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Ris Dnalor Black Rebel Rifter Club 228	Posted - 2012.02.26 09:51:00 - [1] - Quote Give us those orbital bombardment ship blueprints and skillbooks now so we can be prepared to deliver! Save the Miners!
Gerrick Palivorn Caldari Provisions Caldari State 148	Posted - 2012.02.26 10:49:00 - [2] - Quote I thought that the orbital bombardment ships were going to be sieged dreads. And if thats the case I'd get one of those if I were you.
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 295	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:04:00 - [3] - Quote I thought...IF....you'd better... Do you play poker? Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 84	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:11:00 - [4] - Quote Gerrick Palivorn wrote: I thought that the orbital bombardment ships were going to be sieged dreads. And if thats the case I'd get one of those if I were you. Doesn't mean there won't be a new 'planetary bombardment' skill. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Degren Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 48	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:16:00 - [5] - Quote Does this mean there will actually be orbital bombardment?... Uhhh, nevermind. Guess I can't hold all the big alliance planets for ransom.
testobjekt Goonswarm Federation Human Resources Goonswarm Federation 92	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:19:00 - [6] - Quote Yes you will be able to kill them with impunity .... Guys be realistic, it looks cool in the trailers but THATS IT. There is noway in hell they will let us bomb them, because the avarege eveplayer would take incredible delight in bombing every last one of them unitl they quit the game. How does this sales pitch sound to you: Please play our console game, where you will die after a few seconds at the Hand of PC players who are untouchable for you and will just kill you again and again and again. Yeah right, not gonna happen. Another tidbit for you: The technic was already explained, there will be geolocated dust gameserver, who download the information from the eve-cluster before the start of the game and report the result back to the Cluster once the match has concluded
Raiz Nhell DEEP CORPS 25	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:26:00 - [7] - Quote Yeah... 1400mm shells raining from orbit seems a bit unfair... PI isn't about sucking resources it's about raining shrapnel... So yeah... Not going to happen... I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow... Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail
Degren Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 48	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:38:00 - [8] - Quote testobjekt wrote: Another tidbit for you: The technic was already explained, there will be geolocated dust gameserver, who download the information from the eve-cluster before the start of the game and report the result back to the Cluster once the match has concluded Oh good, ransom back on. Alliances: 30 bil up front and I will never attack your planets. Not a terribly large cost considering the number of planets! 200 bil and I won't even buy the game. Harrrr
TheBreadMuncher Boxxed Up Industries 9	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:41:00 - [9] - Quote A good idea would be a pre-emptive bombardment before the actual battle started. Fortifications and emplacements which the mercs could use being destroyed before the battle, much like in the first world war. Strength of the emplacement VS Calibre of the gun could decide how much damage is done. Something like that, anyway.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 84	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:44:00 - [10] - Quote Raiz Nhell wrote: Yeah... 1400mm shells raining from orbit seems a bit unfair... PI isn't about sucking resources it's about raining shrapnel... So yeah... Not going to happen... Well, considering Dust ops will take place on contested planets, it kinda makes sense for both the attackers and defenders to gain air(space) superiority to prevent their dust bunnies from getting glassed, therefore only once any side actually has cleared the field will any meaningfull bombardment take place. Then there is the issue that there is some VERY expensive infrastructure (eg, space elevator) down there that will be destroyed if they do just nuke it, oh and the dust bunnies can shoot back. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Xervish Krin Shiva Furnace 5	Posted - 2012.02.26 12:01:00 - [11] - Quote From what's in Templar One, it looks like ships are pretty vulnerable to planetside launchers and other ships while in a position for orbital bombardment. So hopefully that'll translate into game mechanics.
Danfen Fenix Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.02.26 12:02:00 - [12] - Quote testobjekt wrote: Yes you will be able to kill them with impunity .... Guys be realistic, it looks cool in the trailers but THATS IT. There is noway in hell they will let us bomb them, because the avarege eveplayer would take incredible delight in bombing every last one of them unitl they quit the game. How does this sales pitch sound to you: Please play our console game, where you will die after a few seconds at the Hand of PC players who are untouchable for you and will just kill you again and again and again. Yeah right, not gonna happen. Another tidbit for you: The technic was already explained, there will be geolocated dust gameserver, who download the information from the eve-cluster before the start of the game and report the result back to the Cluster once the match has concluded Of course, despite the fact that CCP have stated that it will be possible...possibly only in the form of dread's with a special module (and speculated to require the dread to be in siege mode )
Weiland Taur Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden 26	Posted - 2012.02.26 12:42:00 - [13] - Quote I've long suspected that the removal of the titan AOD was in fact a preemptive move to make sure that PL or any other Titan heavy alliance did not spend it's free time glassing Dust players off of planets like fumigators removing roach infestations.
