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Umamasyean Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.04.08 17:22:00 - [1] Does it increase the chance of making the wreck disappear (either with or without loot)? Or does it increase the chance of loot when the wreck disappears?
Ki Anna Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.04.08 17:27:00 - [2] Originally by: Umamasyean Does it increase the chance of making the wreck disappear (either with or without loot)? Yes Originally by: Umamasyean Or does it increase the chance of loot when the wreck disappears? No Your first guess was right. Training the Salavage skill will decrease the chance that you need to scan again, by increasing the chance that you will get the salavage, if there is any, available in the wreck. It will not have any effect on what, if anything, is found in the wreck.
Pan Dora Bears Inc Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 17:34:00 - [3] After a salvager cycle you get a 'chance roll' If you susced you get whatever there is in the wreck and it disaper. If you fail you get nothing in this atempt but can try again. Note:you need salvaging III(or that is IV?) for tech II ship's salvage and Salvaging V for capital ship's salvage. Pan
Tchell Dahhn Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.08 17:57:00 - [4] Originally by: Pan Dora After a salvager cycle you get a 'chance roll' That's "Old School" thinking, right there. Reminds me of my bumper sticker. "Jesus Saves ... and takes Half Damage." Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!
Kneebone School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.08 17:59:00 - [5] Edited by: Kneebone on 08/04/2008 17:59:52 3 for Named/Tech II and 5 for Caps. Slapping a Salvaging Rig or two on a dedicated salvaging vessel will cut your salvage time even more. Fit some small tractor beams and have fun. I use a 5/3 split on a destroyer with 5 salvagers and 3 tractor beams. What you actually get from the wreck is determined as soon as you blow it up, doesn't matter how long it takes to salvage it.
Ralara D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.08 19:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Umamasyean Does it increase the chance of making the wreck disappear (either with or without loot)? Or does it increase the chance of loot when the wreck disappears? It increases the chance of getting a successful salvage cycle, assuming that there's salvage to be taken. It does not affect the amount of salvage that's there nor the chance for salvage to be there. Basically, over time, if you have salvage lvl 4 (rather than lvl 1 or 2) you will salvage stuff QUICKER but not MORE. If that makes sense. -- Ralara / Ralarina
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:14:00 - [7] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Pan Dora After a salvager cycle you get a 'chance roll' That's "Old School" thinking, right there. Reminds me of my bumper sticker. "Jesus Saves ... and takes Half Damage." It's "Jesus saves... the rest of the party takes full damage." Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:05:00 - [8] Originally by: F'nog It's "Jesus saves... the rest of the party takes full damage." I remember that, however my bumper sticker says different. Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!
Jimmy Hoffa Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.04.10 21:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: F'nog It's "Jesus saves... the rest of the party takes full damage." I remember that, however my bumper sticker says different. I believe it is 'Jesus saves! He passes to Gretzky... he shoots, he scores!'
Gerry TheViking Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.11 14:01:00 - [10] Edited by: Gerry TheViking on 11/04/2008 14:01:13 From my experience I can tell you that a higher level will allow you to salvage bigger ships and the command-ships of the rats. I'm not sure if it increases the possibility find find something to slavage in the wrecks. Sometimes I have up to ten wrecks without something to salvage and sometimes I find something in 3 out of 3
Bad Sastard	Posted - 2008.04.11 18:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Gerry TheViking Edited by: Gerry TheViking on 11/04/2008 14:01:13 From my experience I can tell you that a higher level will allow you to salvage bigger ships and the command-ships of the rats. I'm not sure if it increases the possibility find find something to slavage in the wrecks. Sometimes I have up to ten wrecks without something to salvage and sometimes I find something in 3 out of 3 I am fairly certain that the salvage items and #'s are determined when the wreck is spawned, and the salvaging skill just speeds up the process of getting the goodies that are in the wreck.
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.11 23:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Bad Sastard Originally by: Gerry TheViking Edited by: Gerry TheViking on 11/04/2008 14:01:13 From my experience I can tell you that a higher level will allow you to salvage bigger ships and the command-ships of the rats. I'm not sure if it increases the possibility find find something to slavage in the wrecks. Sometimes I have up to ten wrecks without something to salvage and sometimes I find something in 3 out of 3 I am fairly certain that the salvage items and #'s are determined when the wreck is spawned, and the salvaging skill just speeds up the process of getting the goodies that are in the wreck. ^^ -- Ralara / Ralarina
Emroth Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.04.11 23:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Pan Dora After a salvager cycle you get a 'chance roll' That's "Old School" thinking, right there. Reminds me of my bumper sticker. "Jesus Saves ... and takes Half Damage." I -never- laugh in real life out of jokes on forums, but that one made me laugh! Drones... drones...drones!
JafoPBCFR	Posted - 2008.04.12 01:57:00 - [14] If you use more then One salvage rig on a wreak. Does it go Quicker or is it pretty much overkill?
Baka Lakadaka Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.12 12:06:00 - [15] Originally by: JafoPBCFR If you use more then One salvage rig on a wreak. Does it go Quicker or is it pretty much overkill? Statistically it's better to put one salvager on each wreck, unless you don't have enough wrecks to keep all of your salvagers busy. The logic behind this is: If you put more than one salvager on a wreck, you're guaranteeing at least one will fail. If you have 2 wrecks and 2 salvagers, it's best to put one on each, this way both MAY complete on the first cycle. So over a statistically significant time, sometimes you'll get a perfect salvage e.g. occasionally both salvagers get a positive result on the first cycle. If you put both on one wreck you will never ever salvage 2 wrecks on the first cycle. Of course, if you've got more salvagers than wrecks, by all means double or triple up.
