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Phroneo	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:14:00 - [1] I was reading the thread about why people hate goons and read about both goons and bob having extreme philosophies. Could someone please tell me what these philosophies are? It seemed that people complain about BoB but I don't see specific reasons like I do with goons. -- It may be that the old astrologers had the truth exactly reversed, when they believed that the stars controlled the destinies of men. The time may come when men control the destinies of stars. ACC
Marcus TheMartin	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:17:00 - [2] GO BACK TO CAOD Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Alaskan3	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:21:00 - [3] OMG!
Quelque Chose	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:23:00 - [4] It's pretty funny actually. Near as I can tell by reading all the crap being spewed, BoB are stereotypical "pr0" gamers complete with the laughable elitism and ego inflation that comes with that territory; goons on the other hand are stereotypical pubescent net clowns who love to antagonize people who take the internet (in this case gaming) seriously. I would say it's like the cobra vs mongoose scenario but I think that would be giving all parties involved way too much credit, so instead I'll just describe it as a marriage made in videogame hell. Both groups are hardwired to yank eachothers' respective chain. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Zephyr Rengate	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin GO BACK TO CAOD
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.05 20:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Quelque Chose Edited by: Quelque Chose on 05/04/2008 18:46:30 It's pretty funny actually. Near as I can tell by reading all the crap being spewed, BoB are stereotypical "pr0" gamers complete with the laughable elitism and ego inflation that comes with that territory; goons on the other hand are stereotypical pubescent net clowns who love to antagonize people who take the internet (in this case gaming) seriously. I would say it's like the cobra vs mongoose scenario but I think that would be giving all parties involved way too much credit, so instead I'll just describe it as a marriage made in videogame hell. Both groups are hardwired to yank eachothers' respective chain. edit No, I know where I've seen this before: it's a rehash of jocks vs dorks from some bad 80s teen comedy with the exception that nobody will be getting laid over it. /thread
Souisa Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.05 20:43:00 - [7] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin GO BACK TO CAOD
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.04.05 22:57:00 - [8] BoB : Vee are elite, Vee are uber, Vee are better than you little girly man Goons : lol Chuck Norris lol Allah Akbar lol
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Quelque Chose edit No, I know where I've seen this before: it's a rehash of jocks vs dorks from some bad 80s teen comedy with the exception that nobody will be getting laid over it. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Quelque Chose	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:05:00 - [10] Originally by: Cipher7 BoB : Vee are elite, Vee are uber, Vee are better than you little girly man Goons : lol Chuck Norris lol Allah Akbar lol Actually, that's "We're better then you." That sig is some great self- ownage, it's kind of like Homer's "I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I am smart!" Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:09:00 - [11] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Cipher7 BoB : Vee are elite, Vee are uber, Vee are better than you little girly man Goons : lol Chuck Norris lol Allah Akbar lol Actually, that's "We're better then you." That sig is some great self- ownage, it's kind of like Homer's "I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I am smart!" Uhh... Heh heh... Self ownage, Quelque says. We need ninja editing here STAT! Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Quelque Chose	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Roy Batty68 Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Cipher7 BoB : Vee are elite, Vee are uber, Vee are better than you little girly man Goons : lol Chuck Norris lol Allah Akbar lol Actually, that's "We're better then you." That sig is some great self- ownage, it's kind of like Homer's "I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I am smart!" Uhh... Heh heh... Self ownage, Quelque says. We need ninja editing here STAT! No man, I'm talking about that BoB guy's sig... that's what it says on it, "Evolution: we're better then you." Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Quelque Chose No man, I'm talking about that BoB guy's sig... that's what it says on it, "Evolution: we're better then you." Doh! I evidently don't hang out in CAOD enough. Right. Back to my beer. runs away Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Quelque Chose	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Roy Batty68 Originally by: Quelque Chose No man, I'm talking about that BoB guy's sig... that's what it says on it, "Evolution: we're better then you." Doh! I evidently don't hang out in CAOD enough. Right. Back to my beer. runs away "It's all good dudeman." Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:27:00 - [15] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Cipher7 BoB : Vee are elite, Vee are uber, Vee are better than you little girly man Goons : lol Chuck Norris lol Allah Akbar lol Actually, that's "We're better then you." That sig is some great self- ownage, it's kind of like Homer's "I am so smart! I am so smart! S-M-R-T! I am smart!" Sir Molle is the worst in that regard. His local smack is just horrible.
