EVE Search - Rupture vs Vexor vs Arbitrator?

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Rupture vs Vexor vs Arbitrator?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Manthicore	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:43:00 - [1] Hi! I am looking into these three cruisers to understand which one is better overall or for specific tasks. They are similar: armor tank, good use of drone (rupture) or heavy use (vexor-arbitrator), about the same layout but which one is the best all around? which one is the best as gank? or as tanker? as ratter? in a gang? Thanks in advance!
Helios Hyperion	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:47:00 - [2] well, for one, good call. those are some really great t1 cruisers. rupture- gank arbi and vexor- tank all are good for ratting but the arbi isn't as good as others. in a gang the arbi and rupture rock. vexor's drones are too slow for a fast gang
Sokratesz	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:48:00 - [3] Rupture - gank, can be used for pvp with a 1600 plate Vexor & arbitrator - can fit a speed tank with drones for dps I only really have experience with the rupture and it's a hard little nugget with 2x eanm 1x 1600 plate and gank fit. All of them seem suited for npc'ing with the vexor/arbi having lower dps but selectable damagetypes. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it I refuse to read SHC
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:53:00 - [4] Edited by: Raivi on 05/04/2008 08:55:28 Well for solo work I'd choose a Rupture with a 1600mm plate, no rep, and ecm drones. It's a beast of a ship. I'd bet isk on a well setup and skilled Rupture beating either a Vexor or an Arbitrator 1on1 almost all of the time. I've killed Recon ships with it on multiple occasions. For ratting the Vexor and Arbitrator are both good, the Vexor would be a bit better since it's a higher tier and has more fitting and hp. All three of those cruisers can be very effective in gangs, it really depends on personal preference. My favorite for gang work would be the Rupture but the Arbitrator when equipped with tracking disruptors can be extra valuable in a gang, doing both dps and e-war. All three ships can tank ok when setup correctly, the Rupture and the Vexor a bit more so because of their tier advantage (more grid and base hitpoints) over the Arbi. For pvp in tech 1 cruisers I am personally a huge fan of buffer tanks. I never fit armor repairers on them, just plates and resistance mods (a damage control is a must). --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
Helios Hyperion	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:56:00 - [5] raivi has wisdom.
Euriti	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:22:00 - [6] Why haven't you considered the Thorax? It's AMAZING with 1600mm plate, EANM x2 and a DCU. 25k EHP and with t2 drones and blasters it puts out 350 DPS at max skills. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Euriti Why haven't you considered the Thorax? It's AMAZING with 1600mm plate, EANM x2 and a DCU. 25k EHP and with t2 drones and blasters it puts out 350 DPS at max skills. If you have the skills for T2 RCUs you can even fit a 1600mm with heavy electrons, which is a sweet setup. Lets you do enough dps with guns that you can put your drone bay to it's best use by bringing out medium ECM drones. A thorax with medium ecm drones is the only t1 cruiser I worry about fighting when I'm in a Rupture. --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
Markit Broker Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:27:00 - [8] you comparing different classes it should be: rupture & thorax & maller all tier 3 cruisers you actually comparing minmatar tier 3 with amarr and gallente tier 2 classes. is there another call of buffing minmatar as you vertually saying that a minmatar tier 3 cruiser preforms as good as gallente and amarr tier 2 cruiser classes?
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:37:00 - [9] Thankfully, tiers aren't everything. The Arbitrator is actually much better for pvp than the Maller for instance. CCP has stated they want to move away from a concept of higher tiers being better overall and to having the tiers be "different, not better" when possible. --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
Schaduwtroon The Phoenix Mercenaries Mournival Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:58:00 - [10] Of the ships you put out here yourself I'd say definately the Rupture. It's a great ship and can fit some mean gank! It can be a bit hard to fit sometimes though, especially if you'd like to give artillery a try. But with autocannon's it's one mean beast. The Thorax mentioned by one of the other posters could be a good alternative, mostly depending on which weapons you prefer. Thorax is hybrid weapons, blasters are best on it. Rupture is projectile weapons. I prefer the Rupture just because it has the potential for sky-high damage. The Vexor is a great ratter if you like to play a bit laidback, your drones supported by a few railguns will kill most rats easily and you can fit a great tank on it. Using a Medium Armor Repper II, some resistance plating and Cap Rechargers/Cap Power Relays lets you tank almost anything that you'll encounter! I dig Vexor's because they're the chill ship to fly. Fit blasters on it and lighten up the tank a bit for some Magnetic Field Stabilizers and it's a mean pvp dps-beast as well! -Schaduw
Mel Gibbson	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:13:00 - [11] If you're talking about getting close, web and F1-F8. Thorax is the best. However i like the Arbitrator. A little plate to tank the drones (kill them first), nano and use TD's, you will pwn any turrent ship. Why do you think the winners of that 2bil crusier tournament was won by 2 arbitrators speedfitted?
