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SKINK0429
Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.10 07:48:00 -
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I shortly finish my training for cruiser 5 and have all the support skills to fly a vaga well, but I was wondering do they tank well or should I just do the routine nano setup? Im not wanting to solo roam, I guess I mainly wrk in 15-20 man gangs or smaller. Has anyone here tanked a vaga.
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:01:00 -
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unless you want to diealot then use a tanked vaga :P
nano works best.
5x 220mm, heavy launcher
mwd, disrupt, 2x lse
2x gyro, 2x od, nano or istab in last
rigs of choise. polys/aux thrusters/falloff rigs/shield rigs... ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: SKINK0429 Tanked Vaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What does the scouter say ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Riho unless you want to diealot then use a tanked vaga :P
nano works best.
5x 220mm, heavy launcher
mwd, disrupt, 2x lse
2x gyro, 2x od, nano or istab in last
rigs of choise. polys/aux thrusters/falloff rigs/shield rigs...
**** post preview, you've won this round riho... ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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SKINK0429
Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:04:00 -
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Edited by: SKINK0429 on 10/04/2008 08:04:54 I meant regular tank not nano speed tank! I know the norn vaga setups!
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Gneeznow
Minmatar R.U.S.T. Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:18:00 -
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If you die in a tanked vaga your deathmail on whatever killboard its posted on will have 30 comments all along the lines of - lol that guy put an active tank on his vaga lolol
do you want to be that guy?
tanked vaga doesnt work, its designed for speed, fly it like a stabber and you will get the best out of it.
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:28:00 -
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try a plate/gank fit, tell us how it goes. try flying it like Garmons rupture.
something like
[Vagabond, Plategank] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M [empty high slot]
Anti-Explosive Pump I Anti-Explosive Pump I
Hornet EC-300 x5
fit an offline something or other in that highslot and Heat those fu#kers
with barrage ammo 410 dps with hail 522 fleet Phased Plasma 429
still goes 2.5 km/s for the closing or holding of range. 21k effective hp
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Helios Hyperion try a plate/gank fit, tell us how it goes. try flying it like Garmons rupture.
something like
[Vagabond, Plategank] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M [empty high slot]
Anti-Explosive Pump I Anti-Explosive Pump I
Hornet EC-300 x5
fit an offline something or other in that highslot and Heat those fu#kers
with barrage ammo 410 dps with hail 522 fleet Phased Plasma 429
still goes 2.5 km/s for the closing or holding of range. 21k effective hp
nonono, you want active armor hardeners, MARII, d180s and 2 dim nos ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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SKINK0429
Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:29:00 -
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No I dnt want to be that guy I was just asking if a regular tanked vaga would wrk!
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:29:00 -
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AWU 5 would be required =P
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: SKINK0429 No I dnt want to be that guy I was just asking if a regular tanked vaga would wrk!
If you dont nano hacs, there is basically no reason to fly them over a tier 2 BC(bar eagle/antisupport hacs in a sniping fit).
What you're looking for is a hurricane, it has massively more hp and dps compared to the vaga.
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Helios Hyperion
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: SKINK0429 No I dnt want to be that guy I was just asking if a regular tanked vaga would wrk!
If you dont nano hacs, there is basically no reason to fly them over a tier 2 BC(bar eagle/antisupport hacs in a sniping fit).
What you're looking for is a hurricane, it has massively more hp and dps compared to the vaga.
this, unfortunately, the same goes for the deimos to brutix.
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: SKINK0429 No I dnt want to be that guy I was just asking if a regular tanked vaga would wrk!
there is no NORMAL TANKED vaga :P
normal vaga is LSE and nano :/ ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:47:00 -
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[Vagabond, New Setup 1] 3 x Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II
5 x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
This is the best effective tank you can have on a vaga...unfortunately there is no other options...real options
Proud member of RTSQ
ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
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Volarius
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.10 09:15:00 -
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Either go with nano or tank, not some girly mix.