Cikulisuy Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2008.04.06 13:59:00 - [16] bob: we own the game g00n: we hate bob, lets kill them bob: attack g00n g00n: /spits in BoB's face while calling them a ***** this out of all will remain, they have lived and have tossed; so much of the game will be gain, though the gold and the dice have been lost.
Brainless Bimbo	Posted - 2008.04.06 15:08:00 - [17] Philosophy... LOL ...... being a collective of griefing limp phalli (goons) or elitest limp phalli (bobs) does not a philosophy make, they come to EVE cos Iceland has this where bob and goons can get defined side by side but then all i've said is hearsay derived from the pages of the forum. ...... continues overleaf.
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.06 15:50:00 - [18] It's always interesting to hear what people's perceptions are from the outside. Like most things, people develop a rough monolithic caricature of these groups and try to stuff thousands of people into these generalizations. BoB are a lot more Goonie than people give use credit for, and Goons are a lot more serious and BoB-like than people assume. Most players on both sides are just your average gamer-types who log on for an unhealthy amount of time per week to play internet shooty-shooty and then log off and spend time with their families and friends. BoB does tend to be made up of high skill point players who have been around Eve for a long time. Many of our members have been leaders of other corporations and moved to BoB to not have to put up with the hassles of leadership anymore. A lot of the guys who were responsible for the "we're the best, f'u" attitude have left the Alliance, and left it a long time ago. Believe me, I'm not saying that there aren't dolts and asshats. BoB's a cross section of every single other group in the game, we just have more skillpoints per capita. BoB was one of the first groups to figure-out POS mechanics and how moon mining could make Alliances rich...so they got rich. Two of the key corps in BoB are communist, and were at a time when people would say, "being communist in Eve is impossible without cheating." They had a system, put it in place, and used people's skills in an efficient and cooperative way. BoB was one of the first Alliances who spent time to try to figure-out optimal ship set-ups and one of the best guys in the game at figuring-out optimal set-ups and getting the best out of ships is TWD, and is a long-time member of the Alliance. Goons come from the Something Awful forum community -- primarily. If you spend any time there, that will explain their philosophy. The name "goon" comes from that community. Goons at SA would go around "invading" new MMPOLGs and various forums and try to grief people, with the idea of making their gameplay experience as miserable as possible. This isn't a criticism, most Goons will gleefully embrace their heritage. Goons in Eve now have moved beyond that. Most Goons who have stuck with the game this long are pretty serious about it and put in the time and are trying to be very serious-business internet space ship guys. Goons right now are trying to deal with this very identity issue, as they feel the pressure from guys who just want to log on, suicide 10 frigates into a battleship gang and log off. And the guys who actually want to play the game and be successful at it. There are cultural differences between the two groups. But in the grand scheme of things, not that much is really different. Forums are more important to Goons (not surprising coming from SA). Skillpoints and optimization of assets are more important to BoB (not surprising seeing as they've been badly outnumbered for so long). Once you get past the rhetoric (and GAWD! there's a lot of rhetoric), there's really not much difference. We're all just MMO-gamers who have chosen this game as our primary hobby. --- "BNC/E are terrible poasters tbh." - Monto
Ralara D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.06 15:59:00 - [19] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia It's always interesting to hear what people's perceptions are from the outside. Like most things, people develop a rough monolithic caricature of these groups and try to stuff thousands of people into these generalizations. BoB are a lot more Goonie than people give use credit for, and Goons are a lot more serious and BoB-like than people assume. Most players on both sides are just your average gamer-types who log on for an unhealthy amount of time per week to play internet shooty-shooty and then log off and spend time with their families and friends. BoB does tend to be made up of high skill point players who have been around Eve for a long time. Many of our members have been leaders of other corporations and moved to BoB to not have to put up with the hassles of leadership anymore. A lot of the guys who were responsible for the "we're the best, f'u" attitude have left the Alliance, and left it a long time ago. Believe me, I'm not saying that there aren't dolts and asshats. BoB's a cross section of every single other group in the game, we just have more skillpoints per capita. BoB was one of the first groups to figure-out POS mechanics and how moon mining could make Alliances rich...so they got rich. Two of the key corps in BoB are communist, and were at a time when people would say, "being communist in Eve is impossible without cheating." They had a system, put it in place, and used people's skills in an efficient and cooperative way. BoB was one of the first Alliances who spent time to try to figure-out optimal ship set-ups and one of the best guys in the game at figuring-out optimal set-ups and getting the best out of ships is TWD, and is a long-time member of the Alliance. Goons come from the Something Awful forum community -- primarily. If you spend any time there, that will explain their