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ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.04.12 02:53:00 - [1] I fly a Hug and love it. Just want to see a few other fits Atm I'm real real cookie cutter. I run in Solo/small fast gangs. HI 3 220(Barage) T2 HVY (Mixture of CN/T2 Missles) Med 2 90% webs SB(scan Res) LSEII MWDII T2 Scram Lows 2 T2 Istabs DCUII Drone bay 5 light Ecm drones 3 WarriorII no rigs. Also why would a Vaga ever try and solo a Hug? 1 tried lastnite..Yeah he died. Boo CCP!!!!
dolmant	Posted - 2008.04.12 08:47:00 - [2] Yeah, cookie cutter is really the way to go... unless your gatecamping, thats pretty much the setup i use, except with a cloak (to save myself from nano gangs on a gate, or to give time for support) cos another 220mm gives practically no more dps anyway. Vaga's do have more dps, however i think they just fight on the off chance they win. One was almost winning against me a while back, until i switched on the MWD, and most of his dps (the drones) fell off, and i killed him with 70% shields. If they get too close, and they have a web, they will win because close range they DO do far more dps, but its usually just a case of they get caught and fight on the off chance your an idiot and they can escape. BTW fit rigs. something to increase survivability by nano or by tank. Spend over 80m on a huginn, go the extra 30m and get a couple of rigs, increase your survivability by 30% ;)
Sedai Hara The Forsakened Companions Pure.	Posted - 2008.04.12 13:22:00 - [3] I fly huginns alot, its actually the only ship i fly atm. Anyway, you got your fittings pretty much right. though i either loose the point or scan res for another LSE II (yes you bloody need it to stay in there ling enough) also i fit a PDS II for some more general stats, and dual 180mm IIs to ease of the PG alittle. I can also say the huginn is the one ship where pimping really is worth it! I have spent close to 400 mil on mine and i love the ship, really enhances what it can do. First of i say get pollies, yes they are expensive but they do a massive increase in survvability for this ship. It needs every m/s it can get as it aint fast like the vaga. Then go for fact webbs, shadow serps is pretty cheap and common, but % isnt to good, so true sansha is the way to go. Then maybe get a faction point to be able to orbit alittle further out. Be sure to bring medium drones when soloing, otherwise your DPS is teh same as a wet paperbag. Now throw in a good, pimped claymore pilot and you are looking at 5500+ m/s and 60-80km webbs. also 36km point is nice indeed. Soloing nanoships is easy, but try and solo heavy tanked BCs and BSes and you get into trouble. though its alot of fun :D ----------------------------- Originally by: Ozzie Asrail A mega without 3 magstabs fitted is like kladdkaka without chocolate.
Tregaron Minmatar Filthy Scum	Posted - 2008.04.15 13:58:00 - [4] Here's mine 3x 220mm t2 3x arbi heavy launchers 1x mwd 1x warp dis/sensor booster 2x webs 2x LSE t2 1x dmg ctrl/Pdu t2 2x PDU t2 2x core defence field purges/ extenders 3x hamers t2 2x warrior t2
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.04.15 15:00:00 - [5] Heres mine: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II Reactor Control Unit I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Projectile Ambit Extension I Auxiliary Thrusters I Also warrior T2 Drones, this combo makes it pretty leathal in a small pvp gang or solo.
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv	Posted - 2008.04.15 15:09:00 - [6] I haven't had any luck with BC's against Rapier/Huginn. I'm running a low sec hurricane with duel armor reps, great resists. Would I maybe be better off in a extended Shield setup with more gank and speed in lows(I run ECM drones to break locks)?
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.04.15 15:11:00 - [7] Huginns and rappiers are very effective killing ships, try a vagabound with a falcon. The problem is that they can easily kill interceptors so running point on them is pointless, They also have nasty web bonus's.
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.04.15 15:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Seetesh Heres mine: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II Reactor Control Unit I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Projectile Ambit Extension I Auxiliary Thrusters I Also warrior T2 Drones, this combo makes it pretty leathal in a small pvp gang or solo. How do u get the grid for a 2nd LSEII? I like the ROF from T2 Hvy Launchers Boo CCP!!!!
