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Gorbo	Posted - 2004.04.22 02:16:00 - [1] uh on the topic of kestrels shooting indys with cruise missiles and having a friend pick up the loot, ccp could fix that by puting in a anti-missile system that is laser or ammo based instead of missile, then they mount long range versions these on the sentry guns near high-sec gates, but not in sec ratings below .7 so you could still do it there to make the pirates happy Keep Flaming, Im reloading
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.04.22 02:46:00 - [2] Of make it so an industrial can fit a launcher to fire defenders, of course you'd have to fix these first... Convert Stations
Sara Kerrigan	Posted - 2004.04.22 02:56:00 - [3] Been hearing a lot about frigs taking down indys in high sec space, with a friend picking up loots. I recall in the past, that sentry guns would shoot down all hostile missiles instantly. Is that no longer the case? ______________ The Kerrigan Chronicles
Fuse	Posted - 2004.04.22 02:58:00 - [4] Cool it would be funny to see indies armed with cruise missiles. A badger with a cruise missile. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you.
Zasra	Posted - 2004.04.22 03:04:00 - [5] Just make it so someone targeting and shooting someone (and not at war) in 1.0 space is attackable by anyone. I'd gladly sit at the popular gates popping Kestrels.. :)
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.04.22 03:08:00 - [6] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/04/2004 03:11:12 That's why I specified launchers to fire defenders as to have them tweaked to only being able to fit a launcher with a fast RoF and no capacity for heavy or cruise missiles. Convert Stations
Mephisha	Posted - 2004.04.22 09:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Zasra Just make it so someone targeting and shooting someone (and not at war) in 1.0 space is attackable by anyone. I'd gladly sit at the popular gates popping Kestrels.. :) That's no solution because concord will gank them faster than you ever could. In fact they expect to loose the kestrell ------------------------------------------------ I have seen carebears with claws and PvP-Lords hiding in high sec space. So AWAY with all those terms. We are ALL citizens of EVE.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.04.22 09:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Sara Kerrigan Been hearing a lot about frigs taking down indys in high sec space, with a friend picking up loots. I recall in the past, that sentry guns would shoot down all hostile missiles instantly. Is that no longer the case? They do it at such close range that the sentries don't have time to blow them up. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Busko Moonwalker	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:06:00 - [9] In my opinion its a exploit. as a frig is so eze to replace And the loot you can have quite nice loot from the indys.
Dekar	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:17:00 - [10] As mentioned before, this IS an exploit, and in Shiva, the benefits of this will be reduced to 0 or something. They still would be able to grief, but then it's only the loss of indy cost. ------------------------------------------------- Lying Scumbag
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:21:00 - [11] Edited by: Pychian Vanervi on 22/04/2004 10:22:50 I have been battered at a gate in the past and it was during a war and by a scorp using cruise missiles. I survived all be it will a small amount of hull left. I am sure I was hit with more than 4 cruises. Was I just lucky or is it that my Iteron V is a bit of a harder nut to break('Cr@ck'was cencored?) than some of the other type of haulers? Surely there must be an easy way to counter act this by fitting shield mods or even smart bombs to soften the impact? ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
McWatt	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:23:00 - [12] Edited by: McWatt on 22/04/2004 10:24:37 again: the real problem is that empire space is already too safe! so: * fix security status * move experience players out of high sec (ban high end production there, close the highways) * improve ores in low sec space why can t ppl simply stop being afk while transporting their entire possesion with an indy!?!
Grimster	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:32:00 - [13] Edited by: Grimster on 22/04/2004 11:04:14 Deleted, gonna make this it's own topic.
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:32:00 - [14] Originally by: McWatt again: the real problem is that empire space is already too safe! Most of Eve is too safe. I traveled 42 jumps through 0.0 last night and got locked once. We need the enterprising few to throw a little chaos into the mix to keep things interesting. I know its not the most ideal way of making isk and will attract a lot of negative press. But like posts before this if you are happy to play afk or not prepare for such incidents then accept the conciquences. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Enforcer	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:33:00 - [15] Is it just me or is it the fashion to have an anti highway post in every thread?
Leisha Kael	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:42:00 - [16] this issue is obviously causing a lot of concern for honest, good natured game players in this community but as far as im aware still no official response from CCP or there representatives. Having lost a ship and valuable cargo to this 'legal exploit' and have the unfortunate experience to be gloated and teased at in local left a bad taste in my mouth. Hence I petitioned but was told killing with an alt in 1.0 is within the game legal parameters and therefore could not be reimbursed (not to mention this happened in the lag induced night of sunday so I wasnt aware of what had happened for 10 mins) so my questions are - 1) I understand CCP are trying to resolve this but do we have to wait for Shiva? this has been going on for months now and I wonder how many people have left the game because of this? 2) If CCP dont condone this action and feel that it is detrimental to the game experience that they are changing the game mechanics, why were we not warned? is a simple system msg too much to ask? That way at least customers know the problem has been highlighted and its being dealt with, this would also cut down on petitions and threads giving gms more time to help with other matters. 3) why wont a CCP representive comment on this matter on one of the many threads as this much air time on one subject is obviously close to eve customers hearts. 4) when was the iron curtain installed in iceland? the silence is deafening! its good to talk, communicate with your customers properly and you may find less rants on the forums, less petitions and generally a better atmosphere towards CCP. A simple system msg on a timed loop to warn of people who have bent the game mechanics so far that they need to be changed would benefit many of your customers and maybe help keep some to carry on paying your wages until you have resolved it! 'a woman is like a tea bag - you dont know how strong she is until you put her in hot water He that plants thorns must never expect to gather roses, English Proverb
McWatt	Posted - 2004.04.22 10:47:00 - [17] Edited by: McWatt on 22/04/2004 10:50:57 Originally by: Leisha Kael 2) If CCP dont condone this action and feel that it is detrimental to the game experience that they are changing the game mechanics, why were we not warned? is a simple system msg too much to ask? That way at least customers know the problem has been highlighted and its being dealt with, this would also cut down on petitions and threads giving gms more time to help with other matters. you think every ship is warned from this? Link (sorry for the RL comment, couldn t resist) so: Quote: The most common practice is for pirates to take advantage of lax security to board vessels, rough up the crew, loot the stores and flee into the night. see?!?
Pychian Vanervi	Posted - 2004.04.22 11:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Leisha Kael this issue is obviously causing a lot of concern for honest, good natured game players in this community but as far as im aware still no official response from CCP or there representatives. Having lost a ship and valuable cargo to this 'legal exploit' and have the unfortunate experience to be gloated and teased at in local left a bad taste in my mouth. Ok change the scenario slightly(and I know this is somewhat hyperthetical. Player A, decides that trade is far too free flowing in Yulai and decides on his own with is main character to disrupt as much as he can. So he kamakazi bombs all haulers that come through to the gates. He picks up none of the loot and shoots the cans destroying any chance of the irems being used by other trading. Is the above and exploit and would it recieve the same vengence as the alt and mate partnership? I believe it wouldn't be met with such harsh words but you can bet your account on it that alot would be asking for some CCP action on the matter. As I have said in my post before, if you prepare for such events then you will be less likely to be effected by them. ----------------------------- It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
Armin Chamberlain	Posted - 2004.04.22 11:56:00 - [19] No, not with the same vengeance, it is the abuse of alts thats the problem here.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.04.22 12:00:00 - [20] There is a recent thread about this here. Please discuss this there and do not start up new threads if there allready is a recent discussion about it. Thank you I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.

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