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Calderio
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.20 04:22:00 -
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I was wondering what is most impressive piece of yarrrdware that exist at CCP today. I'm working on a project to build the most awesome PC available for about 5k US. So I'm wondering:
What kind of processors does CCP use?
What kind of MOBO or brand?
What kind of RAM is most common ammount/brand?
What size hard drive is on there pc's and does it dual boot with OS's and is the drive/s setup in raid.
Whats the rpm on said drives?
Whats the OS/'s?
Is there a graphics card that you might recommend?
When is it safe to say enough is enough on case fans?
Thats about it for now. But I'm really looking for the specs to build the most beefiest piece of yarrrdware to ever sit under a desk for someones birthday present. So the question goes out to CCP and all the yarrrdware freaks, what do you use for your game development PC?
Im really pointing more towards CCP with this question as they are the resident developers.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.04.20 04:35:00 -
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Its never good to buy the most expensive stuff since you only get like a few percent extra performance for a whole lot of extra cash. Its not worth it.
I recommend the E8400 CPU, its cheap and a fantastic overclocker.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.20 04:35:00 -
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5k huh? You must be some friend.
I doubt ccp builds their own computers. I suspect they could help you with the paperwork to explain to a manager why they need a certain spec. Companies rarely have unlimited budgets unless its the freebies for testing or benchmarks.
Spend 1500-2000 on the computer. Buy 2-3 nice lcd monitors. Spend the rest on booze, girls, and a camera. That is a birthday.
A few years from now that computer will be worthless. The pictures should be as good as the day they were taken.
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2008.04.20 09:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim McGregor
Its never good to buy the most expensive stuff since you only get like a few percent extra performance for a whole lot of extra cash. Its not worth it.
Talking 'bout faction/officer stuff? 
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Max Torps
Gallente
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.20 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Spend 1500-2000 on the computer. Buy 2-3 nice lcd monitors. Spend the rest on booze, girls, and a camera. That is a birthday.
A few years from now that computer will be worthless. The pictures should be as good as the day they were taken.
This tbh. You could fork out hundreds for a really top notch graphics card for example, and 6 months down the line it's "average" with a cost to match.
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.04.20 10:01:00 -
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This reminds me of a thread in the WoW off topic forums of a kid wanting to spend 16k on a new PC. God it was so funny his idea of good was buying the biggest **** and combining it all together like 16 megabytes of ram  .
My advice: buy a PC for 1k tops for this year.
Next year buy a PC for 1k tops and see the difference every year for 5 years. Dont waste it all at once.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.20 10:26:00 -
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Spending $5k on a computer is stupid, when next year's $1k computer will outperform it.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.20 10:46:00 -
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If you want to spend it anyway, this is what a dutch computer site adviced for march for high-end game system.(note that in a month time things allready change).
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5
Cooler: Scythe Infinity SCINF-1000
Memory: OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC6400, CL4
GPU: Club3D Radeon HD 3870 X2 (1GB)
Sound: Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
HDD: 2 x Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB
Dvd: Lite-On LH-20A1S (20x)
cardreader: Apacer Embedded Card Reader 15 in 1
Case: Antec Performance One P182
PSU: Zalman ZM600-HP (600W)
Monitor: HP W2207H (22") OR Samsung Syncmaster 226BW
Speakers: Logitech G51 (5.1)
Headset: Sennheiser PC-150 (Stereo)
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (USB)
Mouse: Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse (USB)
Mouse thingie: Steelpad Qck
Ç1750.
With current rate at which dollar is dropping, that will soon be 5000 dollar.
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Titan Pilot
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Posted - 2008.04.20 11:26:00 -
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Expression on your face when your 5K PC is useless because of lag = Priceless
p.s. Buy a laptop. Desktops are so 2007
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.04.20 11:30:00 -
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Well, if you insist on spending that much money on a PC, how about something built around one of these?
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sg3s
Caldari
O.W.N. Corp
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.20 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
If you want to spend it anyway, this is what a dutch computer site adviced for march for high-end game system.(note that in a month time things allready change).
