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Aldeskwatso
New Horizon Enterprises
Beyond All Bounds
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Posted - 2012.02.28 13:21:00 -
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Grinding roids for a year and offline leveling... ouch!
I think you got delt a bad hand when it came to joining corporations.
Figuring out what you want and then finding some people you can get
along with is probably the most important thing you can do in this game.
A lot of people quit the game because they don't dare put themselves into
situations that might put them to risk. The trouble with that is that they are
very likely to fall into a grind. People around them lose interest in the grinder
so the grinder starts to get isolated as well. Very little input and challenge
comes towards the grinder and boredom sets in. The grinder becomes less
and less motivated to the point they want to quit. It's a downward spiral fueled
by fear to fail, an unsociable personality, not knowing what your options, a fake
sense of loyalty or just plain old bad luck.
Set a goal. Break your grind any way you can. Meet some people who are more
in line with your goals and personality and don't be afraid to put yourself into
risky situations and by no means ever give up on your goals. Specially by
someone else. Challenge yourself and don't wait for others to do it for you.
If people you meet don't have a positive effect on your experience of the game
ditch em. And accept the fact that this is a multiplayer game. Meaning the social
part of it weighs in heavily on the game mechanics, specially in later stages.
When I point to the moon don't stare a my finger! |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions
Bloodbound.
351
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Posted - 2012.02.28 13:21:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote: Hands on experience in losing ships and pvp in general can teach you some great lessons. Eventually most people will start to pick up things from the experience and become better at ti.
First hand experience should always help you get a clue.
Plus when you've lost the 4th set of +5 implants you stop buying implants and wait a little longer for your skill training - but you're less paranoid about losing clones :)
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:02:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:PS... when im bored I write long pointless posts that no one wants to read :D
That was a very good post. One of the longer posts I actually read all the way through...
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Cain Blazed
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:06:00 -
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I've been where you are a couple of times. Its up and downs. when push comes to show, creating an corporation from ground zero can be tedious, especially if theres people lacking in expirience on various fields. Like creating alternative plans incase of wardecks, or just beeing attacked in a wormhole. I realised that focusing all of eve in one character was making it easy for me to be greifed thru wardecks and such. I made and trained a second character on my account. Just a basic pve character that could explore and join events for fun. I realised also theres alot of stuff happening in the universe of eve. Just look at eve radio, incursions, cosmos, market manipulations, stealing gankers stuff, ccp events, eve uni events and a more. For me nowadays its all about the incursions and pvp. I also have a private little corp that produces, mines and researches valuble stuff. But the main thing is the community bit. I personally choose to be a part of the community thru incursions and pvp, but when it comes to industrial and marketing, i keep it solo, just to be safe as can be in the hostile enviorment that eve is. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1122
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:14:00 -
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Start spreading out...try other things. There is a metric **** ton of stuff to do in EvE. Don't bore yourself by sticking to just one aspect of it. I have been playing for 8 years now...there are still some things I have not tried.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2903
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:16:00 -
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Actually Cain Blazed, the idiom should correctly be "when push comes to shove".
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
79
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:25:00 -
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Karintha wrote:
After 3 years of carebearing I managed to build up near 4 bill isk in assets and money by avoiding conflict
I stopped reading here... is that it?
I've been playing 5 years and I suck at the game, seriously, I die all the time, lose ships (always followed by the pod) and I've probably got 6bil floating around if I bothered selling crap I wasn't using\actually sold the junk I'd "bought because I can turn a quick profit on it"
Taking our two cases as the only points of reference, this conclusively proves that losing ships and doing PvP makes you more isk (even after losses) than being a CB and hiding from the good fights. |
Cain Blazed
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:40:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Actually Cain Blazed, the idiom should correctly be "when push comes to shove".
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1075
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:50:00 -
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This reveals the wisdom of having a tutorial now where you end up losing your ship.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
adopt
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
269
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Posted - 2012.02.28 15:01:00 -
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4 billion in 3 years... jesus son have you ever undocked?
Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. |
BeforetheStorm90
The Sagan Clan
Pax Romana Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.02.28 15:46:00 -
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adopt wrote:4 billion in 3 years... jesus son have you ever undocked?
Forget undocking, has he logged on? Pretty easy to make that in station trading in a fraction of the time.
I suggest doing more google/forums research. That alone would of informed of the need for a POS in WH living.
So yes. You are doing it wrong. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
327
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Posted - 2012.02.28 16:21:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:If you only managed to scrape together 4bn after three years, you're either doing it extremely wrong - or mining extremely right...
Not really, when I mined I never made less than 1.2B a month. Then I quit it to do more profitable stuff.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
327
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Posted - 2012.02.28 16:29:00 -
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Karintha wrote:hi community < story > Help. 
Sadly it's not the community you need help from, but yourself.
In a sandbox game you set your objectives first, then act accordingly to achieve them.
See, many fine peeps here suggested you take a cheap frig and learn to pew pew.
They are indeed the "community" answering you but it's a PvP community and of course for them it's obvious to suggest ships pew pew.
What you need instead is to sit down and find your objectives in yourself. It might or might not involve having to learn to ship pew pew.
Once you decided what you want to do once you "grow adult" in EvE, then eventually ask the community how to best achieve it.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
746
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Posted - 2012.02.28 16:44:00 -
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3 years and that's all you managed to achieve?
My recommendation is you stop playing EvE and find a more suitable game.
