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Ayr Lin
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:00:00 -
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So I have I guess a few different questions about carriers.
1. Can Carriers dock? 2. Carriers cant go into highsec but can they go into 0.4 systems? 3. If carriers cannot dock what does a pilot do if he wants to fly well say for example a battleship? Where does he leave it?
Thanks!
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Conjure
Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:04:00 -
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1. Yes, but not Mothership Carriers 2. .4 isnt high sec 3. They can. If it were a mothership they would leave it in a POS. ----------
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente The White Mantle
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:04:00 -
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1 yes 2 yeas but not just 0.4, anything under 0.5 3 they can dock...
You thinking of mother ships the Tier 2 Carriers --------------------
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ayr Lin So I have I guess a few different questions about carriers.
1. Can Carriers dock? 2. Carriers cant go into highsec but can they go into 0.4 systems? 3. If carriers cannot dock what does a pilot do if he wants to fly well say for example a battleship? Where does he leave it?
Thanks!
yes yes and below. bad qeustion or repli. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente The White Mantle
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Conjure 1. Yes, but not Mothership Carriers 2. .4 isnt high sec 3. They can. If it were a mothership they would leave it in a POS.
JYNX, YOU CAN@T TALK NOW!!!!
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Conjure
Killson Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:09:00 -
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well A. we didnt say the same EXACT thing B. I posted first C. mkaY? ----------
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Ayr Lin
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:15:00 -
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Ok so now another round of questions. I am in a small corp, and am thinking about starting an to train for a carrier, and getting one around December of this year. How vulnerable is a carrier?
Assuming its well fitted and with fighter drones, if I happen to be roaming around .4 space is a single BS/BC/C/or Frigate going to be able to slaughter by billion isk investment?
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Technovar
Gallente Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ayr Lin Ok so now another round of questions. I am in a small corp, and am thinking about starting an to train for a carrier, and getting one around December of this year. How vulnerable is a carrier?
Assuming its well fitted and with fighter drones, if I happen to be roaming around .4 space is a single BS/BC/C/or Frigate going to be able to slaughter by billion isk investment?
Single? What is this "single" we speak of? Sure, if they stay alone, you're fine. If, as in most cases, they're not alone, they may well gank you, or hotdrop a few caps on you just to make sure. Don't fly your carrier unsupported. There is no solo OMGWTFBBQmobile, and there shouldn't be - those that have been such things in the past have been pretty regularly rebalanced, so it should be clear that that's the design intention. If you want to fly in lowsec alone, fly what you are absolutely willing to lose every time you take it out. If that means frigates, that's what you fly until you have lots of disposable income.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ayr Lin Assuming its well fitted and with fighter drones, if I happen to be roaming around .4 space is a single BS/BC/C/or Frigate going to be able to slaughter by billion isk investment?
Depends how well-fited you are, and how experienced they are.
Assuming you fit "all T2/capital modules, T1 rigs" for tank, one single enemy battleship has absolutely no chance to bring you down... however, it COULD probably kill all your fighters and drones (very slowly, and not very likely) with a lot of patience. Two or three battleships might still not break your tank (depends on fit), but they can certainly wipe out your fighters/drones. Encounter a gang of 4 or 5 battleships, and you might have a serious problem already.
Problem is, gangs of 20+ in lowsec are not that uncommon, ESPECIALLY when somebody pins down a carrier (and a single HIC can be fited for a "good enough" tank, enough to call for backup before you can destroy it).
Moral of the story : solo carrier = almost certain death.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 13/04/2008 23:36:28 Little bit of a stupid question here as well - one would have thought I would have picked this up by now, but it's never been made clear to me.
Is it possible to assemble the "smallest" (and I use that term loosely) capital ships (carriers, dreadnoughts) inside a station? I always thought since they were able to dock, it would make sense. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:39:00 -
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If you can dock it, it means you can exit from it inside a station, means you can package it, means you can assemble it too. How else do you think people are trading carriers and dreads on the market ?
That, plus the fact you can just jump on SiSi, buy a capital ship for 100 ISK, and assemble it in the station 
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:50:00 -
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Bah, I said "assemble", when I should have said "manufacture". I forgot that "assemble" means something slightly different in EVE, in that you can package ships. Schoolboy error. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.13 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Ayr Lin Assuming its well fitted and with fighter drones, if I happen to be roaming around .4 space is a single BS/BC/C/or Frigate going to be able to slaughter by billion isk investment?
Moral of the story : solo carrier = almost certain death.
Carry something other than just fighters... or don't, so I can solo tackle in an AF since the sig radius on it is too small for fighters to hit when it's flying around you with an afterburner  ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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Achran Dexx
Caldari CompleXion Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.14 00:05:00 -
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What is up with all these new guys heading for carriers? Unless you're getting a second account, would you want to pay for almost a year just to fly a big ship, and do nothing else in the process? How are you going to earn money, buy the skills etc just to fly those things? Jesus christ.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.14 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Bah, I said "assemble", when I should have said "manufacture". I forgot that "assemble" means something slightly different in EVE, in that you can package ships. Schoolboy error.
Oh... that ? Yeah. Carriers and dread should be manufacturable in 0.4 or below NPC station factory lines, unless they're bugged (again). or unless somebody recently decided they should no longer be manufacturable there
For supercaps though (motherships, titans), you do need a 0.0 POS in a system you have sov 1 or higher.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.14 01:49:00 -
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Good, it seems like I CAN build carriers and dreadnoughts in low-sec, when I get the materials and BPs required for doing so. I was, incidentally, aware of the requirements for building supercapitals - although that's only the logistical requirements, and not counting the ammount of materials, the cost of the BPOs, and the ammount of SECRECY one requires for such an endeavour  ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.04.14 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Problem is, gangs of 20+ in lowsec are not that uncommon, ESPECIALLY when somebody pins down a carrier (and a single HIC can be fited for a "good enough" tank, enough to call for backup before you can destroy it).
Moral of the story : solo carrier = almost certain death.
Oh yeah. Most people, if they can pin a Carrier, will be screaming like banshees into their corp and intel channels, and they WILL get support, and lots of it. Everyone wants to be on a Carrier killmail.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.14 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Originally by: Akita T
Problem is, gangs of 20+ in lowsec are not that uncommon, ESPECIALLY when somebody pins down a carrier (and a single HIC can be fited for a "good enough" tank, enough to call for backup before you can destroy it).
Moral of the story : solo carrier = almost certain death.
Oh yeah. Most people, if they can pin a Carrier, will be screaming like banshees into their corp and intel channels, and they WILL get support, and lots of it. Everyone wants to be on a Carrier killmail.
Especially if they're not station tanking.
I always seem to point them when everyone is offline or 15-20 jumps away  ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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