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Everyone Dies
Caldari Lucky Tampon
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Posted - 2008.04.10 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Everyone Dies on 10/04/2008 09:17:09 [Vagabond] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Salvager I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Hannobaal
Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.10 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: SKINK0429 No I dnt want to be that guy I was just asking if a regular tanked vaga would wrk!
Look at its bonuses for christ's sake.
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Vagra
Minmatar Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2008.04.10 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Vagra on 10/04/2008 11:14:16 Edited by: Vagra on 10/04/2008 11:13:13 LOWS 2 x Gyrostabilizer II 3 x Power Diagnostic System II
MIDS Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Booster II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II
HIGHS 5 x 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M 1 x Medium NOS II (Faction if you can afford)
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Get webbed and your dead. carry Small ECM drones onboard. It does work for pirating 0.4 below however i wouldn't use it in 0.0 unless you are in a group. Solo in 0.0 always go for speed. ----------------
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Car Wars
O.W.N. Corp United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.10 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Car Wars on 10/04/2008 13:19:50 If the OP asks for a normal vaga tank, give him one, come on guys.
[Vagabond]
low slot
Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Chelm's Modified Armor Kinetic Hardener Cormack's Modified Co-Processor Corelum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Dread Guristas Co-Processor
med slot
Estamel's Modified X-Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Luther Veron's Modified Shield Extender Kaikka's Modified Photon Scattering Field
high slot
Small Tractor Beam I 'Wild' Miner I Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Domination Micro Proton Smartbomb Corpii A-Type Small Nosferatu
rigs
Bay Loading Accelerator II Anti-Thermic Pump I
drones
Civilian Mining Drone x1 Harvester Mining Drone x1 'Augmented' Warrior x1 'Augmented' Hornet x1
Please buy all this and we can go test it out in low sec at a safe spot. Will be happy to help you test. One word of advise, run both shield and armor tank at the same time, works great.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.04.10 13:38:00 -
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Are you the type of person that would nano a Munnin?
Some ships can be flown successfully thinking outside the box and flown unconventionally.
The Vagabond does not fall in that category. It has 0 tanking bonus, and it has a speed bonus. Putting plates on kills your bonus without giving you a tank worth comparing to a Battlecruiser (Hurricane), while slowing you down to the point that most weapons will hit you, and you will be catchable by any other nano ship.
Vaga lacks cap to run an effective active tank.
Your main tank is in avoiding getting hit in the first place, or escaping at will. The shield extenders give you enough buffer to see if your hit and strike is working or if you need to get the hell out of the fight.
__________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Culitza
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Posted - 2008.04.10 15:04:00 -
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there's no tank involved in vaga or ishtar :| they fail at the job ... but they are more then effective with nano setups. the only way to tank a minmatarr t2 ship is SHIELD tank and with the vaga's 4 mids there's not much of a tank that you can fit in there. You can try something like 2 x LSE 1 x invuln and 1 x 10mn MWD, lows: 2 x gyro and rest only PDS or SPR ? BUT WHY ? :) nano-it ... nuff' said
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Matsui Hideki
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.10 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Culitza there's no tank involved in vaga or ishtar :| they fail at the job
Ishtars tank just fine
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.10 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: SKINK0429 No I dnt want to be that guy I was just asking if a regular tanked vaga would wrk!
It would work in that you might kill something. It wouldn't be as successful as a speed tanked nano hac.
Speed is a vastly superior tank with curent game mechanics.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.04.10 17:45:00 -
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You perfectly can tank a vaga with all those lows. On top of it you have enough meds for 2x webs + scram.
Fit your lows with tank, meds tackle, hi dps and nos/neut and you are in to ruin most nano/fast/inty ships that thought you where a 'normal' nano vaga.
Ignore them forum warriors and go for what the hell you feel like. Then come back on forums and laugh at the 'nerf tanked vaga' threads.
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