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Surfin's PlunderBunny GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.08 07:53:00 - [1] Anyone else think this is fuxed up? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
Surfin's PlunderBunny	Posted - 2008.04.08 07:53:00 - [2] Anyone else think this is fuxed up? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
Kirjava	Posted - 2008.04.08 08:08:00 - [3] Yes, quite fuxored up on many levels. All meanings of the word intened.... polygamists.... Incidentaly, did you change your avatar or it just me?.... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2008.04.08 08:49:00 - [4] One wife's incessant nagging is enough for most men. /ducks Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Erotic Irony	Posted - 2008.04.08 09:42:00 - [5] Edited by: Erotic Irony on 08/04/2008 09:42:22 proof that god hates women and children :3 ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Akita T	Posted - 2008.04.08 09:46:00 - [6] I'm probably becoming excessively jaded, but in the end, what bussiness has the state in how a group of people that is almost completely self-sufficient (and with minimal exterior contact) chooses to handle their day-to-day life ? It's not like every human life is precious... heck, it's quite the opposite, there's so many humans that I wouldn't even mourn if four out of five would die tomorrow, as long as it's not somebody I care for (for those, I'd mourn). 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.08 10:13:00 - [7] Originally by: Akita T I'm probably becoming excessively jaded, but in the end, what bussiness has the state in how a group of people that is almost completely self-sufficient (and with minimal exterior contact) chooses to handle their day-to-day life ? It's not like every human life is precious... heck, it's quite the opposite, there's so many humans that I wouldn't even mourn if four out of five would die tomorrow, as long as it's not somebody I care for (for those, I'd mourn). 16 year old calls for help somehow saying shes married to a 50 year old--sounds like criminal neglect if you ignore it If you believe in the state as a something more potent than a guarantor of the most basic securities, then they're obligated to protect those shepherded and infantilized women and children--alternatively you could say these people were being politically socialized in a way that was neither in the material interests of society (no education, no job, no consequential productivity) nor were they equipped to live and participate in secular society. Besides, people who are included into the mass society are easier to manage and put under surveillance. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Ch Tang Ch Tang Corp	Posted - 2008.04.08 10:26:00 - [8] What's the penalty for two wives? Two Mother-in-Laws.
Brother Cloudedview Improbable Combat Ship Project	Posted - 2008.04.08 11:43:00 - [9] Edited by: Brother Cloudedview on 08/04/2008 11:43:35 Originally by: Akita T I'm probably becoming excessively jaded, but in the end, what bussiness has the state in how a group of people that is almost completely self-sufficient (and with minimal exterior contact) chooses to handle their day-to-day life ? It's not like every human life is precious... heck, it's quite the opposite, there's so many humans that I wouldn't even mourn if four out of five would die tomorrow, as long as it's not somebody I care for (for those, I'd mourn). 1) might be true as long as there's no 16 year calling the police because she has to do a 50yr old guy...(well, as long as this s true, and the police didnt make that up) 2) ever heard about dunbar's number or the "monkeysphere" ? google it, sounds as if you could get something out of reading it.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.08 18:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Akita T I'm probably becoming excessively jaded, but in the end, what bussiness has the state in how a group of people that is almost completely self-sufficient (and with minimal exterior contact) chooses to handle their day-to-day life ? It's not like every human life is precious... heck, it's quite the opposite, there's so many humans that I wouldn't even mourn if four out of five would die tomorrow, as long as it's not somebody I care for (for those, I'd mourn). Well, the live and let live philosophy only extends so far. Once they start banging kids and committing acts of incest, their religious rights are revoked in favour of law. You read about that leader of their little cult, Warren Jeffs? The one that got hauled away for banging 14 year olds? I bet you any money their entire population is guilty of similar crimes, and the victims are too brainwashed to ever admit it.