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5
Cooler: Scythe Infinity SCINF-1000
Memory: OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC6400, CL4
GPU: Club3D Radeon HD 3870 X2 (1GB)
Sound: Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
HDD: 2 x Samsung Spinpoint F1 750GB
Dvd: Lite-On LH-20A1S (20x)
cardreader: Apacer Embedded Card Reader 15 in 1
Case: Antec Performance One P182
PSU: Zalman ZM600-HP (600W)
Monitor: HP W2207H (22") OR Samsung Syncmaster 226BW
Speakers: Logitech G51 (5.1)
Headset: Sennheiser PC-150 (Stereo)
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (USB)
Mouse: Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse (USB)
Mouse thingie: Steelpad Qck
€1750.
With current rate at which dollar is dropping, that will soon be 5000 dollar.
This setup sucks, I wouldn't reccomend anyone going for ati grafics when having an intel chipset / cpu
mine would be:
Top CPU (prolly one of the newer quadcores)
4gb of ddr3 ram in 2x 2 modules in dual channel
2x nvidea cards in sli, ddr4 ram on the cards 256mb at least but gpu speed and memory speed is more important here
creative soundcard w/e is best
mobo that supports all this (that means the cpu buss speed, ram and nvidea sli)
2x 10rpm raptors 74gb in raid 0
1x 500gb/1tb/whatever for seperate storage, not that the raptors are only for OS/programs, your documents should be on this disk
1x dvd drive/burner w/e something to install the OS with (preferably XP even if the gfx support dx10)
case that would cool al this
cooling:
non-standard fan for cpu, and I would advice the same for gfx cards too. heatsinks for ram modules if they don't have any, active northbridge cooler.
Always use the largest fans possible (less sound/air) or if you can afford it a good watercooling system
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:05:00 -
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Intel works fine with Ati/AMD.
Why a quadcore for gaming?
Allthough you are probably an nvidia fanboy, the 3870x2 is good GPU (a while ago ati/amd made a good one).
And dont use watercooling. Air cooling is just as quiet and you cant get leakages.
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sg3s
Caldari
O.W.N. Corp
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Intel works fine with Ati/AMD.
Why a quadcore for gaming?
Allthough you are probably an nvidia fanboy, the 3870x2 is good GPU (a while ago ati/amd made a good one).
And dont use watercooling. Air cooling is just as quiet and you cant get leakages.
I wouldn't reccomend intel/nvidia in use with ati/amd becouse it does have some problems in some cases, atleast more so than a intel with nvidia or ati with amd stup. This is becouse it's a 2 side 'fight' atm with ati/amd on one side and intel with nvidia on the other... It's compatibility issues which you might encounter... not saying you will encounter them.
And I would have a quadcore cpu for being able to use other applications on the background without too much trouble, processes/threads should be spread over the cores... It's not a bad idea to be ready for the future software anyhow so I don't see the problem. I realise it might not be too usefull with gaming but it's not like it has any disadvantages.
And I am not a nvidea fanboy, in fact I only ever owned 1 nvidia card, and I'm currently playing on a x1950xt from ati... I just like to get the best combinations available on the market... and at this time I would go with a intel/nvidia setup.
And watercooling is better, alot better if you invest your money in the right sort of watercooling system. and leaks... yeah that happens but last time I checked coolant is nonconductive fluid so it should not cause problems (unless you have a carpet or some stuff)... And if it is leaking it means someone didn't set it up properly.
I would say fasecooling but i felt like I would lose most of the people on these forums with that.
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The Djego
Minmatar
merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:28:00 -
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It is not about speed, it is mostly about a System that smothly run multiply OS(Win/Linux) and is stable like a server. You get something like this for about 800-1000 Ç including the Displays.
If I read your post right you are looking for a gaming machine, not for a working one. You will get someting like this very easy in the high price segment of most big PC Sellers, no need to ask here.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:32:00 -
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The PC I am building just now is:
Motherboard: EVGA S775 nForce 790i Ultra Triple SLI
CPU: Intel Quad Core Extreme QX6850 3.00GHz
Memory: Crucial 4GBKIT (2GBx2) DDR3
Disks: 5 x Samsung 1TB 7200RPM
Graphics: 2 x EVGA GeForce 9800GX2
Optical: Pioneer 5x BluRay Reader DVD+-R/RW
And of course a kick ass cooler. I haven't decided on that one yet. Normally I watercool. But I am considering using a phase change cooler, just to see how far I can push the overclocking.
