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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.04.20 13:27:00 -
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Today i made a decision!
the house of bromide will no longer waste time or assets on slaves.
In the past few weeks the insults on the GalNet spitted at the amarrian people for employing adopted workers, for the purpose of enlightenment through work and education, grew more and more absurd, as they are the same i'm used to hear for ages now.
i grew tired of those and i do not want to risk losing my adoptees in an act of terrorism on the commuter shuttles my house used to get the adoptees from their working place to their accomodation camps.
therefore the following actions were or will be taken:
1.) 12 of my adoptees, the enlightened ones, were set free and equipped with assets and isk to be able to start a life of their own in the empire.
2.) 31 of my adoptees, the most promising ones, were entered into training programms and scripture schools to reach enlightenment in the shortest period of time possible.
3.) 1,423 children of my adoptees, the most promising again, were given over to private schools or universities directly as those allready are touched by god and on the right way.
4.) all the "failures" among my adoptees (a mere 19,573) were handed to a slave trader and i hope they will find new masters who take good care of them and may be more successful in enlightening them
5.)as soon as my production and research facilities are upgraded to need less workforce i will employ ammatars to do the work.
6.) 67 of my house-slaves chose to stay with me (as i do not have a family) and serve out of their own free will.
7.) i will continue my fight to protect amarr and it's citizens from whatever threats may occur, with my life my assets and my soul!
DIXIT!
edited: 1)spelling 2)last paragraph deleted for humanitarian reasons 3)for content
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Dagoth IronJaw
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Posted - 2004.04.20 17:16:00 -
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And none executed for your personal amusement?
I must say, I'm impressed, i suppose your at the Better end of the Amarrian morality pool
It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2004.04.20 18:42:00 -
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I too am somewhat impressed with your commitment. However I have a few problems with this too.
First of all, there is no gaurentee that you gave the ones you sent to "schools" a choice. From the information you have provided, you based this purely on your assessment of them that you had no right to make. If I am wrong then correct me.
Secondly, I have major concernes for those that you gave to a slaver. Why did some of them merit total freedom and others need sending back into the pool of forced labour?
Thirdly, for the ones you set free, this is hardly a large number and nothing to shout about in any respect. And it hardly washes your hands of your actions so the gesture is rather hollow.
Finally, and my most greatest fear, you have sent the children of these slaves to your education facilities, thereby destroying any chance they have to think for themselves. I have no doubts that they will be taught all about how to enforce their will on other people under the pretense of "enlightenment" and how much better their lives are with a god that would allow such a thing.
Overall, I may be impressed, but that is only a mere small measure. ------
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.04.20 19:20:00 -
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well i can guarantee you that the children and those sent to other facilities will be educated to good amarr citizens though not amarrian. they will find their place in the amarr empire and enlightenment throught the guidiance of our superior tutors! the ones i gave to a slave retailer are out of my hands now but the trader assured me that they will not be provided with implants but sold to houses who, like me, are working towards enlightening their poor lost souls!
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Lector Mobias
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Posted - 2004.04.20 19:29:00 -
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I applaud you selling on of the slaves - your original plan of selling the remainder for biomass was far too wasteful. Unless of course, the biomass plant could have given you a better price. --
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xt95
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
Secondly, I have major concernes for those that you gave to a slaver. Why did some of them merit total freedom and others need sending back into the pool of forced labour?
Because they have not yet been enlightened, I am sure the trader thaty the slaves were sold to will encourage them along the holy path.
Originally by: Darius Shakor
Thirdly, for the ones you set free, this is hardly a large number and nothing to shout about in any respect. And it hardly washes your hands of your actions so the gesture is rather hollow.
you only care about the masses? you have lowered my allready deflated opinion of the minmatar race, i see that it matters nothing of the saves that were released. Now i see that you don't fight for beliefs but for politicail power.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2004.04.20 22:37:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 20/04/2004 22:39:17
Quote: you only care about the masses? you have lowered my allready deflated opinion of the minmatar race, i see that it matters nothing of the saves that were released. Now i see that you don't fight for beliefs but for politicail power.
