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Marcel Aubin
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:41:00 -
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Augnais, Algintal Constellation, Sinq Laison
Barely tolerated in the Federation, the Thukker community in Algintal has long been a source of consternation among the area's citizens. Many see them as simple vagrants and criminals operating a variety of shady interests on the fringes of legality. Places such as the infamous 'Nickel and Dime Store' have often been cited as proof of the Thukker's criminal activity but little solid proof has ever come to light.
The Federation has long ignored the issue but are now facing increasing pressure after a series of violent incidents have occurred over the past few weeks. Smugglers operating under the moniker 'Maazain'kahl' appear to be fighting a mini turf war with the Serpentis gangs that have long used the area as a staging point for their Federation narcotics racket. Links between the Thukker presence in Algintal and this new group have become more evident and many fingers are pointing at the Nickel and Dime Store as the source of the recent disturbances. While the Store has a reputation as a fencing and laundering operation, it's activities seemed to attract little police attention while the larger Serpentis problem persisted. Now with gang warfare spilling out into the open, several voices have called for the Navy to act.
Concerned local citizen Marcel Desperey said "It's disgusting, these Thukker caravans move here and set up shop, stealing money out of the pockets of hard working citizens like me. They don't pay taxes and they leave an awful mess when they leave. I think the Federation should do something about this lot immediately."
Federation Navy public relations director Dultiver Doos released a statement saying ôWhile we understand the concerns of all citizens of the Algintal constellation, there is no conclusive proof that the Thukker presence there is engaging in illicit activities or that recent disturbances emanate from that community. We are monitoring the situation and will act should we have reasonable grounds for suspicion. Furthermore we would like to reiterate that we believe the threat posed by Serpentis far outweighs the nuisance caused by a few space-bound vagabonds.ö
So, who are the Thukkers in Algintal and what do they do there?
Sociologist Sebastian Cuillard had this to say; ôThe Thukker are a nomadic tribe, often wandering from place to place in 'caravans' numbering thousands of tribal members. It is certainly unusual for them to stay in one place for any length of time so it is interesting they maintain a permanent presence in Algintal. Their activities are numerous, they are often seen in the Municipal Junkyard in Deltole scavenging pieces of junk and scrap which are often sold in the bazaar of the Nickel and Dime store in Augnais. While they often engage in illicit practices, they are rarely violent. If this situation has changed then I would suspect they have been placed under threatö
In conclusion, opinion appears to be divided on the subject. While many would be glad to see the back of the Thukkers in the Federation, others have claimed that greater cultural awareness and tolerance would breed a more open relationship. One thing is certain, it certainly appears that an increase in violence in what is an already volatile region will help nobody's cause and this reporter add's his voice to those calling for the Federation to act and restore order.
This is Marcel Audin reporting for The Scope in Algintal.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:53:00 -
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This is concerning. Mixed Metaphor will send an exploratory force of combat-ready ships to investigate this situation within the next 48 hours, to sa***uard Federation interests in the area. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |

Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:05:00 -
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*sigh*
... It's always upsetting when one's friends quarrel.
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Baninez Yarm
Dawn's Light Caravan
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:42:00 -
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We in the Dawn's Light Caravan find it upsetting that our Brothers and our Friends have comes to blows in this instance but it has been known to happen from time to time. If either side would like a mediator we would be glad to add a stop on this journey of the Caravan in the Algintal constellation. We would also like to take this opportunity to express concern at the recent level of anti-Thukker sentiment coming from the supposedly free thinking peoples of the Gallente Federation.
--- I against my brothers, I and my brothers against my cousins, I and my brothers and my cousins against the stars. |

Hjalin Saa'lek
Mazaain'kahl
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Posted - 2008.04.16 17:47:00 -
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We have no need nor desire for Federal interference and any attempt by Mr Ixiris or any other to invade our territory will be met with fierce resistance.
For too long galactic media outlets have waged a campaign of racism and scapegoating against the Thukker people.
For too long we have been treated as vagrants and tramps to be moved on at any opportunity whenever public opinion needs massaging.
For too long we have endured the victimisation reserved for the worst criminals when we simply wish to remain free and unchained by the rampant regulation imposed on space that by rights should belong to us all.
We are here and we will remain. This is our home. You may loathe us but you will have to either tolerate us or destroy us.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.04.16 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek We have no need nor desire for Federal interference and any attempt by Mr Ixiris or any other to invade our territory will be met with fierce resistance.
Sir, you might take note of the location in question:
Augnais, Algintal Constellation, Sinq Laison
This is Federation territory, we are a Federation paramilitary and this little turf war happens to be happening on our turf - right here in MXD's base of operations, Sinq Laison. "Your territory" indeed.
Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek We are here and we will remain. This is our home. You may loathe us but you will have to either tolerate us or destroy us.
It might be your home, but it's also the home of countless Federation citizens. Besides, the MXD force will only arrive to do a sweep of the area for entities directly hostile to the Federation. If you have no crimes to hide and are not engaged in violence, you have absolutely nothing to fear. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |

Vlomini Drayk
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.17 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek We have no need nor desire for Federal interference and any attempt by Mr Ixiris or any other to invade our territory will be met with fierce resistance.
For too long galactic media outlets have waged a campaign of racism and scapegoating against the Thukker people.
For too long we have been treated as vagrants and tramps to be moved on at any opportunity whenever public opinion needs massaging.
For too long we have endured the victimisation reserved for the worst criminals when we simply wish to remain free and unchained by the rampant regulation imposed on space that by rights should belong to us all.
We are here and we will remain. This is our home. You may loathe us but you will have to either tolerate us or destroy us.
For too long you have held onto a victim mentality. |

Scagga Laebetrovo
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Posted - 2008.04.17 01:45:00 -
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*Chuckles* I thought they'd never realise it. |

Hjalin Saa'lek
Mazaain'kahl
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Posted - 2008.04.17 08:58:00 -
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Mr Ixiris, I will address your statement. Firstly you will of course note the implied threat in your previous words. I am sure you can understand that we are subject to countless seemingly benign military exercises that often become mass displacements of people and raids on our assets simply because public opinion has decreed we are a 'threat'. You do not represent any official authority and as such you'll be treated as another vigilante group until you prove otherwise.
If you simply wish to see for yourself the situation in Algintal then I will be happy to meet you and take you on a tour. You will see hard working Thukker's who have built businesses and homes in the harshest of environments. You will also see the Serpentis attacking our scavenging teams without warning despite the historical friendship between Thukker and the men of Sarpati. If we are to be painted as villains then so be it, we are well used to such portrayals.
Quote: For too long you have held onto a victim mentality.
As for you, save your snide comments worm. You speak on what you don't understand.
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Karanth
Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.04.18 10:29:00 -
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Aside from past enmity, is there any reason that both sides are not busy working together to destroy the Serpentis threat present in the area?
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Mr Reeth
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.04.18 10:48:00 -
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The Thukkers will always be hated by the Federation and the Republic. The governments feel threatened by their freedom and the citizens are jealous of it. They are perhaps the most free people in the cluster. |

Hjalin Saa'lek
Mazaain'kahl
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Posted - 2008.04.18 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth Aside from past enmity, is there any reason that both sides are not busy working together to destroy the Serpentis threat present in the area?
Frankly, neither side would find 'working' with the other particularly attractive. The Federation would be seen to be working with a people who are widely perceived as criminals and vagrants. We, on the other hand, would worry what would be required of us should we receive their assistance.
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Mr Reeth
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.04.18 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek We, on the other hand, would worry what would be required of us should we receive their assistance.
Somebody give this man a prize!
This is the kind of stuff that makes me really like the Thukkers. The Thukkers are one of only two tribes that have the insight to see that Gallente gifts arenÆt free, and the wisdom and will to reject them.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.04.18 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek Mr Ixiris, I will address your statement. Firstly you will of course note the implied threat in your previous words. I am sure you can understand that we are subject to countless seemingly benign military exercises that often become mass displacements of people and raids on our assets simply because public opinion has decreed we are a 'threat'.
I can assure you - I have no aims to "displace" any people who are not violating Federation law, nor, honestly, do I have the desire, the motivation or the manpower neccessary to move millions of Thukkers. I can, however, get rid of Serpentis, and if there is a threat to Thukker citizens, I will be happy to aid you in ridding the area of it.
Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek You do not represent any official authority and as such you'll be treated as another vigilante group until you prove otherwise.
Mixed Metaphor is a sanctioned Federal paramilitary in close co-operation with the Federal Navy. Check with the Navy if you so wish.
Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek If you simply wish to see for yourself the situation in Algintal then I will be happy to meet you and take you on a tour. You will see hard working Thukker's who have built businesses and homes in the harshest of environments. You will also see the Serpentis attacking our scavenging teams without warning despite the historical friendship between Thukker and the men of Sarpati.
Excellent. E-mail me and we can set up an appointment - I'd be very eager to see all these, and, if you so wish it, to co-operate with you in the removal of Serpentis forces from the immediete area.
Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek If we are to be painted as villains then so be it, we are well used to such portrayals.
I am quite familiar with the largely inaccurate portrayal of Thukkers in the tabloid media. Allow me to assure you that I only wish to rid the Algintal area of these sporadic pockets of violence which are so often deleterious to the smooth operation of business and trade in the local area. If that can be done without Thukker casualties, then I am only too happy to co-operate with you. |