JafoPBCFR	Posted - 2008.04.12 16:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Baka Lakadaka Originally by: JafoPBCFR If you use more then One salvage rig on a wreak. Does it go Quicker or is it pretty much overkill? Statistically it's better to put one salvager on each wreck, unless you don't have enough wrecks to keep all of your salvagers busy. The logic behind this is: If you put more than one salvager on a wreck, you're guaranteeing at least one will fail. If you have 2 wrecks and 2 salvagers, it's best to put one on each, this way both MAY complete on the first cycle. So over a statistically significant time, sometimes you'll get a perfect salvage e.g. occasionally both salvagers get a positive result on the first cycle. If you put both on one wreck you will never ever salvage 2 wrecks on the first cycle. Of course, if you've got more salvagers than wrecks, by all means double or triple up. ok... So yes but No and maybe?
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.12 16:43:00 - [17] Edited by: Tchell Dahhn on 12/04/2008 16:43:46 Originally by: JafoPBCFR ok... So yes but No and maybe? I think he might have misread your question, and answered based upon the Salvager I module, rather than the Salvage Tackle I rigs. You can use multiple Salvage Tackle I rigs, and yes, they give you an additional bonus for each one you have installed. Personally, I have three on my Executioner, making it one of the most expensive small frigates in the game. Of course, couple it with the two Salvager I modules and a nice Overdrive/Nano/Cap Battery/AB setup, and you've also got - dare I say it? - the BEST Salvaging Ship in the game. Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Spaceways	Posted - 2008.04.12 22:01:00 - [18] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Personally, I have three on my Executioner, making it one of the most expensive small frigates in the game. Of course, couple it with the two Salvager I modules and a nice Overdrive/Nano/Cap Battery/AB setup, and you've also got - dare I say it? - the BEST Salvaging Ship in the game. You have three now? If I was going to put three salvage tackles on my Executioner (you know I use the same setup now, except I use best named modules) I think I'd just go ahead and train for a T2 executioner and put the three rigs on that.
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.13 03:40:00 - [19] Originally by: Joe Starbreaker You have three now? If I was going to put three salvage tackles on my Executioner (you know I use the same setup now, except I use best named modules) I think I'd just go ahead and train for a T2 executioner and put the three rigs on that. I was considering a nice Inty, however, the extra price doesn't really make 'money sense' to me... ...especially when I've been able to net me enough salvage to build the rigs I wanted - saving me a couple of mil each in the process. I have a couple of duplicate Ex's, using T1 gear, for those times when I feel I might be 'in danger' of losing her to a sad panda... ...or if I feel like salvaging while the mission is still going on, and I'd rather not have to pay as close attention. Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!
Baka Lakadaka Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.13 04:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Edited by: Tchell Dahhn on 12/04/2008 16:43:46 Originally by: JafoPBCFR ok... So yes but No and maybe? I think he might have misread your question, and answered based upon the Salvager I module, rather than the Salvage Tackle I rigs. You can use multiple Salvage Tackle I rigs, and yes, they give you an additional bonus for each one you have installed. Personally, I have three on my Executioner, making it one of the most expensive small frigates in the game. Of course, couple it with the two Salvager I modules and a nice Overdrive/Nano/Cap Battery/AB setup, and you've also got - dare I say it? - the BEST Salvaging Ship in the game. Yes I was answering for salvager modules. I might have been a little confused as person asking the question mentioned putting 'rigs' on a wreck. I assumed the question was actually referring to modules as you can't "put rigs on a wreck" - you fit them to the salvage ship and they will all be active on all wrecks you try to salvage. Cheers Baka ______________________ Isn't it time you learned to fight back? Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University.
MacNarin Minmatar Osibisa Interstellar Enterprises	Posted - 2008.04.13 11:48:00 - [21] Just to summarize a few things: 1) The amount of the salvage to be had in the wreck exists the moment it is blown up. You can do nothing to increase or decrease the AMOUNT of salvage you get from any one particular wreck. If you have a successful Salvage Cycle - you will get all the salvage the wreck has to offer - however much that may be. 2) The higher the level of the Salvaging Skill you have trained the greater the chance that each Salvager you use will succeed in salvaging a wreck during any particular Salvaging Cycle. Here, the Salvager makes it's little noise and after a while you get a message. The message indicates the end of one particular cycle and indicates if it was successful or not. It will also indicate if you obtained nothing despite successfully salvaging the wreck. 3) The more Salvager's you target on a wreck the more opportunities you have for a success. Each Salvager does NOTHING to improve the odds of any of the other's being successful. There is no aggregate odds you are creating of a successful salvage. You are simply adding another Salvager to the others already at work and giving it a chance to be successful too. 4) If you have more than one target - it is best to spread your Salvager's out as if the first Savager is successful during any particular cycle - the other two salvager's will complete their cycles to no purpose. But - if you do have more Salvager's than wrecks, by all means double or triple them up. 5) Different regions tend to produce certain types of Salvage. So, you'll notice that in some regions you get lots of one thing and few of another. If you're after the other - you need to be salvaging some where else. --------
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.13 16:27:00 - [22] Originally by: MacNarin 3) The more Salvager's you target on a wreck the more opportunities you have for a success. Each Salvager does NOTHING to improve the odds of any of the other's being successful. There is no aggregate odds you are creating of a successful salvage. You are simply adding another Salvager to the others already at work and giving it a chance to be successful too. Absolutely correct. It's like the lottery. If you buy one ticket for the lottery, with a 1 in 10 chance of winning, you have exactly that - a 1 in 10 chance. If you buy two tickets, then you have a 2 in 10 chance of winning, not a 1 in 5 chance. Essentially, each lottery ticket - has a 1 in 10 chance of winning, as they are both considered separate entities. Now offering Scanning Services for that 'hard to find' Mission Runner! Convo in-game for details!

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