How do you come to that conclusion. Even a single slave being freed is good news, I didn't mean it to say that it is not a good thing. However I can see how it might be interpreted that way by someone who is so lacking in freedom of thought as yourself and your people. Maybe next time you should ask your god to read it to you? He obviously would have put a little more deep thought into my words and read what wasn't said. ------
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2004.04.21 01:31:00 -
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Ethidium my good brother, I am a little bewildered by your sudden interest in the safety and future of some lowly slaves. This is not my place to question your decision though.
Please let me know the name of your slave trader as I need to replenish my slave stocks due to an unfortunate incident at my farm in which the slaves decided to break open one of the uranium rods I had lying around thats used to bring light to them at night.. unfortunately they used quite a big hammer and subsequently quite a big explosion was made.
The mess was that huge that I've had to get the remaining slaves to wax my ships four times this week.
Regards,
Sceartan.
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xt95
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Posted - 2004.04.21 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
However I can see how it might be interpreted that way by someone who is so lacking in freedom of thought as yourself and your people.
freedom, you use that too liberaly, freedom isnt a right, it is earnt just like respect. I am not a slave, although i come from ni kunni roots, I am a loyal respected citizen of amarr. You by all rights are a heathen, you should be a slave so i shall treat you as one.
Originally by: Darius Shakor
Maybe next time you should ask your god to read it to you? He obviously would have put a little more deep thought into my words and read what wasn't said.
Our God would ot bother himself with such trivial matters as a minmatars slander. Do i pick up a taste of mockery maby? slaves shouldnt be mocking thier masters..
see you around, slave
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.04.21 07:06:00 -
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Yay! We are back to the "GRRR ME MEAN SLAVER, ME BETTER THAN YOU!" and "NO, YOU ARE SMELLY SLAVER GUY, WE NO LISTEN TO YOU!" rants huh?
Go ahead.
I tried it.
Maybe the new blood will learn faster than me that it doesn't change anything.
You have to make change happen. --------------------------------------------------
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2004.04.21 07:43:00 -
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Quote:
today i made a decision!
the house of bromide will no longer waste time or assets on slaves.[/QUOTE]
A risky statement for an amarr, your own people will have problems to understand.
here is my risky statement: whatever the motives are, this is a step in the right direction...
maybe i live long enough to see the start of a new peace process....
Dont pull back from the battlefields yet, id miss you out there :o)
v.Adm. ZoolKhan; U'K Council member. W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Dagoth IronJaw
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Posted - 2004.04.21 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Dagoth IronJaw on 21/04/2004 08:57:58
Originally by: xt95
Originally by: Darius Shakor
However I can see how it might be interpreted that way by someone who is so lacking in freedom of thought as yourself and your people.
freedom, you use that too liberaly, freedom isnt a right, it is earnt just like respect. I am not a slave, although i come from ni kunni roots, I am a loyal respected citizen of amarr. You by all rights are a heathen, you should be a slave so i shall treat you as one.
How about you come and make us your slaves then xt? I am my own master, and i choose to follow my CEO, not some self righteous murderer who executed slaves because he was too scared to take on a Matari or two in Amarr, put your ISK where your mouth is and come get us 
[EDIT] Before you jump in, xt, i know were not officially at war, but i can easily arrange a frigate duel, drop me a mail 
It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
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Mos Panor
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Posted - 2004.04.21 09:10:00 -
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Indeed, a noble ethos Ethidium...
It's good to see a fellow member of PIE giving the enlightened ones a chance to further their standing within the Empire and realise their role as servants to Amarr.
I personally only use a handful of slaves. They are fed well, educated and are well looked after. Furthermore, they know that God is shining down on them and that they grow as individuals each day that they serve. -------------------------- PIE Inc Captain and Internal Communications Officer |

Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.04.21 10:25:00 -
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I'm sad that you chose not to send any to the Ammatar State. We are always looking for Minmatar who have seen the light of the scriptures and wish for golden rays of servitude to rain down upon them. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2004.04.21 11:00:00 -
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Quote: freedom, you use that too liberaly, freedom isnt a right, it is earnt just like respect. I am not a slave, although i come from ni kunni roots, I am a loyal respected citizen of amarr.