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.04.08 20:42:00 - [11] On the other hand, some other countries have an age of consent as low as 14 years, and some even allow (legally) marriage with the parent's permission at an age of 12. Heck, some other countries don't even HAVE an "age of consent" at all (since sex out of wedlock is forbidden), as for age of marriage with parent's permission... that only depends on the parents. Just playing devil's advocate here. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Sharupak Knights Of the Black Sun Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.04.08 20:51:00 - [12] Gonna have to agree with Akita on this one. One girl is abused and all 401 kids of the entire sect get yanked? Do I think they are crazy stupid people? Yes. But how are they any different from all the crazy stupid people living by majority morality that abuse others and are abused themselves? Those 401 kids are going to foster care which for most of those kids is either no change at all or worse! The government ****s up their own checkbook and cant manage the abuses in its own child welfare programs. Them makeing any actions to polygamists is like a serial killer killing murderers because killing is wrong. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Tarquin Tarquinius Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:00:00 - [13] I don't have a problem with polygamy.....as long as its between consenting adults. This girl was neither consenting nor an adult. I'm just surprised that the state allowed them to set up here in the first place. Texas tends to be strict about these kinds of social deviations. ------ Any factual errors or mistakes in spelling and grammar should be attributed solely to me and not my nation of origin.
Surfin's PlunderBunny GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:21:00 - [14] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 08/04/2008 21:23:25 Originally by: Kirjava Incidentaly, did you change your avatar or it just me?.... You know... I did it over 6 months ago and it just changed this week here! Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius I don't have a problem with polygamy.....as long as its between consenting adults. This girl was neither consenting nor an adult. I'm just surprised that the state allowed them to set up here in the first place. Texas tends to be strict about these kinds of social deviations. Maybe Texas is swinging left? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:26:00 - [15] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 08/04/2008 23:25:56 ITT: People defending kiddy*****. EVE RELATED CONTENT**
Keorythe Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.04.09 02:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Akita T I'm probably becoming excessively jaded, but in the end, what bussiness has the state in how a group of people that is almost completely self-sufficient (and with minimal exterior contact) chooses to handle their day-to-day life ? The business is of the state. The state (this can mean an actual state or the entire country) sets down laws which determine what is defined as child abuse and what isn't. These are the same laws that outlawed polygamy in western nations despite is being legal and several others (the laws reguarding legal polygamy are strict ). Real life example. In the US a parent has the right to spank their child if they choose that line of punishment. However, the state has to lay down guidelines as to what is discipline and what is child abuse. A hurt rear end and/or light bruising is perfectly fine and acceptable by the state. Severe bruising, lacerations, broken bones, etc show a parent out of control and is defined as child abuse. Sexual abuse is defined by the "age of consent" and is the first factor that comes into play. The age of consent varies through most countries and US states. This is the law that was being broken by the polygamists. Girls under the age of consent were being coerced into marriages with men above that age. Even if someone is trying to argue that the marriage was 100% consentual the law states that the child cannot make that kind of decision. In closed communities like theirs it is very easy to teach an illegal practices since the children and even the parents aren't allowed outside contact or education. The law is very clear on this issue. However, CPS investigators have limited authority on the issue and need some "reason to believe" that child abuse is occurring before they can obtain a court order to enter compounds like they had. Remember that an underage "wife" could be coerced to tell the CPS agent that she is his daughter or niece instead of the perpetrators wife. Even with testimony which was finally obtained there is the issue of "what do we do with them?" That probably put a kink in their plans and delayed everything for a long time. In most cases the child is put in home with a relative. No chance here. Next option is to put them with some sort of temporary caregiver such as a foster parent. 400+ children? Cancel that idea. I'm still interested in where they are housing these kids and who is supervising them. The laws and policies were made years ago and are pretty specific. They need to be specific to help eliminate confusion when dealing with different scenarios.
Mr Friendly	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:20:00 - [17] heh, in my province, another polygamist colony called "Bountiful" has been targeted by our local lawmakers... Love the name, tbh. I'm not sure what role gov't has in regulating sex lives, but meh. At least the name is catchy Originally by: Mangala Solaris EVE really doesnt have set goals, its a freeform sandbox - yes a sandbox with kids that occasionally take a dump in it, but a sandbox never the less.
Surfin's PlunderBunny	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Mr Friendly heh, in my province, another polygamist colony called "Bountiful" has been targeted by our local lawmakers... Love the name, tbh. I'm not sure what role gov't has in regulating sex lives, but meh. At least the name is catchy What's the bounty on it? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
Kirjava	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Mr Friendly heh, in my province, another polygamist colony called "Bountiful" has been targeted by our local lawmakers... Love the name, tbh. I'm not sure what role gov't has in regulating sex lives, but meh. At least the name is catchy What's the bounty on it? 800 of these Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Surfin's PlunderBunny	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:39:00 - [20] And how do I get 800 of these? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!



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