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SleepingBuddah
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.08 12:20:00 -
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Can anyone shed some light at the following situation:
player A is an outlaw but not under Criminal Flag
player A is attacked by players X,Y,Z
player A fires back at player X
player A is remote repped by player B (B is not an outlaw!)
now who can shoot at player B without having Criminal Flag?
only player X? or X,Y,Z?
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.04.08 12:54:00 -
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all who attacked player A can shoot B because he is helping him
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Gartel Reiman on 08/04/2008 13:04:41
Also, I believe that if you rep an outlaw, you will become an outlaw (for 15 minutes from last remote assistance action) as well. I know that if you rep someone with a GCD you get one yourself, and if you rep someone in a war you become flashy red to their wartargets, so it would be consistent for this to be the case. Of course, CCP and consistency don't always go hand in hand, but we can hope... 
Edit: yes, if you aid an outlaw you are flagged to everyone, as per the rather comprehensive Knowledge Base article.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Gartel Reiman
Also, I believe that if you rep an outlaw, you will become an outlaw (for 15 minutes from last remote assistance action) as well. I know that if you rep someone with a GCD you get one yourself, and if you rep someone in a war you become flashy red to their wartargets, so it would be consistent for this to be the case. Of course, CCP and consistency don't always go hand in hand, but we can hope...
i think its all correct what you said :)
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Wild Rho
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:11:00 -
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An easy way to think about it is if you remote repair someone you basically "inherit" their flags (criminal, war targets etc).
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SleepingBuddah
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 08/04/2008 13:14:39
Originally by: Riho
all who attacked player A can shoot B because he is helping him
now consider the following situation:
A and B are not outlaws and not shooting anyone
X,Y,Z attacked A, they get Criminal Flag and started blinking red
A and B are not blinking red in overviews of X,Y,Z, because they sit still.
now B started remote repping A
according to your words B should start blink red in overviews of X,Y,Z, but A still not blinking. This is weird, don't you think?
Edit: OK, thanks for link to KB, now it is clear...
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Kim kitori
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.08 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kim kitori on 08/04/2008 14:23:56
Originally by: SleepingBuddah
Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 08/04/2008 13:14:39
Originally by: Riho
all who attacked player A can shoot B because he is helping him
now consider the following situation:
A and B are not outlaws and not shooting anyone
X,Y,Z attacked A, they get Criminal Flag and started blinking red
A and B are not blinking red in overviews of X,Y,Z, because they sit still.
now B started remote repping A
according to your words B should start blink red in overviews of X,Y,Z, but A still not blinking. This is weird, don't you think?
Edit: OK, thanks for link to KB, now it is clear...
I dont think B will start blinking red to X,Y,Z until A starts shooting back.
If someone(A) is aggroed to you(C)(use hostile modules on you), and someone else(B) assists (A). (B) will be blinking red to you.
Hope it makes sense. :P
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SleepingBuddah
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gartel Reiman
Edit: yes, if you aid an outlaw you are flagged to everyone, as per the rather comprehensive Knowledge Base article.
Knowledgebase contains untrue information. I have just checked this:
Attacking an outlaw who is a member of a player corporation
Player A attacks Player B who has security status of -5.0 or lower = Player A gets aggression flagged to Player B's corporation.
And it did not work. I (player A) attacked outlaw (player B) who was a member of player corporation and received only personal agression. Another member of his corporation attacked me and received global aggro.
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