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Mrmuttley
Amarr
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:34:00 -
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Watercooling is fine as long as you do it properly with good quality gear and don't mind adding ú200+ to your setup costs. I did it last year and it worked first time with no leaks.
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sg3s
Caldari
O.W.N. Corp
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
The PC I am building just now is:
Motherboard: EVGA S775 nForce 790i Ultra Triple SLI
CPU: Intel Quad Core Extreme QX6850 3.00GHz
Memory: Crucial 4GBKIT (2GBx2) DDR3
Disks: 5 x Samsung 1TB 7200RPM
Graphics: 2 x EVGA GeForce 9800GX2
Optical: Pioneer 5x BluRay Reader DVD+-R/RW
And of course a kick ass cooler. I haven't decided on that one yet. Normally I watercool. But I am considering using a phase change cooler, just to see how far I can push the overclocking.
I would swap out a few of those disk to 2x WD raptor disks for your OS... It is really worth it.
And fase change cooling is also highly reccomended if you plan on overclocking , just becouse it will always keep your cpu cool. Basicly you will be able to overclock until the cpu itself is just not stable enough anymore due to the speed.
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Mrmuttley
Amarr
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:57:00 -
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Phase change is fine but you head down the route of a very complex set up. Two phase change units (CPU and GPU ) and a watercooling loop for the chipset/ram and you've just added ú1000 for good gear and a whole load more hassles i.e. condensation and lots of extra power usage.
That being said you can then overclock the nuts off your PC  
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.20 13:11:00 -
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Quote:
I wouldn't reccomend intel/nvidia in use with ati/amd becouse it does have some problems in some cases, atleast more so than a intel with nvidia or ati with amd stup. This is becouse it's a 2 side 'fight' atm with ati/amd on one side and intel with nvidia on the other... It's compatibility issues which you might encounter... not saying you will encounter them.
AMD and intel might not be good friends, still their products are compatibel.
It has been tested many times, a good aircooling is just as good + quiet as watercooling and is much cheaper.
I never really understood why people buy ridiculous expensive computers, and then additionally OC it so much they need water or phase change cooling. With your new comp you can put everything on max allready, why OC it any further? Just OC it when you cant put games on max anymore.
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Dominique Vasilkovsky
HOW Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.20 15:00:00 -
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I just built a new system a few weeks ago:
E8500
4x2GB Corsair DDR2 800 4-4-4-12
XFX i780
3 x XFX 8800GTX XXX (630/2000)
150GB Raptor
Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W
Lian-Li PC-B25B
Dell 3007 WFP
Creative Gigaworks S750.
Vista 64bit
EVE is running quite nice at 2560x1600, 16xQ Gamma TranspSS AntiAlias, 16x Anistrophic Filtering and HDR. Even though EVE itself can't use 8GB RAM I use half of it for a RAMdrive holding a copy of the EVE installation.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.20 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
I never really understood why people buy ridiculous expensive computers, and then additionally OC it so much they need water or phase change cooling. With your new comp you can put everything on max allready, why OC it any further?
It is a hobby. Sometimes I overclock really cheap systems to see how much bang I can get for the lowest amount of cash.
Other times I get the best and see how far I can take it. Here money is no object, getting the ultimate performance is.
And of course it runs games nicely too.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.04.21 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: KISOGOKU on 21/04/2008 11:25:37
I lolled ,dont do it http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3166
Originally by: Banana Torres
The PC I am building just now is:
Motherboard: EVGA S775 nForce 790i Ultra Triple SLI
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.21 11:28:00 -
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They probably use the ZX spectrum with rubber keys to make life easier when they have "accidents".