First of all, you did not read what I said properly again. Read it in contect of the quote within and you will see that I was referring to your inability to read a little deeper into other peoples posts. And the freedom of thought comment was specifically directed at your utter dependency in what you holy scriptures say. You Amarrians tend to lose sight of anything else oter than the word of god. And if there is no word of god to cover what you are saying you are stuck if you have allowed your creativity to wander away with your scriptures.
Secondly, you make such a statement to say you are not a slave, however my above statement contests that. You are indeed a slave. Without god you would be nothing. I seem to remember one of your peers stating that not long ago. Again, you have doomed yourselves to a life time of mental dependency.
Quote: You by all rights are a heathen, you should be a slave so i shall treat you as one.
I am a heathen only by your measuring stick. The same is true of you being a barbaric slaver by my peoples measuring stick. At least I can respect the differences there by not throwing such comments in your face all the time. And if you wish to treat me as a slave, you are welcome to try. But let it be known if you do, you will be the aggressors, not me.
Quote: Our God would ot bother himself with such trivial matters as a minmatars slander. Do i pick up a taste of mockery maby? slaves shouldnt be mocking thier masters..
If he would not then you are truely lost as it seems you will not bother yourself either. Mockery? Not at all. Simply a little irony to highlight my point. I too have my own faith xt95, I know what it is to believe in something greater than yourself. I place my faith in the spirits of my encestors who guide their children along a better path.
If I mocked your faith I would be a hypocrit. Maybe now that I have cleard my stance on religion you will agree with that? ------
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.04.22 07:10:00 -
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dear fellow brothers!
2 of my former slaves convoed me yesterday to tell me how they are doing. i'm proud to announce that they are now serving in ammatar marine forces. 4 more former slaves were granted access into the ammatar fleet basic training programme and i hope they can succed to become good pilots defending our borders.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.04.22 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ethidium Bromide dear fellow brothers!
2 of my former slaves convoed me yesterday to tell me how they are doing. i'm proud to announce that they are now serving in ammatar marine forces. 4 more former slaves were granted access into the ammatar fleet basic training programme and i hope they can succed to become good pilots defending our borders.
That's great Ethidium! Maybe I will get to meet them someday when I'm passing through Ammatar space. Otherwise I wish them well and will ensure that the Ammatar Government takes good care of them as they always do with new recruits. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2004.04.26 09:54:00 -
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Ethidium I salute your efforts, you do not need slaves, and still wish them to remain more enlightned then those disgusting Gallentes, or Minmatar rebels would behave. This is a worthy goal and should be followed by others whenever possible, and no matter how slow the process.
If need be, I'm sure even a proper Caldari upbringing would be more justified then what they would get from their own race, or from slavers, which was the only sad part I could see of all this.
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Van Halen
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Posted - 2004.06.30 04:44:00 -
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Quote: to remain more enlightned then those disgusting Gallentes
i should be insulted but Gallente get ragged on a lot anyway. Why would i care, I'm Intaki, not Gallente, My allegiance goes with the Caldari State, in my opinion the most uncorrupted of all the 4 nations, the Gallente are just a little too weird for me, ammarrians take the relion thing way too seriously, if they had a god that would "punish us non belivers" dont u think he would've done it by now? but as part of the state i will not interfere War of Slavery between the Minimatar and the Amarr, unless i am hired to fight, i sell my service to the highest bidder and perform according to how i am paid, if interested convo me ingame.
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Dau Imperius
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Posted - 2004.06.30 05:42:00 -
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Perhaps good sir you'd be kind enough to look at the date of these old posts before you comment....
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fennix
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Posted - 2004.06.30 06:53:00 -
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Their should of never been slaves in ur house in the first place. for god created all us equal
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.06.30 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: fennix Their should of never been slaves in ur house in the first place. for god created all us equal
It is always a pleasure to see an elightened Amarrian! Bravo!
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2004.06.30 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Doone
Originally by: fennix Their should of never been slaves in ur house in the first place. for god created all us equal
It is always a pleasure to see an elightened Amarrian! Bravo!
when eventually all those inferiour races are enlightened there will be no need for slaves anymore. untill then the system has to go on. i had my own reasons for freeing those slaves and once those problems are solved i will ofcourse take up my duty to enlighten the naxt batch.
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