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.04.15 15:45:00 - [9] Originally by: ViperVenom Originally by: Seetesh Heres mine: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II Reactor Control Unit I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Projectile Ambit Extension I Auxiliary Thrusters I Also warrior T2 Drones, this combo makes it pretty leathal in a small pvp gang or solo. How do u get the grid for a 2nd LSEII? I like the ROF from T2 Hvy Launchers Skills :) advanced weapon upgrades works well
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.04.15 17:26:00 - [10] Originally by: Seetesh Heres mine: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II Reactor Control Unit I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Projectile Ambit Extension I Auxiliary Thrusters I Also warrior T2 Drones, this combo makes it pretty leathal in a small pvp gang or solo. But im still lost i have AMU5 and im still short. Also why would u ever use the T2 webber when the Fleeting is better with less fittings? I did put rigs in my Hug and i love it even more now i went with Aux thrusters x2 And i also find that going in to PVP with out a DCUII is a bad i idea. I like in the lows: IstabII Overdrive II DCUII thats just me thou. Also im guessing that the 2 LSEII will only fit with a RCUII Boo CCP!!!!

Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.04.15 17:31:00 - [11] Ok maybe fleeting was better but the T2 ones were the nearest ones when i completed the setup but the LSEt2 really do need the RCUt2, it has no real tank but can run away and orbit at decent speeds and web at very long ranges. I might inter switch for a DCU on my other huginn see how it performs.
Monticore D'Muertos Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.04.15 18:09:00 - [12] with awu5 and shield upgrades 5 ya need 2x pdu to fit 220sand t2 heavies with mwd/2x web/2x extender/disruptor so fit dual 180s if you want to fit more speed mods in the lows., i wanted to try this setup any thoughts. 3x 220, 3x t2 heavies mwd/2x extender/2xwebs/disruptor bcu/2x pdu 1 kinetic rig 1 falloffrig
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.04.15 18:31:00 - [13] Originally by: ViperVenom How do u get the grid for a 2nd LSEII? I like the ROF from T2 Hvy Launchers What's your Shield Upgrades skill at? Higher levels reduce the PG required to fit. ----------------------------------- You're not a pirate unless your -10
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.04.15 22:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Monticore D'Muertos with awu5 and shield upgrades 5 ya need 2x pdu to fit 220sand t2 heavies with mwd/2x web/2x extender/disruptor so fit dual 180s if you want to fit more speed mods in the lows., i wanted to try this setup any thoughts. 3x 220, 3x t2 heavies mwd/2x extender/2xwebs/disruptor bcu/2x pdu 1 kinetic rig 1 falloffrig Nice setup. I'm going to buy another Hug and fit it with Dual 180`s and ill try Fall off rig`s.. I still think if u PVP u need a DcUII Every pvp ship I fly has 1 except My Claw and Jag. Boo CCP!!!!
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.15 23:26:00 - [15] 3x 180 IIs 3x HML IIs MWD II Web IIs SB II LSE II Scram II 2x OD II Nano II 2x Poly 4x Valk IIs Use it for home defense... right now the polys are auxes, but thinking about selling this one and exchanging for the polys, and considering a true sansha web or two.