philosophy. The name "goon" comes from that community. Goons at SA would go around "invading" new MMPOLGs and various forums and try to grief people, with the idea of making their gameplay experience as miserable as possible. This isn't a criticism, most Goons will gleefully embrace their heritage. Goons in Eve now have moved beyond that. Most Goons who have stuck with the game this long are pretty serious about it and put in the time and are trying to be very serious-business internet space ship guys. Goons right now are trying to deal with this very identity issue, as they feel the pressure from guys who just want to log on, suicide 10 frigates into a battleship gang and log off. And the guys who actually want to play the game and be successful at it. There are cultural differences between the two groups. But in the grand scheme of things, not that much is really different. Forums are more important to Goons (not surprising coming from SA). Skillpoints and optimization of assets are more important to BoB (not surprising seeing as they've been badly outnumbered for so long). Once you get past the rhetoric (and GAWD! there's a lot of rhetoric), there's really not much difference. We're all just MMO-gamers who have chosen this game as our primary hobby. Stands up and claps slowly, whilst others start to clap slowly at first, then it starts getting faster and faster... people start cheering and whistling -- Ralara / Ralarina
Exile Devaltos	Posted - 2008.04.06 16:11:00 - [20] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Lots of stuff. Nailed it. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by: Wrangler Thats odd, I always drink after dealing with you people..
Roxanna Kell FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.06 16:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia A very good post At the biggining i ahd no trouble with goons, even had very cool cahts with many of them, but than there was the Lady scarlet issues, and other racism and personal attacks to bob members. Making fun of of dead people is not ethetical, I am sure there are some bobs who have upset goons, not sure if any of those are real life related. All in all, Its been fun fighting them, and looking forward for more goons to get rich and afford good ships. Maybe one day local chatter would be prohibited from their leader, and there won't be so much real life hate over a game. Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Hannobaal Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.06 16:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia A lot of the guys who were responsible for the "we're the best, f'u" attitude have left the Alliance, and left it a long time ago. Believe me, I'm not saying that there aren't dolts and asshats. coughSir Mollecough
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2008.04.06 17:01:00 - [23] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 06/04/2008 17:02:23 Onchas is wrong, we are actually quite elitist. That's got nothign to do with having more skillpoints. Lots of us don't. It's because we actually are better. The fact some of you seem to assume that's an insult only serves to tell us how right we are your case. People here take themselves far too seriously sometimes. [center] Old blog
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2008.04.06 17:07:00 - [24] I've seen both from the inside, and yes, they're more similar to each other than the extremist rhetoric describes. But the rhetoric itself is just propaganda. I would have to say the major difference is the driving force. For Goons, they have an arch nemesis. For BoB its war. Each one has advantages and disadvantages in normal circumstances. But as the BNCE fellow stated, Goons have an identity issue to deal with. Their early image propaganda is pretty entrenched into their members who're likely to look back on it with fond nostalgia. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
ShadowAgony Leaves of Yggdrasil	Posted - 2008.04.06 17:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin GO BACK TO CAOD
Inconstant Moon	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:45:00 - [26] Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Onchas Erivvia dolts and asshats. coughSir Mollecough Really? When I knew him he was an allright guy. Proper serious player and all that. Much respect to Evol and BoB. -- CONCORD provides neither consequences nor safety.
Sokratesz	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:47:00 - [27] Why does it matter so very much? My eve philosophy probably changes every fifteen minutes or so. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it I refuse to read SHC
Hannobaal	Posted - 2008.04.06 19:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Inconstant Moon Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Onchas Erivvia dolts and asshats. coughSir Mollecough Really? When I knew him he was an allright guy. Proper serious player and all that. Much respect to Evol and BoB. You've obviously not seen his local smack or read very many of his CAOD posts then. It's the caricature exaggeration of the whole BoB "we're just better than you" arrogant dumbass "elitist" image.
An Anarchyyt	Posted - 2008.04.06 20:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Inconstant Moon Originally by: Hannobaal Originally by: Onchas Erivvia dolts and asshats. coughSir Mollecough Really? When I knew him he was an allright guy. Proper serious player and all that. Much respect to Evol and BoB. You've obviously not seen his local smack or read very many of his CAOD posts then. It's the caricature exaggeration of the whole BoB "we're just better than you" arrogant dumbass "elitist" image. If you spent every day repairing Air conditioners, you'd be pretty arrogant too. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

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