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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2008.04.07 23:27:00 -
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All insurance needs to be removed across the board. Period.
Bellum Eternus
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Turin
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Posted - 2008.04.07 23:41:00 -
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Insurance is fine. There is no reason to change anything OTHER than having no payout if concord kills your ship. Thats the only change that needs be made. The rest of it is fine. All you dillusional kiddies out there who think it would stop the big fleets of the rich alliance are less than realistic. ( this is a nice way of saying your dumb )
Basically your idea is a really really bad one.
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.04.07 23:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Bellum Eternus
All insurance needs to be removed across the board. Period.
Not necessarily. I could see keeping insurance -maybe- for t1 cruisers and definitely t1 frigs, if for no other reason to stop the noobs from getting totally ****** over. By the time you're in a battleship, you should be able to support it.
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ry ry
StateCorp
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.08 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 08/04/2008 11:46:42
Originally by: Anubis Xian
Removing insurance can only be a good thing.
If losing your ship hurts so bad you needed insurance to hack it, you should be flying something else anyway.
thats just silly. you're either incredibly rich, fly crap ships, or rarely fly in fleet ops.
a run of being primaried (your character's name starts with an A, so it's not outside the realms of possibility) will quickly burn a hole in most people's wallet. What do you do when you're down to your last couple of hundred mil? start turning up in progressively less useful ships? stop turning up for fleetops altogether, until you've assembled another billion to burn?
and if you're not flying fleet BS, insurance doesn't even come into the equation, since the insurance values on t2 ships are so pitiful they hardly cover the cost of fittings.
without these payouts, only the richest space-holding alliances would get to pvp constantly, and that would be rubbish. insurance keeps the gears of war turning.
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ry ry
StateCorp
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.08 11:49:00 -
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although it's worth pointing out i've never owned more than 500mil liquid isk at any one time, so i should probably only ever fly punishers or something in the first place, lest i fail to hack it.
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Mister Xerox
A Multitude of Blues
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Posted - 2008.04.08 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: General Coochie
I can agree to not let ppl killed by concord get their insurance though.
This is the only agreeable part to the entire post:
CONCORD involved = Zero insurance, all modules destroyed, no wreck.
If you think the inclusion of CONCORD on the kill (saw this the other day when a neutral flagged hostile, corp member fired at it... got BBQd by CONCORD) then you can petition it.
Otherwise, don't change insurance as it stands now except, perhaps, to use a weighted market average to set the insurance value on T2 ships (discarding stupidly high market orders).
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Kerfira
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.08 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 08/04/2008 12:28:13
The worst thing about insurance being as it is (ie. way higher than the price of a new T1 ship), is that it takes a lot of 'Sense of Accomplishment' out of the game.
These days, battleships are throw-away ships.... It's not something people are proud of flying, nor something others respect you for doing (and risking).
If insurance were restricted/removed, it would mean more variety in which ships are used.
Earning the money to pay for a Battleship (after receiving insurance from the last one) is a piece of cake today. If a battleship cost the full price, more people would be flying cruisers/battlecruisers instead, thus giving us a more varied game.
It'd also reintroduce the 'adrenaline rush' of taking something valuable into combat and risking loosing it.
Second thing to consider is that insurance was introduced into the game when ISK was FAR harder to come by. These days, getting ISK is easy....
So, what I think should be done is:
1. Remove insurance for CONCORD kills
2. Halve insurance payout in low-sec. No insurance payout in 0.0.
3. Make other T1 insurance payouts the price of replacement ships, not way above as today.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.04.08 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Exile Devaltos
Do it. This isn't a troll, but a logical observation.
Funny, I could have sworn it was an arbitrary request with no supporting argument at all.
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