Manthicore	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:28:00 - [12] Thanks for your feedback. I choose these cruisers becouse I am a drone user more than a turret one so I leave out the thorax. The rupture seems to be prefered from most, so another question: Is a rupture with minmatar cuiser 4 and medium projectile 4 and missile skills to 4 better than a vexor with combat drone to 4 and drone interfacing to 5, T2 small hybrid, gallente cruiser to 5 (for pvp solo and in gang)?
Raivi	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:40:00 - [13] With those skills I would prefer flying the Vexor. --------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Red vs. Blue!
Helios Hyperion	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:16:00 - [14] use vexor most definitely with those skills. you'll get some sweet gank.. plz plz plz don't fit small guns on my thorax.
Euriti	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Helios Hyperion use vexor most definitely with those skills. you'll get some sweet gank.. plz plz plz don't fit small guns on my thorax. If you don't have AWU I and Engi 5, you don't have a choice. 800mm electron won't fit then. And to the poster who talked about pushing out alot of DPS. Max skilled Ion thorax with 3x MFS and ECM drones does 450+ DPS. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Helios Hyperion	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:26:00 - [16] gank without awu 5 thorax Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor I Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Vespa EC-600 x5 or drop a magstab for an eanm if you have skills or are a btch
Euriti	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Helios Hyperion gank without awu 5 thorax Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor I Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Vespa EC-600 x5 or drop a magstab for an eanm if you have skills or are a btch With those skills (t2 mediums and Hull upgrades 5 etc.) why don't you just go get a brutix? O,o Use 1600mm small blaster thorax untill you have skills for BC. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Helios Hyperion Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:41:00 - [18] P lol, i do fly brutix, it's my killmail *****. i posted my fit for that bad mo on a brutix thread a little ways down. lol, ppl gotta know how to fit em right
Helios Hyperion Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:44:00 - [19] i still fly the thorax after having the skills to fit this too.. AAHHHH thorax 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Vespa EC-600 x5
Markit Broker Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Raivi Thankfully, tiers aren't everything. The Arbitrator is actually much better for pvp than the Maller for instance. CCP has stated they want to move away from a concept of higher tiers being better overall and to having the tiers be "different, not better" when possible. I doubt arbitrator is "actually much better for pvp" than Maller. I won't completely deny your point of view. i believe it is all down to personal favours and the fittings and how you react in PvPs. with all that said i still prefer the maller over arbitrator.
Euriti SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Markit Broker Originally by: Raivi Thankfully, tiers aren't everything. The Arbitrator is actually much better for pvp than the Maller for instance. CCP has stated they want to move away from a concept of higher tiers being better overall and to having the tiers be "different, not better" when possible. I doubt arbitrator is "actually much better for pvp" than Maller. I won't completely deny your point of view. i believe it is all down to personal favours and the fittings and how you react in PvPs. with all that said i still prefer the maller over arbitrator. Double TD any turret ship and it'll be ******.
Htrag The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2008.04.05 14:25:00 - [22] Edited by: Htrag on 05/04/2008 14:26:37 I rank T1 cruisers like this for pvp: 1) Rupture 2) Thorax (this is my personal favorite, 479 kills with this baby) 3) Arbitrator 4) Vexor All of these have a great combination of dps and tank. The first two can be used under sentry fire, if fitted with a plate, with enough tank to kill a hauler, collect the loot, and squish the pod, and warp out. 5) Celestis Using damps and keeping range, this ship can actually beat any of the above ships 1v1 with a little time. ofc any of the lower ranked ships can beat a higher ranked ship 1v1, depending on setup, and the difference in rank is very very close. I've even seen decent caracals. I dont fly mallers or stabbers but I would guess they rank up there as well.
Helios Hyperion Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.04.05 14:50:00 - [23] right on ht, a stabber is a nice fly though as well.. but only makes sense with vaga skills
Frosty9 Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.04.05 15:38:00 - [24] ...notice how no caldari ships are in this thread. Why is that, oh yea cause they suck at pvp. Something def needs to change with caldari and pvp.
