone Drake is silly (unless you're looking for anomalies). You can kill BS sized rats in a heavy assault missile Caracal, and have far less isk on the line when a pirate finds you.
I actually have been doing anomolies, just figured I'd simplify my post
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Dheorl
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Posted - 2008.04.04 10:03:00 -
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If any assult frig find you your missiles will only be doing about 20% of their original damage. Just a heads up.
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Hairygoagain
The Black Ops
Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.04 12:36:00 -
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If you are trying to hit player ships then you will need T2 launchers and Heavy Precision missiles. With the correct skills these can be more effective against fast frigates, but the missiles have a design flaw, as they have similar stats to Cruise precisions, rather than being in-between Light and Cruise!
Lee
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2008.04.04 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hairygoagain
If you are trying to hit player ships then you will need T2 launchers and Heavy Precision missiles. With the correct skills these can be more effective against fast frigates, but the missiles have a design flaw, as they have similar stats to Cruise precisions, rather than being in-between Light and Cruise!
Lee
Yep heavy precisions are pretty much worthless. An assault frigate isn't going to be able to speed tank your standard missiles - however its sig radius will greatly reduce incoming damage. The key is to remember the ship's tank resist hole (as I mentioned earlier) and fire that particular type of missile. That combined with 5 light drones ought to be able to discourage a lone AF to attack you.
A speed tanked interceptor will keep a point on you forever because you will lack the weaponry to deal with speed tanks outside of web range (unless you can use warrior II's - even still most well fit interceptors will outrun them).
In the end your best defense against ships while you're running anomalies is to stay aligned and watch your scanner. If you're attacked by a tech 2 frigate - chances are the pilot isn't stupid enough to engage you without friends (AF or inty will just tank you and then bring in their drake killing blob).
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