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.21 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: KISOGOKU
Edited by: KISOGOKU on 21/04/2008 11:25:37
I lolled ,dont do it http://www.hardspell.com/english/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3166
"corruption on hard disk drives" - I would settle for that, as soon as I configured the hard disks as a raid array they disappeared from my system. Currently the CMOS is getting emptied, maybe the hard disks will have majically reappeared when I get home.
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Trojanman190
The Conflagration
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Posted - 2008.04.21 11:53:00 -
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If you want serious power and don't have 4 cores you fail. Multicore computing is absolutely the future and as of now, it's dirt cheap. Sure, the high end dual core systems have more power per core, but my computer doesn't ***** at me when I have two eve clients, itunes, vent, ts, eclipse, and wampserver running.
I was a jackass an cheaped out on my motherboard tho... I got an evga motherboard with one pci express slot for $75. I got it because I felt I didn't need SLI, and I don't. But there pretty much is no longer a such thing as a ultra high end non sli nforce motherboard, so I'm stuck with a well priced but fairly subpar board. Don't make that mistake =/
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.21 12:17:00 -
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Q6600 all the way tbh. Awesome processor.
I'm building a machine at present for a mate with hardware he's bought :
Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
Asus Striker II Extreme, NF790i, 3-way SLI, S 775, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 800/1160/1333/2000, ATX
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 SLACR, Kentsfield Core, Socket 775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache
1000W Corsair HX Series PSU ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply
8GB (4x2GB) CorsairTwinX XMS3, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, DHX
XFX 9800GX2 Exclusive BLACK Edition Dual GPU PCI-E 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI
Zalman CNPS9700-LED Super Aero Flower Cooler (775/AM2/754/939/940)
2x 500 GB Samsung HD501LJ Spinpoint T166
ASUS 2014L1T 20x DVD¦R, 8x DVD¦DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, x14 DVD-RAM, SATA, Lightscribe, Black OEM
Hardware set him back about 1600 GBP, and messing about with the processor volatgaes at present is bringing 3.4GHz on each core, stable with high end air cooling.
Can't see the point in paying double the price for a 3GHz processor that's not as stable when it's overclocked, has the same speed FSB and two less cores. Q6600 rules.
Still unsure whether to stick with XP64 or go for Vista64 TBH, that's the biggest descision.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente
The Blackguard Wolves
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.21 12:23:00 -
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I feel like posting my own setup:
E8400 @ 4ghz
Asus P5E-VM @ 470mhz
Gskill PC8000 @ 470mhz 5-5-5-15
ATI HD 3870 + HR-03GT + 120mm fan @ 20% OC
Seagate 7200.10 250gb 16mb cache Sata
Thermaltake lanparty lite
500W Enermax Liberty
260W peak power consumption.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente
The Blackguard Wolves
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.21 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Q6600 all the way tbh. Awesome processor.
I'm building a machine at present for a mate with hardware he's bought :
Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
Asus Striker II Extreme, NF790i, 3-way SLI, S 775, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 800/1160/1333/2000, ATX
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 SLACR, Kentsfield Core, Socket 775, 2.40 GHz 1066MHz 8MB Cache
1000W Corsair HX Series PSU ATX, EPS12V, PS/2, Modular Power Supply
8GB (4x2GB) CorsairTwinX XMS3, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, DHX
XFX 9800GX2 Exclusive BLACK Edition Dual GPU PCI-E 1GB DDR3 Dual DVI
Zalman CNPS9700-LED Super Aero Flower Cooler (775/AM2/754/939/940)
2x 500 GB Samsung HD501LJ Spinpoint T166
ASUS 2014L1T 20x DVD¦R, 8x DVD¦DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, x14 DVD-RAM, SATA, Lightscribe, Black OEM
Hardware set him back about 1600 GBP, and messing about with the processor volatgaes at present is bringing 3.4GHz on each core, stable with high end air cooling.
Can't see the point in paying double the price for a 3GHz processor that's not as stable when it's overclocked, has the same speed FSB and two less cores. Q6600 rules.
Still unsure whether to stick with XP64 or go for Vista64 TBH, that's the biggest descision.
Well XP64 is a lot less supported than vista 64.
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