dolmant	Posted - 2008.04.16 00:46:00 - [16] Originally by: Seetesh Heres mine: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II Reactor Control Unit I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Projectile Ambit Extension I Auxiliary Thrusters I Also warrior T2 Drones, this combo makes it pretty leathal in a small pvp gang or solo. Hmmmm... You very short on grid there, my setup is something like this: and i use my guns to kill drones, because they dont hit anything else Lows: DCU II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: Improved cloaking device II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II With EMP Ammo Dual 180mm AutoCannon II With EMP Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher II Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher II Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher II Faction Navy Ammo plus whatever rigs you like. I get just under 10 000 shields, has good survivability, and although your speed isn't great, i can use the cloak to get out of camps and scout. This also saves me a lot of grid, because another AC cant hit much if your orbiting at 15km anyway. Almost better off shooting the guys drones, cos those mediums hurt. my 2 isk
Murath Kalth Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.04.16 06:45:00 - [17] 3 x 280mm II 3 x Hvy missile 2 x LSE II 1 x Mwd 2 x Webbers II 1 x Disrupter II 1 x OD II 1 x DCU II 1 x IStab (best named) Rigs 2 x Poly Drones 4 x Ec300 4 x Warrior II Sometimes Pleasure is a sin But to Sin is Always a Pleasure
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.04.16 08:02:00 - [18] Originally by: dolmant Originally by: Seetesh Heres mine: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II Reactor Control Unit I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II With Barage T2 Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher Named Faction Navy Ammo Projectile Ambit Extension I Auxiliary Thrusters I Also warrior T2 Drones, this combo makes it pretty leathal in a small pvp gang or solo. Hmmmm... You very short on grid there, my setup is something like this: and i use my guns to kill drones, because they dont hit anything else Lows: DCU II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Highs: Improved cloaking device II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II With EMP Ammo Dual 180mm AutoCannon II With EMP Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher II Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher II Faction Navy Ammo Heavy Missile Launcher II Faction Navy Ammo plus whatever rigs you like. I get just under 10 000 shields, has good survivability, and although your speed isn't great, i can use the cloak to get out of camps and scout. This also saves me a lot of grid, because another AC cant hit much if your orbiting at 15km anyway. Almost better off shooting the guys drones, cos those mediums hurt. my 2 isk Yeah i run out of PG pretty quickly, i had to use a RCU T2 and advanced weapon upgrades, yours looks interesting. I like the idea of a cloak, the cloaked velocity always bothered me however but ill fit up a spare huginn and try it out.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.04.16 08:34:00 - [19] tbh.. if you want to fit a cloak... fly a rapier :P.. atleast thats what i do when i want to fly cloaked. ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Seetesh Caldari Pixels Docks	Posted - 2008.04.16 09:58:00 - [20] Yeah i use a rapier, and normally i wouldnt dream of fitting a cloak or a tank, might be interesting.

Dreadmuppet Four	Posted - 2008.04.16 11:03:00 - [21] Edited by: Dreadmuppet Four on 16/04/2008 11:03:54 [Huginn, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Heavy Missile Launcher II, Dread Guristas Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Dread Guristas Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Dread Guristas Scourge Heavy Missile Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I edit: plus drones
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.04.16 11:51:00 - [22] I'm thinking of getting one myself, but the idea is to mainly use it in a sheild-extended setup and use it for gatecamping in a small gang (as a big tackler + some DPS). Does anyone have experience gatecamping in a Huggin? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.04.16 11:59:00 - [23] ok.. i have NEVER flown this fit but as i do fly the huginn i think its ok :) bit on the slow side... 2kms or so. 3x heavy t2 launchers, 3x 220 vulcan t2 mwd t2, disruptor t2, 2x web t2, 2x lse t2 2x pdu t2, dcu t2 2x extender rigs the fit i fly personally i will not post on the forums... ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.04.16 12:09:00 - [24] Originally by: Riho ok.. i have NEVER flown this fit but as i do fly the huginn i think its ok :) bit on the slow side... 2kms or so. 3x heavy t2 launchers, 3x 220 vulcan t2 mwd t2, disruptor t2, 2x web t2, 2x lse t2 2x pdu t2, dcu t2 2x extender rigs the fit i fly personally i will not post on the forums... Was precisely what I had in mind for gatecamping except the second web thrown out for a sensor booster... Should be rather effective at catching people at gates - if I run the numbers, it should last over a minute under sentries provided you start off with full shields, enough to tackle in a gang situation even with sentries primarying you or solo gank a hauler and loot it before you start taking armour/structure damage. Ah, well, I'll just have to try it out and see . Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.04.16 12:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Riho ok.. i have NEVER flown this fit but as i do fly the huginn i think its ok :) bit on the slow side... 2kms or so. 3x heavy t2 launchers, 3x 220 vulcan t2 mwd t2, disruptor t2, 2x web t2, 2x lse t2 2x pdu t2, dcu t2 2x extender rigs the fit i fly personally i will not post on the forums... Was precisely what I had in mind for gatecamping except the second web thrown out for a sensor booster... Should be rather effective at catching people at gates - if I run the numbers, it should last over a minute under sentries provided you start off with full shields, enough to tackle in a gang situation even with sentries primarying you or solo gank a hauler and loot it before you start taking armour/structure damage. Ah, well, I'll just have to try it out and see . 2 webs minimum on a huginn/rapier drop a warp disruptor before the web and let your friends deal whit warp disruption ---------------------------------- Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
NeoNeTiC Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.04.16 13:25:00 - [26] The beauty of the Huginn lies in its versatility. You can fit it in a dozen ways, filling gaps in your gangs layout. I consider Quote: Highs: 3x 180mm AC with Barrage / 3x Heavy Launcher II's with Navy Missiles Meds: MWD, Point, 2x web, 2x LSE Lows: 2x overdrive, Istab/PDU (depending on skills and implants) Rigs: 2x Polycarbs Drones: 3x Valkyrie II + 2x Hobgoblin II a standard allround fit, despite some people might argue about the 2nd Polycarb vs. a shield kinetic hardener or the drones. ;3 If your gang needs a fast-locking ship switch out one or two LSE and/or the point and fit 2x Sensor Booster II's with Targeting Speed Scripts. If you have lots of DPS vs large ships but lack ways to take out T2 frigs fast, consider fitting 3x Assault Missile Launcher II's instead of the Heavies or add a few Target Painters in the mix. There are plenty of possibilities. I've personally had lots of fun fitting MWD, point, web, LSE II, 2x Tracking Disruptor II to harass cruiser-sized turret ships. ;3 The only thing you should in my opinion never do is not nano it. Ever. Have fun nuking HACs, NeoNeTiC [MORTS]-Huggibear
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.04.16 15:49:00 - [27] Has any 1 ever put 2 TP on a Hug if you running in a Gang with mainly Ravens? I would think the TP boni would be nice to have with a Pack of Ravens with Rage Torps. I have tried it. Just sounds like a kewl Idea. Cuz u can still have a tank think Mids: 2 TPII 2 90%webs 2LSEII For gate camping with Ravens only!! Boo CCP!!!!
Baria Setral	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:00:00 - [28] Edited by: Baria Setral on 16/04/2008 20:01:42 Edited by: Baria Setral on 16/04/2008 20:00:25 My variation of a dual LSE fit: 2x 180 II, 1x 220 II, 3x named HMLs MWD II, WD II, 2x Web II, 2x LSE II PDU II, 2x nano II 2x auxiliary thruster rigs Fits, pg-wise, with shield upgrades IV and AWU IV. Obviously, polycarbs would be better, but way too expensive. If I wanted something more shield-ey, Rihos setup looks good. Originally by: AstroPhobic 3x 180 IIs 3x HML IIs MWD II Web IIs SB II LSE II Scram II 2x OD II Nano II Does this require shield upgrades and/or AWU V to fit?
ViperVenom Labteck Corporation LTD. Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.04.20 17:06:00 - [29] Do u think with a ACR rig (more PG) Id could fit 425ACII? Im thinking ACR rig and a Aux thrust rig.. Comments? Boo CCP!!!!
dolmant	Posted - 2008.04.21 00:00:00 - [30] Originally by: ViperVenom Do u think with a ACR rig (more PG) Id could fit 425ACII? Im thinking ACR rig and a Aux thrust rig.. Comments? i bet you could. or you could buy 2 huginns and not worry about the rigs. Generally, the increase in range you get for the 425mm is not worth it unless its your main source of dps. e.g. with the sleipnir, most people fit 220mm's because 425mm's are too hard to fit, and the dps increase is negligible, as it also reduces your all important tracking. Unless you wish to fit 3x 425mm and orbit at 14km, i would say save your cash, buy another huginn. My 2 isk



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