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Seetesh
Caldari
Pixels Docks
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:22:00 -
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Im looking for constructive feedback on a cloaking field dedicated ship that would cloak a small fleet within a small spherical radius. I can understand their being alot of problems with it but im curious.
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Opertone
Caldari
Simtech Productions
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:16:00 -
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you can be in two positions in EVE
at a certain object / planet / moon / station / gate
at a random location in space
which means that with a help of a fleet cloak your fleet can cloak forever... it might be an option
but massive effects can have a negative impact on the gameplay experience
imagine a ship that can repair all ships in 50 km radius - too good
permacloaking fleet in the middle of hostile space - way too good
there is a problem of solo afk cloaker alts who 1) spy 2) decloak randomly and kill a target
this ruins the gameplay for the mains... alts do not care
a cloaking fleet can sit in the home system forever... simply waiting while the other part of the world goes to bed to take the advantage
cloak on no specialised ships is a curse... and has to be nerfed, for example cloaked ships offline their guns... so that they can not annoy people with cloaking / decloaking threat
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Zaiyo Modi
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Posted - 2008.04.15 21:42:00 -
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"you can be in two positions in EVE"
How about a ship that enables a group cloak when fleet enters gang-warp, hiding the fleet in warp space only? :D
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Reggie Stoneloader
Teikoku Trade Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Zaiyo Modi
"you can be in two positions in EVE"
How about a ship that enables a group cloak when fleet enters gang-warp, hiding the fleet in warp space only? :D
That would be sweet. Keeps you off the scanners and keeps people from seeing you come in, then you all uncloak at once, in the middle of the battle... Delicious. I would like to see this sort of thing more often, and could imagine a "Command Destroyer", a little nugget of a ship that can fit various specialty gang mods, like this warp-cloak thingy.
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Lego Maniac
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.04.16 06:48:00 -
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"Warp field stabilized."
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Zaiyo Modi
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Posted - 2008.04.16 07:44:00 -
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A variant to get to cloak enmasse while warping, would be to have a fleet of ships come out of warp and each ship will still be cloaked until it chooses to make a manouver, or perhaps a 30sec/1 min delay.
I wonder how lag would sort out if 100 ships was warping in on 100 other ships this way, and gave the server the time to prepare or something.
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Zartach Tzarszh
Minmatar
The Royal Engineers
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Posted - 2008.04.16 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zaiyo Modi
A variant to get to cloak enmasse while warping, would be to have a fleet of ships come out of warp and each ship will still be cloaked until it chooses to make a manouver, or perhaps a 30sec/1 min delay.
I wonder how lag would sort out if 100 ships was warping in on 100 other ships this way, and gave the server the time to prepare or something.
As far as i know, cloaked ships are "not there" but as everyone will still uncloak at the same time that will change nothing. Lag will spike later rather than when moving into grid.
But going in to grid will still lag as the fleet waiting will be uncloaked most likely no?
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Rettermal
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.04.16 08:16:00 -
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As long as it had a timer....and a re-activation delay...nice idea
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ridik ulass
Cosa Nostra.
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Posted - 2008.04.16 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zaiyo Modi
I wonder how lag would sort out if 100 ships was warping in on 100 other ships this way, and gave the server the time to prepare or something.
if this is to be..limit it to only members in squad, this will cut them numbers down.
and my question would then be this, what if someone has a "gang assist warp cloak alt" and a neutblasterthron with a cloak or a domi with a cloak or any ship that really shouldn't cloak in genral ....now the said ship can now cloak ...warp while cloaked and be a major pvp pwn ship
i smell unbalancing..good ideaish
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ezraniel
Caldari
An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2008.04.16 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rettermal
As long as it had a timer....and a re-activation delay...nice idea
tbh this could be a new covert Ops ship.
yes i know normally all cov.ops ships have a cloak of their own but this would allow a few ships like normal ceptors etc to move in gang with a cov.ops/black ops gang and thus sa***uard the cov.ops fleet from being probed out cause the ceptors can't cloak or I don't know whatnot.
I'd say 5 minute cloaking time, on a 3 minute recharge time.
bubble would be a good .... 1 KM? in size. basicly PoS bubble but instead of it giving a shield it hides you (so not cloak every individual ship, just remove those ships from being probed out.
So my idea/twist on this would be to greate a anti-probe ship that hides everyone in its bubble from being probed out. only way to probe this out for instance would be with the normal radar or whatever probes, which take longer then recon probes.
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Zaiyo Modi
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:53:00 -
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My yearn for some basic sci-fi plausability would favour the thought that a ship powerful enought to cloak other ship would be of a semi-agile capital ship, that is not cheap as a battleship or easily trained as a logistics ship. I guess I like to see more specialized skills and ships. :P
I would love to see captial ship fleets move about without their cyno drop ability. Looks like a glorious image to me at least. I understand that any ideas would have to be evaluated properly, I just hope ideas are examined by ccp, so that we do not have to make serious effort to campaign for an idea within the community to impress ccp to really concider it.
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