84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.02.28 17:01:00 -
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Gordon Fell wrote:Kazacy wrote:you're doing wrong ofc.
1. buy at least 10 t1 frigs (better 20) with cheap fits. i recommend you to try rifter, incursus, punisher, merlin all good frigs.
2. go roam lowsec solo (solo is the key word here).
3.you will lose alot of them but this is normal.
4. profit
Not to mention this kind of post is getting old, this seems to be said a lot. Yet I don't understand why losing frigs without a clue helps you get one.
for the same reason that sometimes people that are afraid of heights go sky diving, because they man up and are like F THIS SPIT!.
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Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
368
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Posted - 2012.02.28 18:25:00 -
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3 years and only 4 bil in stuff? what were u doing, lvl 2 missions?????????????? I had over that in 5 months. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
226
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Posted - 2012.02.28 18:26:00 -
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EVE in not the game for you
Pandas thata way
CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
61
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Posted - 2012.02.28 19:15:00 -
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I think we have one rare quasi-consensus here : EVE is probably not the right game for your play style.
I wish to pass that message minus any form of insult or bullying :p
A lot of people come to EVE hoping this will be some sort of space sim, maybe space colonization-ish game. Unfortunately, it's not a common type out there. Maybe try some risk taking? After all, if you quit, what is there to loose? Maybe you will enjoy living dangerously for a while :)
Best of luck finding your virtual home!
"It is when I think about meaning that I lose what I meant to say."
-á-á-á -Swooshie |
Aquila Draco
123
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Posted - 2012.02.28 19:26:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:You mine and dock all day and wonder why you are bored?
You
are
doing
it
wrong
This is EVE. You are supposed to go out and explore everything, shoot everyone and steal anything that is not welded down. You first accomplish this by undocking and start acting without fear. No complaining, no whining, no rage quitting when someone drops 10 titans on your vigil.
The problem is that you have a loser attitude instead of a positive learning one. You are doomed unless you change yourself.
And you dont even log into the game. (You can't do it without avatar.)
And without playing the game you are giving ppl a lessons about how to play the game? 
Everybody need to play the game the way you would play it if you were playing it? or the way you want they play it?
Grow up.
If he loves industry he will do industry.  |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.02.28 20:38:00 -
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adopt wrote:4 billion in 3 years... jesus son have you ever undocked?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
+1 |
Cambarus
Baros Reloaded
126
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Posted - 2012.02.28 20:47:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:3 years and only 4 bil in stuff? what were u doing, lvl 2 missions?????????????? I had over that in 5 months.
I once made 4 bil in a little under 24 hours, I really need to start running incursions again
As for the OP:
Learn to pvp, do so without having something other than your ships on the line, THEN focus on going out to WH space. If you try to do something that entails holding space, without first having a sound understanding of pvp, you will fail horribly, and will be bitter about it from losing whatever you invested. |
Cipher Jones
340
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Posted - 2012.02.28 20:52:00 -
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Jovan Geldon wrote:Karintha wrote:I hate risk EVE is not the game for you then. Simple as.
If its a sandbox you can choose the level of risk vs. reward you desire.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
228
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Posted - 2012.02.28 20:54:00 -
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OP ****.
Damn nature, you scary! |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
168
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Posted - 2012.02.28 20:55:00 -
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If the forum is your saviour you are doomed. People talking out of both sides of thier mouth, hypocrites galore.
"EVE is a sandbox, EVE is what you make it"
"You don't get EVE". "You suck at EVE"
I can't be bothered to lie to you. I've been palying for 6+ and I've never figured out an effective way to repell griefers. No matter what you do, you are no longer doing what you planned to do and were logged in to do and are now entertaining attention whoring griefers. It's like someone threw you in to a McDonalds Playland and told you to babysit a bunch of snot nosed brats when all you wanted was a ******* hamburger. |
FilterDecay
Tsunami Cartel
Unprovoked Aggression
2
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Posted - 2012.02.28 21:09:00 -
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you should have WAY more then 4 billion in assets after 3 years unless you are plexing your way thru. It just goes to show no risk no reward. |
Steveir
Hagukure
Empire Industry
34
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Posted - 2012.02.29 20:12:00 -
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Having been wardec on a number of occasion, I can understand that it gets in the way of "normal" Eve enjoyment pretty quickly. I have tried loading cheap ship and fighting back, but at the end of the day, once it has gone on for awhile it seem very common that players start leaving the corp/alliance.
Don't get me wrong, I like that Eve can be a scary place and I wouldn't nurf wardecs; however wardec has the same problem that losec has.Those that engauge in Wardecs (and losec) are good at what they do and specced for it. You can only loose against these dudes for so long before you run out of isk, or stop enjoying getting your ass handed to you in less than 30 secs. Personally, I would just nerf offensive DPS from the aggressor corp by 50% to balance the odds a bit.
Anyway, back to OP; I would suggest that you find a nice corp alliance that would alllow you to get back to whatever in Eve that you enjoy doing. Obviously being in an NCP corp would avoid wardec and having a few ingame friends would get you some group play, incursion would get you some pick-up groups; and Fraction warfare sounds like its about to get a big re-jig in the next expansion.
Finally, in your shoes, I would just enjoy what you enjoy in the game, and I would refuse to quit because some idiot is giving me a hard time. The truth of most MMOs is that corp/ guilds come and go as "leaders" move on. |
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