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![Pan Crastus Pan Crastus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/611751346/portrait?size=64)
Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.12 15:55:00 -
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Will CCP delete my d3dx*.dll now? :-(
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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![Pan Crastus Pan Crastus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/611751346/portrait?size=64)
Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.12 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 12/04/2008 13:31:48 Why would we do it the Valve way when we can do it the CCP way?
And I want to really emphasize that we're not releasing a patch which allows us to snatch this information. This information is already exposed by your operating system for good reasons (well not so good reasons to some people). We're just logging it now for information purposes rather than just discarding it.
The OS does not expose it to arbitrary "business partners" or companies whose games we play.
Not making the disclosure optional is tactless to say the least. People are reluctant to disclose personal information and that's a reasonable attitude when just about everyone tries to exploit people's "profiles" for advertising purposes.
Are you going to send us mails with "awesome" offers like recommended graphics card upgrades from your "partners"?
You would of course refrain from doing things like that even if it cost you money. Just like RMT. Oh, wait...
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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![Pan Crastus Pan Crastus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/611751346/portrait?size=64)
Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.12 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Siege If folks are really against this sort of thing, then I highly suggest to stop using the internet and cut the cord already, because it's out there much more than you know.
Just as a quick example, I run a small and meaningless website for myself. The ISP has logging and statistics I can check. It doesn't give me specifics on everybody, but in a general sense I can find out about my visitors...... -what country they are in
Unless they use proxies / anonymizers.
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-what OS they use
Unless they obfuscate or remove their User-Agent string (very easy) and have router or something that doesn't allow remote OS fingerprinting.
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-what browser they use
Extremely easy to avoid.
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-your IP address
Same as country.
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-what search engine they used to find me -anything they were linked to me from -what words they used in a search engine
Referer headers can be faked easily as well.
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-how many added me to their favorites
blocking favicon access is easy too
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-what plug-ins the browsers support.
If they allow the browser to disclose it.
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And that's just if you visit my website, which has no significance to it at all. If you ever go to microsofts website for a windows update, prepare for a full probing of your software for valdity and proof of registration.
Measure up to the best, not the worst.
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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![Pan Crastus Pan Crastus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/611751346/portrait?size=64)
Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.12 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Siege
Of course, I would assume that anybody who knows all of this already.... would most likely not be too worried about CCP trying to find out their graphics card. Wouldn't the same software and techniques work in both situations?
Nope, custom spyware requires custom countermeasures and I'm sure CCP would forbid that explicitly as well ...
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![Pan Crastus Pan Crastus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/611751346/portrait?size=64)
Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.14 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kharadran Sullath
Originally by: Thorradin The EULA already states that CCP may collect data from you:
D. Software Updates CCP may from time to time update or otherwise modify the Software electronically. You hereby grant CCP permission to: (i) extract hardware system profile data from your computer; (ii) extract information from your computer's file directories pertaining to the Game and your ability to access the System; (iii) download to your computer content and Game files and any data related to the operation of the Game. The foregoing applies to any computer from which you log into the System using your Account.
And that's the end of the argument. Everyone who has spent too much time with "The Matrix", "A Scanner Darkly" and "1984" can go away.
If you EULA cheerleaders think that whatever the EULA says is the law and the end of all arguments, perhaps you should tell CCP to put something like "... and the right to delete vital system files from your computer" in the EULA ...
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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