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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.21 13:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
This thread is packed with no-balls idiots trolling on alts!
Anyone who doesn't get this, was clueless to begin with.
"BACON: Never be surprised again"
Vigilance is the player's responsibility!
Passing this responsibility to a third-party application is a clear violation of the EULA
Wake up CCP!
They probably know that people have been doing it for a long time previous to this and already living with the decision to not do anything about it.
Trinity graphix upgrade 3.0.eleventybillion is maybe more important?
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Skyr
Originally by: DanMck
bacon is cheating plan and simple
it's eve's wall hack
how can this be allowed ?
a macro ratter/miners wet dream 
It is not dream, it is already in use for a long time.
Few weeks ago I took a tour thru Drone regions and spotted few ratters on several occasions. You know how long they stayed in local?
About 2-3s after I jumped in. That's ALL OF THEM, in separate systems, different times.
I still saw their ravens on scanner so that tells me that they were using some software to auto log off as nobody is this vigilant.
He's right, I've seen many other complaints about this particular type behavior from macro ratters. Absolutely nothing new there. Those people are a lost cause and already break all of the rules.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.22 07:36:00 -
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You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. (EULA 7.A.2.)
The only problem with this line is that, when it comes down to it, it applies to Ventrilo and EVEmon as well. Both replace the need to use the game itself to gather information for personal use, and instead get it from a source outside-of-game. The reason these are okay, I'm guessing, is CCP has basically said "these do not appear to violate the TOS". Or maybe they have never even said that much... not really sure.
Anyway, I would have thought CCP would come right out and ban BACON. But they didn't... and I have my suspicions as to why. There may be a very specific reason that they do not think this functionality is a bad thing. Who knows? Maybe they already have something like it in the works...
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.22 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ridley Tree
How long until a Macro shows up via parsing the log-file so as to warp and jump between systems, rat and hell warp off to a safe and cloak based on things the log file can tell you? 100% afk income in a 100% safe manner than needs no player input whatsoever. If the log-file is going to be able to tell us when someone enters the system it should certainly allow for all the above.
I'm not sure if they use the logfile, but what you described has already existed for years. Actually, real macros probably make full use of the logfiles, and raw server data, and anything else you can possibly imagine. I mean, come on... wake up?
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Haleuth
The ccp devs should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this.
You say that as if you (or anyone else for that matter) haven't given an ounce of thought to why CCP hasn't disallowed it.
Or... have you?
Have you considered that there might be a logical reason for that?
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: KapnKaboom
And while you are at it can you please, for the love of God, get rid of local also? Thanks.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dictum Factum
I had no personal problem with the existance of this program until the message today from CCP. I find it a bit disturbing that programs like this were just fine with CCP until the "masses" found out about them. That, to me, is worse than the programs themselves.
As long as you are not surprised that they knew. It's like some people just don't want to give CCP any credit at all.
Perhaps they were already working on a way to stop this type of program and didn't feel the need to discuss it openly?
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Wet Ferret on 22/04/2008 23:11:59
Originally by: Maliber
i was just voicing my opinion. Which is ok on any forum. Ccp should just fix logserver so it no longer passes these messages and bacon is broke. Problem solved. Its just that i think this program breaks a part of eve I like... Roaming...
I also encourage ppl to find security holes in bacon so i can post code in local and crash/freeze bacon using ppl and gank em while they are ratting. Maybe inject some kind of malicous code or something. As local is for chat only and the logserver wont be affected i would technicaly not break any eula or tos rules.....
I'm sure it's that simple and they've just never thought about that at all. Genius.
Also: two wrongs... etc
Edit- I apologize for responding to non-constructive posts with more non-constructive posts, and hereby dismiss myself from this thread
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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