Hjalin Saa'lek
Mazaain'kahl
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Posted - 2008.04.24 17:43:00 -
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With respect, Mr Ixiris. If you wish to fight the Serpentis in Algintal you are welcome to do so but you will do it without us. Collaboration with Federal forces, such as you claim to represent, would in the long run be far more damaging to our interests than a few skirmishes with drug runners.
Do not mistake us for a maligned minority that requires protection.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.25 02:40:00 -
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What a bunch of mother Thukkers.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.04.25 02:48:00 -
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Istvaan, you quite inappropriate Thukker, we've already done this Thukker of a joke to death, and it wasn't funny then. What makes you think that the joke will be funny now, Thukker? ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |

Hjalin Saa'lek
Mazaain'kahl
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Posted - 2008.04.26 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu What a bunch of mother Thukkers.
Hilarious.
Watch who you insult with your childish and cliched puns worm.
I'd recommend you get yourself back to the creche now or your mother will be awful worried.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.26 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu What a bunch of mother Thukkers.
Watch who you insult with your childish and cliched puns worm.
I'd recommend you get yourself back to the creche now or your mother will be awful worried.
Oh come on! I'm half Thukker and even I think that's an oldie-goldie!
And for another joke, carry on insulting Isty 
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.04.26 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek Hilarious.
Watch who you insult with your childish and cliched puns worm.
I'd recommend you get yourself back to the creche now or your mother will be awful worried.
Word to the wise:
Don't step up to Istvaan unless you can muster the-... wait, no, screw that. Don't step up to Istvaan. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |

Hjalin Saa'lek
Mazaain'kahl
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Posted - 2008.04.27 07:57:00 -
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*Sigh*
So the established order is to be groups making facile puns on a people's similarity to a swear word?
One would imagine anyone considering themselves Thukker, even 'half' so, would be thoroughly bored by a joke repeated again and again and again. Obviously not.
Consider me chastised.
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Baninez Yarm
Dawn's Light Caravan
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Posted - 2008.04.27 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Baninez Yarm on 27/04/2008 10:18:28
Originally by: Hjalin Saa'lek *Sigh*
Ah my brother. Do not let their words incite further hatred in your breast. If the price for freedom is a few carelessly chosen words thrown in our direction from time to time then it is a price I for one am glad to pay. Rise above them dear brother and assend to the pathway of stars once again.
--- I against my brothers, I and my brothers against my cousins, I and my brothers and my cousins against the stars. |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Baninez Yarm
Ah my brother. Do not let their words incite further hatred in your breast. If the price for freedom is a few carelessly chosen words thrown in our direction from time to time then it is a price I for one am glad to pay. Rise above them dear brother and assend to the pathway of stars once again.
Yeah, what he said. Nothing worse than a breast full of hatred.
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:39:00 -
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Are you quite sure about that, Istvaan? |

Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:48:00 -
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Okay, maybe there's one thing worse. |

Fredior Khan'Sebies
Minmatar Mikramurka Solace
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Posted - 2008.04.29 22:12:00 -
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I am saddened that our more mobile, perhaps wiser, cousins are so lambasted in the media. Unfortunately, this is a stereotype that is in many ways encouraged by the Republic to diminish potential competitors in secular power.
Personally, I take comfort in knowing that they are out there. Because their lifestyle challenges the notion of national borders and repeatedly shows the ultimate futility in the maintenance of borders under the aegis of CONCORD, they are harrassed, the same sad and utterly *******s statements are trotted out for publication, pitting the "average citizen" against "the enlightened elite."
Although contradictory to the supposed aims of academia, the "average citizen" is often percieved as having greater authority by his peers. Thus, a more analytical response from the ivory tower elite is often meaningless, except to make it seem more "balanced." In the end though, this type of reporting sets up a conflict not just between Thukker and authorities, but between the critical mass of "average" citizens and specialists, which neutralizes the academic viewpoint.
The very structure of this article reveals the aim of the article: to perpetuate the stereotypes to raise tensions and legitimize actions that otherwise wouldn't be tolerated.
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