Abyss Azizora Amarrian Warfactory 4	Posted - 2012.02.26 13:32:00 - [14] - Quote This was covered somewhere already, I don't have a source atm, but as I recall it worked like this... Dreads can do orbital bombardments in real-time on Dust players, however it requires a DUST commander to signify where a dread can bombard. the planet. Basically it's a player fired version of the ion-cannon in RTS games. Similarly, DUST players can fire back at eve players through ground based installments that are captured. So the pain goes both ways. That's all I know, and as I recall, none of that was set in stone yet. (Beyond the basics) (This is all very easy to implement, Dread fires at planet -> Eve server sends fire request to DUST server -> Dust commander's targeted location has a beam of death rain down from above. And vice versa)
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 2898	Posted - 2012.02.26 13:48:00 - [15] - Quote Console players are sub-human swine, why should they get anything? ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Sri Nova Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2012.02.26 15:08:00 - [16] - Quote Im all for orbital bombardment skill books and a planetary bombing ship . +1 for new eve profession orbital bombardier Orbital Bombardier I orbit planets spamming dust bunnies for coordinates . I unleash holy hell upon unsuspecting hordes. I get my jollies off griefing console maggots .
Written Word Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 221	Posted - 2012.02.26 15:35:00 - [17] - Quote Disappointment is the only product CCP sells
Ptraci StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound. 347	Posted - 2012.02.26 16:28:00 - [18] - Quote testobjekt wrote: Yes you will be able to kill them with impunity .... Guys be realistic, it looks cool in the trailers but THATS IT. There is noway in hell they will let us bomb them, because the avarege eveplayer would take incredible delight in bombing every last one of them unitl they quit the game. How does this sales pitch sound to you: Please play our console game, where you will die after a few seconds at the Hand of PC players who are untouchable for you and will just kill you again and again and again. Yeah right, not gonna happen. Another tidbit for you: The technic was already explained, there will be geolocated dust gameserver, who download the information from the eve-cluster before the start of the game and report the result back to the Cluster once the match has concluded Orbital bombardment doesn't have to insta-kill everyone. Think creatively. It could slow down the respawn rate of the enemy, or limit weapons/vehicles to certain classes only, etc, while the bombardment is in effect. That way you'd have dreads sieging planets for these beneficial effects, and of course dreads being hot-dropped while in seige mode...
Valei Khurelem 384	Posted - 2012.02.26 16:37:00 - [19] - Quote If Dust releases for PS3 only it is our duty to remind Dust players this is a cold harsh universe, therefore I propose a special coalition that will go around indiscriminately orbital bombing all Dust players to kingdom come. Finally! High Sec and 0.0 players will work together and agree on something! Death to PS3 players! "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Dasola Rookies Empire Rookie Empire 10	Posted - 2012.02.26 16:39:00 - [20] - Quote Come on that cannon food only expects to die ALOT. More seriously Hilmar himself did show that on fanfest couple years ago: "When diplomacy fails theres always...... nuke from orbit option". Maybe ccp should think why planets would be worth fighting for on that scale? Currently there no such resource on planets surfaces. [Insert something funny or smart here]

Akrasjel Lanate Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 609	Posted - 2012.02.26 16:48:00 - [21] - Quote The orbital bombardment will be only be able to done when dust players call it you wont be able to do it whenever you want.
Ris Dnalor Black Rebel Rifter Club 231	Posted - 2012.02.26 19:04:00 - [22] - Quote Akrasjel Lanate wrote: The orbital bombardment will be only be able to done when dust players call it you wont be able to do it whenever you want. and if two dust sides are fighting, you think either side will frequently refuse an offer of assistance from orbit? Save the Miners!
