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kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 13:45:16 This isk buying problem and gtc trading for isk is a COMPLETE JOKE.
If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm isk and buy gtc of the forums and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash instead of forcing people to spend rl cash on isk via the gtc way.
If you realy want this prob solved totaly come up with away to stop isk famrers buying and selling gtc's and higher the isk rewards of missions, or scrap the gtc trading totaly and higher rewards of missions.
I also find it amazing ccp is premoting isk gtc trading for you to make isk in the game to be able to play it why dont they just higher mission rewards and solve that stupid problem.
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kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 13:48:57 This isk buying problem and gtc trading for isk is a COMPLETE JOKE.
If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm isk and buy gtc of the forums and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash instead of forcing people to spend rl cash on isk via the gtc way.
If you realy want this prob solved totaly come up with away to stop isk famrers buying and selling gtc's and higher the isk rewards of missions, or scrap the gtc trading totaly and higher rewards of missions.
I also find it amazing ccp is premoting isk gtc trading for you to make isk in the game to be able to play it why dont they just higher mission rewards and solve that stupid problem.
and heres you answer to the people that will say iske sellers wil get more isk if mission rewards are higher etc.
ans: yes if missions rewards were more isk sellers will get more isk but lets face it what difference will it make isk sellers will never be gotten rid off, but if rewards were more players wont have the need to buy isk as they can easly make it pfft
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 09/04/2008 13:44:56
Originally by: kworld This isk buying problem and gtc trading for isk is a COMPLETE JOKE.
If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
1. Most farmers are farming missions or ratting in 0.0, not mining
2. This will lead to increased inflation that the farmer populations will only exaggerate
Quote: You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm isk and buy gtc of the forums and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash.
GTC trading outside the secure system is not allowed, most players will not due this due to the risk of being caught. Also, selling things like this on e-bay is against their policy and CCP can simply report them to have them removed.
Quote: If you realy want this prob solved totaly come up with away to stop isk famrers buying and selling gtc's and higher the isk rewards of missions, or scrap the gtc trading totaly and higher rewards of missions.
Right now GTC trade is fulfilling most of the $->ISK demand. If GTCs were removed illegal ISK buying would fulfill the entire demand, because most people who want to buy ISK will do so, illegal or not.
I won't comment any more because I've already made my points elsewhere and this is probably a troll. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |

Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Tarminic on 09/04/2008 13:44:56
Originally by: kworld This isk buying problem and gtc trading for isk is a COMPLETE JOKE.
If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
1. Most farmers are farming missions or ratting in 0.0, not mining
2. This will lead to increased inflation that the farmer populations will only exaggerate
Quote: You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm isk and buy gtc of the forums and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash.
GTC trading outside the secure system is not allowed, most players will not due this due to the risk of being caught. Also, selling things like this on e-bay is against their policy and CCP can simply report them to have them removed.
Quote: If you realy want this prob solved totaly come up with away to stop isk famrers buying and selling gtc's and higher the isk rewards of missions, or scrap the gtc trading totaly and higher rewards of missions.
Right now GTC trade is fulfilling most of the $->ISK demand. If GTCs were removed illegal ISK buying would fulfill the entire demand, because most people who want to buy ISK will do so, illegal or not.
I won't comment any more because I've already made my points elsewhere and this is probably a troll. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: kworld buy gtc of the forums and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash
Except this can't be done if trading via the ETC system since the timecode gets applied to the buyers account instantly, there are no codes ever transferred between the buyer and seller.
Basicly the seller adds the code to the buyers account, so the buyer has no way to ever see the code that the seller has.
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Smantha Dering
Caldari Sam's Space Guys
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:47:00 -
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I think you're the third one to duplicate Akita's thread making a total of 4 now. Why? Tell me why you felt it necessary to start yet another RMT/GTC thread? Did you think the arguments would magically change? There is an original 6 page thread already plus a couple of short ones duplicating the first. Use the search function, read the topics on the first page of this forum. Dupe Tard!
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Tchell Dahhn
Amarr Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: kworld This ISK buying problem and GTC trading for ISK is a COMPLETE JOKE.
If CCP really wanted to get rid of the problem of the ISK sellers they could do it easily!
All they would have to do is increase the reward of ISK from missions and rats, then the mineral farming will stop, and the EvE market will be saved. If you have a brain, you will know what I mean.
You are never going to get rid of the ISK sellers using current methods, because, if they cant trade ISK, all they will do is farm ISK and buy GTC on the forums, and then sell them on E-Bay for half the price in RL cash! Basically, it's the same, however, CCP also gets some cash as well.
If you really want this problem to be solved, come up with away to stop ISK Farmers buying and selling GTC's and increase the ISK rewards of missions, or scrap the GTC trading completely and increase the rewards of missions.
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kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Edited by: Tarminic on 09/04/2008 13:44:56
Originally by: kworld This isk buying problem and gtc trading for isk is a COMPLETE JOKE.
If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
1. Most farmers are farming missions or ratting in 0.0, not mining
2. This will lead to increased inflation that the farmer populations will only exaggerate
Quote: You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm isk and buy gtc of the forums and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash.
GTC trading outside the secure system is not allowed, most players will not due this due to the risk of being caught. Also, selling things like this on e-bay is against their policy and CCP can simply report them to have them removed.
Quote: If you realy want this prob solved totaly come up with away to stop isk famrers buying and selling gtc's and higher the isk rewards of missions, or scrap the gtc trading totaly and higher rewards of missions.
Right now GTC trade is fulfilling most of the $->ISK demand. If GTCs were removed illegal ISK buying would fulfill the entire demand, because most people who want to buy ISK will do so, illegal or not.
I won't comment any more because I've already made my points elsewhere and this is probably a troll.
yes if missions rewards were more isk sellers will get more isk but lets face it what difference will it make isk sellers will never be gotten rid off, but if rewards were more players wont have the need to buy isk as they can easly make it pfft
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: kworld yes if missions rewards were more isk sellers will get more isk but lets face it what difference will it make isk sellers will never be gotten rid off, but if rewards were more players wont have the need to buy isk as they can easly make it pfft
No, because it will lead to rampant inflation, meaning ISK overall will be worth less. You'll have the same problem in 6 months. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |

Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:53:00 -
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Oh yes, grand idea.
Some people think making isk is too hard, so they buy some for RL cash.
Problem: eerh, it's no fair ! Farmers ! Ohnoes !
Your solution: Give everyone more free isk.
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Question ? Have you thought about it at ALL ?
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kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: kworld yes if missions rewards were more isk sellers will get more isk but lets face it what difference will it make isk sellers will never be gotten rid off, but if rewards were more players wont have the need to buy isk as they can easly make it pfft
No, because it will lead to rampant inflation, meaning ISK overall will be worth less. You'll have the same problem in 6 months.
no you wouldnt because the cost of building ships wont change etc
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: kworld
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: kworld yes if missions rewards were more isk sellers will get more isk but lets face it what difference will it make isk sellers will never be gotten rid off, but if rewards were more players wont have the need to buy isk as they can easly make it pfft
No, because it will lead to rampant inflation, meaning ISK overall will be worth less. You'll have the same problem in 6 months.
no you wouldnt because the cost of building ships wont change etc
Wikipedia
Quote: Inflation is a phenomenon caused by the increase of money supply relative to the growth of production capacity for goods and services. It may also refer to a rise in the prices of a specific set of goods or services. In either case, it is measured as the percentage rate of change of a price index.
You don't understand what inflation is. Until you do some research there's no point in arguing with you because I'd spend most of my time explaining basic economics. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |

Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:02:00 -
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Having active threads about a topic & posting a new thread about it is a COMPLETE JOKE.
It only clutters the forums, makes it harder to moderate and upsets the database.
If CCP really cares about its EvE forums they should ban anyone doing that instantly and permanently.  -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
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kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 14:03:21 The cost of building ships wont change etc, basically the mining of ore and the ore requirements of building ships wont change = ship price will stay as it is no inflation no isk getting less value. All that wil be different is people will make more isk more easly and if they could do this they wil buy more stuff of the market making it more easy to sell stuff on market. All this will also make the need of buying isk no more.
Alot of you are getting this game mixed up with rl lol and rl market its nothing like it.
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Moran Trayga
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: kworld Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 14:00:24
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: kworld yes if missions rewards were more isk sellers will get more isk but lets face it what difference will it make isk sellers will never be gotten rid off, but if rewards were more players wont have the need to buy isk as they can easly make it pfft
No, because it will lead to rampant inflation, meaning ISK overall will be worth less. You'll have the same problem in 6 months.
no you wouldnt because the cost of building ships wont change etc, basically the mining of ore and the ore requirements of building ships wont change = ship price will stay as it is no inflation no isk getting less value. All that wil be different is people will make more isk more easly and if they could do this they wil buy more stuff of the market making it more easy to sell stuff on market. All this will also make the need of buying isk no more.
Look how stupid you are. Read some of the Economics related threads under General Discussion and Market Discussion if you don't understand.
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: kworld
:words:
I realise watching your alliance crumble around you has probably taken it's toll on your mental health, but please try to conduct yourself in a civilized manner in the future.
-Thanks, hutch.
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Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:06:00 -
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it's not a problem, now **** off. ---
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spiderppig
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: kworld Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 14:12:07 If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm it and buy gtc with it, and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash.
The cost of building ships wont change etc, basically the mining of ore and the ore requirements of building ships wont change = ship price will stay as it is no inflation no isk getting less value. All that wil be different is people will make more isk more easly and if they could do this they will buy more stuff of the market making it more easy to sell stuff on market. All this will also make the need of buying isk no more.
Alot of you are getting this game mixed up with rl lol and rl market is nothing like this
R Tarded idea imho
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kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: spiderppig
Originally by: kworld Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 14:12:07 If CCP realy wanted to get rid of the problem of the isk sellers they could easly do it! all they would have to do is higher the reward of isk from missions and rats, the mineral farming will then stop the eve market will be saved if you have a brain you will know what i mean.
You are never going to get rid of the isk sellers because if they cant trade isk all they will do is farm it and buy gtc with it, and then sell them on ebay for half the price in rl cash so basically its the same but ccp also gets cash.
The cost of building ships wont change etc, basically the mining of ore and the ore requirements of building ships wont change = ship price will stay as it is no inflation no isk getting less value. All that wil be different is people will make more isk more easly and if they could do this they will buy more stuff of the market making it more easy to sell stuff on market. All this will also make the need of buying isk no more.
Alot of you are getting this game mixed up with rl lol and rl market is nothing like this
R Tarded idea imho
realy why is it back up your words rememebr this is a game market not rl
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Overwhelmed
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
You don't understand what inflation is. Until you do some research there's no point in arguing with you because I'd spend most of my time explaining basic economics.
You pretty much painted the reason why its useless to type more than a few lines to anyone. I don't know how you can do this forum warrior thing. Its bad for the psyche. ---------------------------------------------------------- Posting And You Disclaimer: This is a meta-game alt for meta-game discussions. |

kworld
Gallente modro CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Overwhelmed
Originally by: Tarminic
You don't understand what inflation is. Until you do some research there's no point in arguing with you because I'd spend most of my time explaining basic economics.
You pretty much painted the reason why its useless to type more than a few lines to anyone. I don't know how you can do this forum warrior thing. Its bad for the psyche.
i see what you mean, i have worded this totaly wrong i will re word it.
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Asestorian
Domination. Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:23:00 -
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Wait, so basically you want to increase the amount of money that ISK farmers make (because they rat and mission far more than they mine)?
Wow, brilliant idea.
ISK farmers will never go away as long as there are people willing to buy ISK from them. The real answer is to stop people wanting to buy ISK, but you can't do that, so instead CCP set up a legal way to do it that gives CCP the real life money, and allows someone to play the game that otherwise may not have been able to. The other thing to note is that the money passed around in this way is gained more legitimately, rather than a paid work force hogging belts and pumping masses and masses of ISK into the economy for no reason but for sale.
GTCs for ISK isn't perfect, because it's still real life money being traded for ISK. However, it's by far the lesser of two evils, and at least benefits CCP and legitimate players in some way.
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spiderppig
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:25:00 -
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awww had 2 retract ur statement?

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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:26:00 -
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GTCs are there because people who buy ISK are going to do it, regardless. Having that 'official' way to do it cuts down on the third-party market, is secure for the player, earns CCP money and allows people who arn't that rich in RL to pay for their subscriptions.
Fair? not really - but what can ya do?  ...
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: spiderppig awww had 2 retract ur statement?

Heh, indeed. Weak!
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: kworld Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 14:20:45 Edited by: kworld on 09/04/2008 14:20:37
Gonna quote dis OP.
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.04.10 02:33:00 -
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