Manthicore State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Htrag I rank T1 cruisers like this for pvp: 1) Rupture 2) Thorax (this is my personal favorite, 479 kills with this baby) 3) Arbitrator 4) Vexor eheh vexor is my favourite ship, see it so low hurts :) Another question: what do you think is best in pvp a T1 rupture (all support skill to 4) or a thorax with 1600 and t2 small blaster? Do you put arbitrator up just for its ewar ability (I imagine in a nano configuration due to the tracking drisruption is best with fast target)?
Raivi Red. Red Republic	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Frosty9 ...notice how no caldari ships are in this thread. Why is that, oh yea cause they suck at pvp. Something def needs to change with caldari and pvp. Caldari cruisers aren't that great for solo work, but the Caracal is quite potent as part of a gang. Also keep in mind that the Drake and Raven (when setup correctly) are right near the very top of their classes for short to mid range pvp ability. Caldari are an excellent race for pvp with the right skills and setups, I fly half Caldari half Matari on this character and love it. --------------------------------------------- Red vs. Blue!
Garmon Genos Occidere Boner Bandits	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:17:00 - [27] The difference between t2 and t1 blasters isn't really that big, since your going to use the same ammo anyway really ( Federation antimatter ), but with t2 minmatar guns, barrage makes a huuuge difference, so untill you can use them, i'd suggest using a Vexor or Thorax __________________________________ Garmonation - Rupture fun video
Raivi Red. Red Republic	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:23:00 - [28] Edited by: Raivi on 05/04/2008 16:28:34 Originally by: Helios Hyperion i still fly the thorax after having the skills to fit this too.. AAHHHH thorax 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Vespa EC-600 x5 That's the win setup right there. This and the 1600mm/ECM drone Rupture setup are the two solo t1 cruisers setups that are more awesome than almost anyone expects. They'll kill almost all other t1 cruisers, have a shot against overconfident HACs and Recon ships, and what they can't kill they can usually escape from. I love them because when I'm in my Huginn or Vaga people always run away, but when you're in an underestimated Rupture or Thorax you can get plenty of willing fights. :Edit: Hey Garmon, when's that highdef version of your video coming out? I'm looking forward to it. --------------------------------------------- Red vs. Blue!
Htrag The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:25:00 - [29] Edited by: Htrag on 05/04/2008 16:34:52 Originally by: Manthicore Originally by: Htrag I rank T1 cruisers like this for pvp: 1) Rupture 2) Thorax (this is my personal favorite, 479 kills with this baby) 3) Arbitrator 4) Vexor eheh vexor is my favourite ship, see it so low hurts :) Another question: what do you think is best in pvp a T1 rupture (all support skill to 4) or a thorax with 1600 and t2 small blaster? Do you put arbitrator up just for its ewar ability (I imagine in a nano configuration due to the tracking drisruption is best with fast target)? Vexor is an awesome, awesome ship, although I think the bandwidth was nerfed recently. So to be ranked #4 in my list is still in the same tier as the other ubar cruisers. I've lost raxes to vexors and killed a rapier with one using 3x ogre IIs, 4x neutron blaster IIs and a web. As a pirate where cost effectiveness is key, I've gotten to fly with excellent rupture and arbitrator pilots. I can say that the rupture beats the thorax most of the time, where the arbi beats the thorax only if flown and setup well. I've only seen effective tanked arbitrators, never seen a nano one. If you're going against a turret ship, the tracking disruptor bonus can be ideal. The evil arbi setup would be a nice tank in lows including 800 plate, the pvp holy triumvirate in the mids (mwd, disruptor, web) + cap injector and some nos/neuts, 1/2 lasers in the highs and primarily drone damage.
Garmon Genos Occidere Boner Bandits	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:28:00 - [30] Edited by: Garmon on 05/04/2008 16:33:45 Originally by: Raivi Edited by: Raivi on 05/04/2008 16:26:04 Originally by: Helios Hyperion I love them because when I'm in my Huginn or Vaga people always run away, but when you're in a underestimated Rupture or Thorax you can get plenty of willing fights. That pretty much sums it up, you get a lot more fights when your in a t1 cruiser, and also they are quite easy to sustain The ruptire is an awesome ship if you can t2 fit it 4x 220mm II 1 small nos 1 small neut mwd, web, scram 1600, 1 dc II, 1 eanm II, 2 gyro II ecm drones So far 7 Vaga 3 Deimos 1 Cerberus 1 Eagle 1 Muninn 1 Ishtar 1 Pilgrim 1 Rapier 1 Huginn 1 Arazu Has died to it All because they never expects a t1 cruiser to do so much __________________________________ Garmonation - Rupture fun video

Pages: [1] 2 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.