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 3288	Posted - 2012.02.26 19:10:00 - [23] - Quote testobjekt wrote: Yes you will be able to kill them with impunity .... Guys be realistic, it looks cool in the trailers but THATS IT. There is noway in hell they will let us bomb them, because the avarege eveplayer would take incredible delight in bombing every last one of them unitl they quit the game. How does this sales pitch sound to you: Please play our console game, where you will die after a few seconds at the Hand of PC players who are untouchable for you and will just kill you again and again and again. Yeah right, not gonna happen. Another tidbit for you: The technic was already explained, there will be geolocated dust gameserver, who download the information from the eve-cluster before the start of the game and report the result back to the Cluster once the match has concluded Ahem the ground commander has enough war points for a strike. He palces the marker down consuming warpoints. This marker is lockable from orbit where via seiged dread cna then rain it down. You are the kill streak bonus. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Serene Repose Perkone Caldari State 300	Posted - 2012.02.26 19:13:00 - [24] - Quote Only way to disappoint a Dust player is to not stock the fridge with Mountain Dew and Doritos....or is that Cheetos? (Not the crunchy, I hope.) Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 85	Posted - 2012.02.26 19:21:00 - [25] - Quote Ris Dnalor wrote: Akrasjel Lanate wrote: The orbital bombardment will be only be able to done when dust players call it you wont be able to do it whenever you want. and if two dust sides are fighting, you think either side will frequently refuse an offer of assistance from orbit? No, but the space side forces will need to have control in order to be able to do any meaningful damage, unless they want to lose a bunch of dreads as a result. That being said I hope that EVE players can bombard planets with out specific orders from below, it does make sense that they Dust players can request an orbital strike, and that if a Dust player designates a target, the accuracy of said srtike is increased. But maybe somone just wants to blow stuff up without bringing in the mercs, or one side realises that they are losing and chooses a scorched earth policy instead of a counter attack. Since this is EVE they should be allowed to do that. There is also the issue that Dust mercs can shoot back (highlighted the important bit) or even shoot first, which should prevent indiscriminate ~~trolling~~ carpet bombing of dust players. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Yoma Karima Kuloldas 7	Posted - 2012.02.26 19:34:00 - [26] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: If Dust releases for PS3 only it is our duty to remind Dust players this is a cold harsh universe, therefore I propose a special coalition that will go around indiscriminately orbital bombing all Dust players to kingdom come. Finally! High Sec and 0.0 players will work together and agree on something! Death to PS3 players and console exclusives! Once again i see another Bunny hater. you need co-op between Eve pilots and Dust commanders to even bomb the plants in question this has been stated repeatedly in every Dust forum and you Bunny Haters still use the same call to arms. That said why does it mater if it's a PS3 exclusive?please explain? Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 85	Posted - 2012.02.26 20:08:00 - [27] - Quote Yoma Karima wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: If Dust releases for PS3 only it is our duty to remind Dust players this is a cold harsh universe, therefore I propose a special coalition that will go around indiscriminately orbital bombing all Dust players to kingdom come. Finally! High Sec and 0.0 players will work together and agree on something! Death to PS3 players and console exclusives! Once again i see another Bunny hater. you need co-op between Eve pilots and Dust commanders to even bomb the plants in question this has been stated repeatedly in every Dust forum and you Bunny Haters still use the same call to arms. That said why does it mater if it's a PS3 exclusive?please explain? Its like a spoilt child whose younger sibling got a new toy but not them, they'll kick and scream and do everything they can to try and break it, until eventually they get bored and try some new way to get attention. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Danfen Fenix Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance 11	Posted - 2012.02.27 08:01:00 - [28] - Quote Grey Azorria wrote: [quote=Yoma Karima] Its like a spoilt child whose younger sibling got a new toy but not them, they'll kick and scream and do everything they can to try and break it, until eventually they get bored and try some new way to get attention. In other words, what they claim console players to be and what they're trying to 'keep out of' EVE
Grideris Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition 156	Posted - 2012.02.27 08:44:00 - [29] - Quote As others have said, it's not just going to be open season shooting at DUST players on the ground. You're going to need to be called in and they're going to be shooting back. Grideris wrote: You know what I'm calling? I'm calling EVE players lining up to shoot at the guys on the ground, laughing all the while thinking of the tears they will cause, and then getting the shock of their life when they find themselves floating in their pods or waking up in a station because the planets saw fit to rage against the heavens and strike back with a fury that made the stars themselves seem feeble in comparison. And you know what? I'll be smiling the whole time as I see conflict everywhere between the two, in an eternal struggle between those that roam the heavens and those that walk the earth. http://www.dust514.org - *the* unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
Vetrox Satria Canadian Forces Corp 9	Posted - 2012.02.27 18:19:00 - [30] - Quote I wonder if Dust will alow me to take a squad out into zero G space and plant nukes onto the side of orbital ships....that would certainly make life interesting.



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